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I'm looking for a program that does Minolta -> sRGB color space conversion in batch.

When i come home, after a party shoot, i'm, let's say, not the most focused person around (check out my site and you'll understand) but i feel the urge to update the site before i go to sleep.

Everything else (jpeg optimization, galleries generated, uploading) is done in batch and really fast.
I've tried DIVU, but its sooooo slow :(

And that's why i need a program that does the batch thingy fast and reliable, so i can go to sleep with a smile on my face, knowing that the photo's are okay and upped.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Greetz,
Doc Gonzo
http://www.docgonzo.com
 
I'm assuming that you don't do each photo individually in DIVU. If you do that, you can select all your photos and then click Save an Image and even though it says "an" image, it will chug through all of them.

I think Photoshop 7.0 now saves EXIF information, and there are many ways to batch process there, but I've been chicken to try it rather than DIVU. You might make a few copies of original files, open in PS7 if you have it, and try a batch process there.

PS Elements (about $50) also has the PS7.0 File / Automate / Batch choice.

Be sure to post what your findings are. Good luck. - Jean
Doc Gonzo said:
I'm looking for a program that does Minolta -> sRGB color space
conversion in batch.

When i come home, after a party shoot, i'm, let's say, not the most
focused person around (check out my site and you'll understand) but
i feel the urge to update the site before i go to sleep.
Everything else (jpeg optimization, galleries generated, uploading)
is done in batch and really fast.
I've tried DIVU, but its sooooo slow :(

And that's why i need a program that does the batch thingy fast and
reliable, so i can go to sleep with a smile on my face, knowing
that the photo's are okay and upped.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Greetz,
Doc Gonzo
http://www.docgonzo.com
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I haven't tried batch processing in Photoshop 7.0, but I can confirm that the software does save EXIF data as long as the file format accommodates it. Though I can't confirm this, I've heard that using "Save for Web" deletes EXIF info.

--Larry
Jean Ricket said:
I think Photoshop 7.0 now saves EXIF information, and there are
many ways to batch process there, but I've been chicken to try it
rather than DIVU. You might make a few copies of original files,
open in PS7 if you have it, and try a batch process there.
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ThumbsPlus5.0 will do batch color profile conversion.

"View Window - Image ~ Color Profile... Ctrl+Shift+C

Main Window - Image ~ Batch Process - Batch Steps - Add ~ Image ~ Color Profile..."

"Use this function to set, convert or remove the color profile information for the currently opened image file.

Current color profile. The current color profile within the image, if one exists. Image file types that support color profile storage are: TIFF, JPEG, and PiNG.
Action

Set color profile. Select this option to set the color profile information in the image.

Convert to profile. Select this option to convert an existing image color profile to another profile.

Remove profile. Select this option to remove the current color profile from the image.

Preview. Check this option to have ThumbsPlus automatically preview any changes to the images color profile prior to clicking the [OK] button.
New color profile. Select a color profile to be added or converted to above."

http://www.cerious.com/ Demo available

This software does too many things to mention including quickprocess which will rotate or flip images with no recompression. Keeps EXIF info too.
 
R Poulin said:
ThumbsPlus5.0 will do batch color profile conversion.

"View Window - Image ~ Color Profile... Ctrl+Shift+C
Main Window - Image ~ Batch Process - Batch Steps - Add ~ Image ~
Color Profile..."
"Use this function to set, convert or remove the color profile
information for the currently opened image file.
Current color profile. The current color profile within the image,
if one exists. Image file types that support color profile storage
are: TIFF, JPEG, and PiNG.
Action
Set color profile. Select this option to set the color profile
information in the image.
Convert to profile. Select this option to convert an existing image
color profile to another profile.
Remove profile. Select this option to remove the current color
profile from the image.
Preview. Check this option to have ThumbsPlus automatically preview
any changes to the images color profile prior to clicking the [OK]
button.
New color profile. Select a color profile to be added or converted
to above."

http://www.cerious.com/ Demo available

This software does too many things to mention including
quickprocess which will rotate or flip images with no
recompression. Keeps EXIF info too.
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Hmmmmmmmm... I just tried the batch process, convert to sRGB colorspace. it worked fine and was fairly fast, but when I compared the output to originals, images processed with DIVU2 with original profiles and with Bryan's fixed profiles, the output from thumbs plus processing looked identical to the original pics, and had no resemblance to the output from DIVU. Did I do something wrong? Has anyone else tried this? I love Thumbs Plus and I have version 5.01 but I am still learning about it and Lord knows, it has many capabilities I haven't even tried yet.

