New Lens From Sony

hmmm looks good.

i wonder how long they're remain as "samples". The A900 "samples" kept us yearning for a long time didnt it?

dang.. just bring them to the market!
 
Yes Sony has some new lens.

(1)Super Telephoto Lens
 (2)DT 50mm F1.8
Why on earth a DT ? An inexpensive 50 is a fine thing to have in the lineup for both FF and APS-C users; not an ideal FL for APS-C where it's neither "normal" nor "portrait" ... so why limit it to APS-C ?
 (3)DT 30mm F2.8 Macro
Not sure what they're thinking here; they have 50mm macro and 28/2.8 which is already too slow for most people wanting a prime over a zoom.
 (4)DT 18-55mm F3.5-5.6
Reasonable since they needed to have a more competitive kit lens and it pairs up with 55-200 nicely.
 (6)28-75mm F2.8
Tamron rebadge ? If so, I'm surprised to see it in a lineup where they're trying to sell the CZ24-70. The KM was a nice lens (I still own mine - actually, my second copy because after I sold my first, I missed it :)
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Tamron rebadge ? If so, I'm surprised to see it in a lineup where
they're trying to sell the CZ24-70. The KM was a nice lens (I still
own mine - actually, my second copy because after I sold my first, I
missed it :)
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Probably a cheap alternative to the CZ. The Tamron is no slouch, really, and it may be the case that Tamron sells more 28-75s for the Alpha mount than Sony with their CZ 24-70. Perhaps they just want in on the action. :)
 
It's about time they replaced the kit lens. But the rest leaves me asking what is Sony thinking...

Rebadging the 28-75 isn't a bad idea, a more affordable first-party normal zoom for FF users. But then again, nothing new and exciting.

Again, DT 50/1.8, why why why. Is this the first 50/1.8 SLR prime in history that is not FF? Sony could've at least follow Nikon with a 35/1.8 DT.

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Yes Sony has some new lens.

(1)Super Telephoto Lens
 (2)DT 50mm F1.8
Why on earth a DT ? An inexpensive 50 is a fine thing to have in the
lineup for both FF and APS-C users; not an ideal FL for APS-C where
it's neither "normal" nor "portrait" ... so why limit it to APS-C ?
I get this. The Sony 50 1.4 isn't exactly expensive anymore - the price has come way down. If you want an a900, which is a lot of money, you simply spend a bit more on your 50. Considering the fact that you've already spent a lot more on making sure that your other glass and your PC are up to the job, cutting costs for the benifit of APS-C users is fine by me.
 (3)DT 30mm F2.8 Macro
Not sure what they're thinking here; they have 50mm macro and 28/2.8
which is already too slow for most people wanting a prime over a zoom.
Yeah - this one's odd... Still, if it's good it'll win fans - it's a 50 macro :) Any news on reproduction? 1:1? 1:2? 2:1? :E
 (4)DT 18-55mm F3.5-5.6
Reasonable since they needed to have a more competitive kit lens and
it pairs up with 55-200 nicely.
Good stuff.
 (6)28-75mm F2.8
Tamron rebadge ? If so, I'm surprised to see it in a lineup where
they're trying to sell the CZ24-70. The KM was a nice lens (I still
own mine - actually, my second copy because after I sold my first, I
missed it :)
Wait - maybe it's not a Tamron rebadge. Even if it is the KM version went down very well - good price, light-weight, good optics, fully compatible (Lens ID etc). A slightly tweaked Sony version is the same and would even serve as a replacement for a 24-105/4 SSM for some - especially if the price is right.

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It's about time they replaced the kit lens. But the rest leaves me
asking what is Sony thinking...

Rebadging the 28-75 isn't a bad idea, a more affordable first-party
normal zoom for FF users. But then again, nothing new and exciting.

Again, DT 50/1.8, why why why. Is this the first 50/1.8 SLR prime in
history that is not FF? Sony could've at least follow Nikon with a
35/1.8 DT.
Why? Why is a 50mm equivalent focal length more worthy than a 75mm equivalent focal length? Personally I loved using a 50 as a short telephoto on my Minolta 7D - now I've got an a900 I hardly put my 50 on anymore, my Zeiss is sharper and I find the focal length really dull. And releasing a 30 1.8 and a 30 2.8 on the same day - does that REALLY sound like a great idea to you? Even if one is a macro?
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Does this mean an A200/300/350 replacement is imminent

????
 