Chuck

--
My on line albums
http://www.hpphoto.com/home/viewownerdir.asp?owner=chuckstr89134

and

http://www.pbase.com/chuckstr89134
 
Here is a stab at what may be happening (I'm confused by this too).

Pictures straight from the S404 have no profile embedded for software (such as Thumbs Plus) to know what to "convert from". In the absence of an embedded profile, the software sets the "current" profile to sRGB by default. Conversion of the image data won't work because the software doesn't know what it is converting from (it guessed wrong). For cameras that produce images in sRGB & don't have a profile embedded, this works fine. If the software had a way to set the "current" profile to Minolta s404, you could then do the conversion to sRGB accurately. I believe that this is what DIVU2 does automatically.

I think programs like ProDimage embed a generic "Dimage" profile into the image. However, when I convert these images to sRGB, the colors improve over the original (on monitor) but still don't resemble the DIVU2 converted originals. I assume this is simply due to differences in the ProDimage profile and the s404 profile used by DIVU2 (which also has a tone curve). ProDimage says that you can embed any profile but I don't think you can directly use the file called "DiMage S404_iprof.icc" - I'm not sure why (it's an .icc file where ProDimage uses an .icm file). If you could, the converted file should look just like the DIVU converted file (I think).

It's taken me a while to get to the point where I think I understand this. If anyone sees that I'm off base in how this works, please correct me or clarify things. Thanks.

-JR
chuckstr89134 said:
Hmmmmmmmm... I just tried the batch process, convert to sRGB
colorspace. it worked fine and was fairly fast, but when I
compared the output to originals, images processed with DIVU2 with
original profiles and with Bryan's fixed profiles, the output from
thumbs plus processing looked identical to the original pics, and
had no resemblance to the output from DIVU. Did I do something
wrong? Has anyone else tried this? I love Thumbs Plus and I have
version 5.01 but I am still learning about it and Lord knows, it
has many capabilities I haven't even tried yet.

Chuck
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Sounds reasonable.

Do you possibly need to re-set monitor viewing options--as in PS7, where you have choices to convert to working space (sRGB), convert to monitor profile, and discard embedded info/don't color manage. You can check in PS7 under View / Proof Setup. - Jean
Jeff Royal said:
Pictures straight from the S404 have no profile embedded for
software (such as Thumbs Plus) to know what to "convert from". In
the absence of an embedded profile, the software sets the "current"
profile to sRGB by default. Conversion of the image data won't
work because the software doesn't know what it is converting from
(it guessed wrong). For cameras that produce images in sRGB &
don't have a profile embedded, this works fine. If the software
had a way to set the "current" profile to Minolta s404, you could
then do the conversion to sRGB accurately. I believe that this is
what DIVU2 does automatically.

I think programs like ProDimage embed a generic "Dimage" profile
into the image. However, when I convert these images to sRGB, the
colors improve over the original (on monitor) but still don't
resemble the DIVU2 converted originals. I assume this is simply
due to differences in the ProDimage profile and the s404 profile
used by DIVU2 (which also has a tone curve). ProDimage says that
you can embed any profile but I don't think you can directly use
the file called "DiMage S404_iprof.icc" - I'm not sure why (it's an
.icc file where ProDimage uses an .icm file). If you could, the
converted file should look just like the DIVU converted file (I
think).

It's taken me a while to get to the point where I think I
understand this. If anyone sees that I'm off base in how this
works, please correct me or clarify things. Thanks.

-JR
Jeff Royal said:
Hmmmmmmmm... I just tried the batch process, convert to sRGB
colorspace. it worked fine and was fairly fast, but when I
compared the output to originals, images processed with DIVU2 with
original profiles and with Bryan's fixed profiles, the output from
thumbs plus processing looked identical to the original pics, and
had no resemblance to the output from DIVU. Did I do something
wrong? Has anyone else tried this? I love Thumbs Plus and I have
version 5.01 but I am still learning about it and Lord knows, it
has many capabilities I haven't even tried yet.

Chuck
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If you haven't already seen my other thread, I have a program called SharpRaw that can do it. Try it out at http://www.logicaldesigns.com

Duane
Doc Gonzo said:
I'm looking for a program that does Minolta -> sRGB color space
conversion in batch.

When i come home, after a party shoot, i'm, let's say, not the most
focused person around (check out my site and you'll understand) but
i feel the urge to update the site before i go to sleep.
Everything else (jpeg optimization, galleries generated, uploading)
is done in batch and really fast.
I've tried DIVU, but its sooooo slow :(

And that's why i need a program that does the batch thingy fast and
reliable, so i can go to sleep with a smile on my face, knowing
that the photo's are okay and upped.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Greetz,
Doc Gonzo
http://www.docgonzo.com
Click to expand...
 
Jeff Royal said:
Here is a stab at what may be happening (I'm confused by this too).

Pictures straight from the S404 have no profile embedded for
software (such as Thumbs Plus) to know what to "convert from". In
the absence of an embedded profile, the software sets the "current"
profile to sRGB by default. Conversion of the image data won't
work because the software doesn't know what it is converting from
(it guessed wrong). For cameras that produce images in sRGB &
don't have a profile embedded, this works fine. If the software
had a way to set the "current" profile to Minolta s404, you could
then do the conversion to sRGB accurately. I believe that this is
what DIVU2 does automatically.

I think programs like ProDimage embed a generic "Dimage" profile
into the image. However, when I convert these images to sRGB, the
colors improve over the original (on monitor) but still don't
resemble the DIVU2 converted originals. I assume this is simply
due to differences in the ProDimage profile and the s404 profile
used by DIVU2 (which also has a tone curve). ProDimage says that
you can embed any profile but I don't think you can directly use
the file called "DiMage S404_iprof.icc" - I'm not sure why (it's an
.icc file where ProDimage uses an .icm file). If you could, the
converted file should look just like the DIVU converted file (I
think).

It's taken me a while to get to the point where I think I
understand this. If anyone sees that I'm off base in how this
works, please correct me or clarify things. Thanks.

-JR
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Jeff - you may be right. Until I can see a simple path/workflow that gives the same results as DIVU2 in a considerablely shorter period of time, I think I will stick with DIVU. It's not that slow and I am usually doing a hundred or so pics at a time. I can always get a drink or something if it takes too long.

Thanks

Chuck

--
My on line albums
http://www.hpphoto.com/home/viewownerdir.asp?owner=chuckstr89134

and

http://www.pbase.com/chuckstr89134
 
Freeware program that does just what you're after and in now time flat.

http://clientes.netvisao.pt/mapril/prodimage/
Doc Gonzo said:
I'm looking for a program that does Minolta -> sRGB color space
conversion in batch.

When i come home, after a party shoot, i'm, let's say, not the most
focused person around (check out my site and you'll understand) but
i feel the urge to update the site before i go to sleep.
Everything else (jpeg optimization, galleries generated, uploading)
is done in batch and really fast.
I've tried DIVU, but its sooooo slow :(

And that's why i need a program that does the batch thingy fast and
reliable, so i can go to sleep with a smile on my face, knowing
that the photo's are okay and upped.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Greetz,
Doc Gonzo
http://www.docgonzo.com
Click to expand...
 
Marc Ward said:
Check out DCE AutoEnhance at http://www.mediachance.com/
It will automatically convert the colorspace, and a bunch of other
nice stuff. Also fast. At least on my AMD 200+ with 512 megs of RAM.

I have been using it more and more. I am very impressed.