I think you're missing the point. People will be whining because of the 50/1.8 is not FF, they don't care if it becomes a short tele on APS-C. The matter is Sony needs a cheaper fast normal prime for APS-C users.

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Yes it does, but how long do you want to wait? It will be this Summer. The new lens appears to be a sample but not released at PMA.
Does this mean an A200/300/350 replacement is imminent

????

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 (2)DT 50mm F1.8
Why on earth a DT ? An inexpensive 50 is a fine thing to have in the
lineup for both FF and APS-C users; not an ideal FL for APS-C where
it's neither "normal" nor "portrait" ... so why limit it to APS-C ?
I get this. The Sony 50 1.4 isn't exactly expensive anymore - the
price has come way down. If you want an a900, which is a lot of
money, you simply spend a bit more on your 50. Considering the fact
that you've already spent a lot more on making sure that your other
glass and your PC are up to the job, cutting costs for the benifit of
APS-C users is fine by me.
My final thoughts there ... the FF user probably doesn't mind spending a bit more on the 50/1.4 to get the brighter VF image & bayonet shade ... but a new 50/1.8 could be an easy match for the 50/1.4 and the 50/1.4 is awfully soft wide open, so the slightly brighter VF image and the bayonet shade (and maybe use of 55mm filters that you might already have) are the only reasons to go for the more expensive lens.

My bigger objection, though, is if you're going to make it DT, why not make it a 60 or 70mm lens ? (Or gives us that 35/1.8 :)
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I think you're missing the point. People will be whining because of
the 50/1.8 is not FF, they don't care if it becomes a short tele on
APS-C. The matter is Sony needs a cheaper fast normal prime for APS-C
users.
Right. Make it FF or make an APS-C lens that people really want. A 35/1.8, a 60 or 70/1.8 (or f/2) ... people use 50mm on APS-C because there are no other options. Lots of people are intrigued by Sigmas 70/2.8 but it's a lousy low light portrait option. As it stands, it's a lousy choice that people will buy because there's nothing else (and apparently Sony mistakenly thinks that all the recommendations to run out and buy a used 50/1.7 on eBay for low light is because it's somehow ideal for the job).

Of course, these are just opinions; I'm sure 50mm works great for some people on APS-C and they'd love a 75mm lens on FF :)
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Not really,

They needed a new kit lens back when the A350 was launched.

What needs to be seen is what this lens is. I suspect it will have an errie spec similarity to a nikon or canon kit lens or some other existing kit lens we have seen in the past.

I'm disappointed, Sony really needed a new kit lens. But it should match the system. So a 16-something, and if that something was 70mm great, but even a 16-60 would have been good. Something that lines up with the system, not sounds like everyone else.

I can't believe this is an in-house effort if it doesn't start at 16mm.

Still, lets just hope it can resolve 14-20MP on APS well enough, or at least 14-16 to keep it going for a little bit. The 18-70 was a good lens till the A350 came.
 
From what I could find (found a price list), not sure how legit but looks pretty real, the 2.8/30DT Macro is SSM, 185 Euro

the 18-50DT is 167 Euro, so cheaper than the current 18-70.

It doesn't list the others.

This is all together strange. Since this list from the sony site where the OP found the stuff list those lenses. From other posters who got info in the inventory computers there was the 1.8/50DT, 10-24DT and a 70-300 (not G). The later 2 aren't shown in either list.

So there could be a bunch of lenses in the wood work here.
 
 (2)DT 50mm F1.8
Why on earth a DT ? An inexpensive 50 is a fine thing to have in the
lineup for both FF and APS-C users; not an ideal FL for APS-C where
it's neither "normal" nor "portrait" ... so why limit it to APS-C ?
I get this. The Sony 50 1.4 isn't exactly expensive anymore - the
price has come way down. If you want an a900, which is a lot of
money, you simply spend a bit more on your 50. Considering the fact
that you've already spent a lot more on making sure that your other
glass and your PC are up to the job, cutting costs for the benifit of
APS-C users is fine by me.
My final thoughts there ... the FF user probably doesn't mind
spending a bit more on the 50/1.4 to get the brighter VF image &
bayonet shade ... but a new 50/1.8 could be an easy match for the
50/1.4 and the 50/1.4 is awfully soft wide open, so the slightly
brighter VF image and the bayonet shade (and maybe use of 55mm
filters that you might already have) are the only reasons to go for
the more expensive lens.