Marc Ward
Milwaukee, WI
Happy Dimage 7i Owner
http://www.pbase.com/mward
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Thnaks Marc.

I got the trial version and ran a few quick tests at work just using the defaults. This morning I ran some more extensive tests on it and I am very impressed with it. I ran it on various subjects, indoors and outdoors, flash and no flash, good and bad pics and it did a good job. You can only process 5 pics at a time with the trial version so it took a litle while. I enabled the enhancing and noise reduction sections also but left all settings at the defaults. It will also resize in batch mode. The results were very good. Colors looked right when compared to output from DIVU2 and level adjustments, enhancing and noise reduction (all done in one process) looked better than what I had been working on for the last week. I have been working on a couple of my Paris shots that I want to put on the web but the originals were not that good and I had been using PS7 and neat image to correct levels and denoise. The run through Autoenhance was better that what I had been able to get. The only thing I noticed was that the Autoenhance output had a little more noise in it that the final out of neat image but the picture actually looked better to my eye. I think I am going to add this one to the growing want list. Lord knows how long it will take to get familiar with all it can do, it has more settings than Carter has Little Liver Pills!

Thanks again

Chuck

--
My on line albums
http://www.hpphoto.com/home/viewownerdir.asp?owner=chuckstr89134

and

http://www.pbase.com/chuckstr89134
 
I use the Tambaware Colorfix, it's fast, easy and very good.

http://www.tawbaware.com/colorfix.htm

I hope that it's helps.

Gretings
Doc Gonzo said:
I'm looking for a program that does Minolta -> sRGB color space
conversion in batch.

When i come home, after a party shoot, i'm, let's say, not the most
focused person around (check out my site and you'll understand) but
i feel the urge to update the site before i go to sleep.
Everything else (jpeg optimization, galleries generated, uploading)
is done in batch and really fast.
I've tried DIVU, but its sooooo slow :(

And that's why i need a program that does the batch thingy fast and
reliable, so i can go to sleep with a smile on my face, knowing
that the photo's are okay and upped.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Greetz,
Doc Gonzo
http://www.docgonzo.com
Click to expand...
 
George Eliott said:
Freeware program that does just what you're after and in now time
flat.
Click to expand...
Very true and that's the one I use. You'd have to do a second step in an ICC aware software though to save them in sRGB otherwise the output of ProDimage is the same as straight out of the camera for non ICC aware software, like a web browser.
 
I second the motion for Colorfix. I have used it on about 1500 photos and have found it to be very good.

Bob Sheldon
Fernando Armada said:
http://www.tawbaware.com/colorfix.htm

I hope that it's helps.

Gretings
Doc Gonzo said:
I'm looking for a program that does Minolta -> sRGB color space
conversion in batch.

When i come home, after a party shoot, i'm, let's say, not the most
focused person around (check out my site and you'll understand) but
i feel the urge to update the site before i go to sleep.
Everything else (jpeg optimization, galleries generated, uploading)
is done in batch and really fast.
I've tried DIVU, but its sooooo slow :(

And that's why i need a program that does the batch thingy fast and
reliable, so i can go to sleep with a smile on my face, knowing
that the photo's are okay and upped.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Greetz,
Doc Gonzo
http://www.docgonzo.com
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--
Bob Sheldon
 
Doc Gonzo said:
I'm looking for a program that does Minolta -> sRGB color space
conversion in batch.

When i come home, after a party shoot, i'm, let's say, not the most
focused person around (check out my site and you'll understand) but
i feel the urge to update the site before i go to sleep.
Everything else (jpeg optimization, galleries generated, uploading)
is done in batch and really fast.
I've tried DIVU, but its sooooo slow :(

And that's why i need a program that does the batch thingy fast and
reliable, so i can go to sleep with a smile on my face, knowing
that the photo's are okay and upped.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
--
Greetz,
Doc Gonzo
http://www.docgonzo.c
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I hope you don't mind an OTT comment.

I'm interested (and a little surprised) that you chose to go with a D7i instead of an E20.
Perhaps you wouldn't mind sharing with us the reasons for your choice.
Regards,
--
DaveMart
 
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