My bigger objection, though, is if you're going to make it DT, why
not make it a 60 or 70mm lens ? (Or gives us that 35/1.8 :)
50's standard. They're cheap to produce and make good. 60/70mm? It's a bit oddball - not Sony's style - especially not with the 85 already kicking around. The 35/1.8 is something else - again, why should a normal take precedence over a portrait prime? I'm not alone in hating 50mm focal lengths - I just find them really dull. When I did all primes I went from 35mm straight to 85mm then 200mm - 50 didn't get a look in. A DT 50 makes perfect sense, assuming there's decent savings to be made from dropping the FF design.

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I think you're missing the point. People will be whining because of
the 50/1.8 is not FF, they don't care if it becomes a short tele on
APS-C. The matter is Sony needs a cheaper fast normal prime for APS-C
users.
Nope - not missing the point at all. People shouldn't whine (very much) because the 50 1.8 isn't FF - there's already a 50 1.4 that is FF and which isn't very much if you're looking to put down the cash for an a900, FF zooms, memory cards, a PC to deal with the files..... So FF users lose out to the tune of $100 or so.

If by making a900 users spend this extra $100 you can make APS-C users (90% of the people? 95%?) save a decent amount of money by making the 50 1.8 DT only, NOW who's missing the point?

As to why isn't it 30mm? Because it's 50mm. Why isn't it a normal? Because it's a portrait prime instead. 2 different lenses and I don't agree that a normal takes precedence over a portrait prime - they're simply differing opinions. You seen the prices of 50 1.7s on ebay recently?

Releasing a DT 35/2 wouldn't have made the situation any better - FF users would still lack a wide-angle and APS-C users would wonder where their portrait prime had gone. As it is APS-C users have their portrait-prime but no normal, FF users still lack their F2 35 & 85.

It's a good move. More lenses are still to come - in fact using your argument we could say 'why isn't it a 400mm f4.5? People still lack that!' But the lenses are coming out bit by bit, and the 30 2.8 macro should go some way to soothing your pain at the lack of a 30 f2.
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I think we have just gone someplace weird and confusing.

The run down.

1) Super-Telephoto: Clearly near production by that. It's not the lens previously shown. I'm thinking it's a 4.5/400G SSM or similar. And WTF it's silver, didn't they learn. But oh, they added an orange ring (bangs head), and why not just tell folks what it is so people don't run.

2) 2.8/30 Macro: I like it on paper. On price sheet I found said it was SSM, this looks to go against that. What concerns me is it and the 1.8/50 both look to have the dumb built in hood like the 1.7/50, and maybe 49mm threads. That will be a major blow.

3) 1.8/50 also goofy looking, what is going on. And why is it still big. If it's not going to be FF, make it smaller.

4) 18-55, dunno, glad to see a new kit lens. I suspect it's a rebage of someone elses old kit lens, or very similar. I wanted to see something more proper like pentax has. Does have a bit more effort at a focus ring.

5) 55-200, wtf? The just re-styled the one they launched last year?

6) 2.8/28-75, huh, where was this at the launch of the Sony system. But at the same time, it's not a Tamron/KM rebadge based on the window and such, this is a new lens. Where did this come from.

Basicaly, what is up with all this. A new look going on? Rebadges of 1 year old lenses? Completely new 2.8/28-75? Loss of cohearent filter sizes. All I can think is Sony is trying to give the kit lenses a unified look here, which is fine. But these all look funny and honestly look Olympus like. What is with the new look? So I guess with get KM throwback now, the silver rings return.

Sony has just turned the look of things into a mess, so much for that clean slate. New lenses are nice, but where is the 4/24-105, the 10-24, the 70-300
 
What a very sad and anticlimactic day.

DT 50 F/1.8, uhhh. Why? 50mm on APS-C Makes for a nice portrait, but on FF, can also be used as a standard normal lens. Whatever, already got me a 50mm F/1.4.

DT 30mm F/2.8 MACRO? Huh? You really want to be 1" away from your subject? 50mm F/2.8 macro wasn't good enough?
DT 18-55, kit replacement?
DT 55-200mm? You already has one sony...
28-75mm? Tamron rebadge most likely.

So, no high end or even nice lenses?

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