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That's exactly what I do with ACR and ACDSEE when using editing.
The nice advantage of LR is you can import directly as DNG files correct?

I am just a young/ old 33 yr old who used photoshop to adjust renderings etc. for such an extended time that the program is second nature to me.

Maybe I will give LR a go down the road, but a 200.00 price tag is a lot better than 300 IMHO. You are paying because its Adobe, period.
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-Anthony
 
and take 1000 images, you are saying that processing them in LR would be quicker than in PS?
How?
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-Anthony
 
Cataloging...I wind up with multiple copies of files in every folder I create, then if I have to move something LR can't find them. At times more trouble than it's worth....

Part of this may be my using the Mac after so many years of windows but it just doesn't seem as intuitive as it should. So many love it, I have books and got the Luminous Landscape tutorials and still have problems...

Hoping it will just click...

Bill

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Bill Wallace
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After trying Aperture about a year ago, I left LR and migrated all of my pics to Aperture. Aperture just seems to "fit" me better. Right now, I have over 24,000 in Aperture and it runs just fine on my ancient iMac G5 1.8 GHz. I especially like the integration with the rest of Mac OS X. I don't think that I could go back to LR for that reason alone.

Dwayne
 
Problem you do. It's just not very intuitive, especially the storage system.

I went to a camera club meeting a few nights ago, and a local pro gave a very
informative session on LR. He helped a good bit. Turns out he had to buy and
study three differnet books on the thing before he was able to use it.

I thought it was me, but I'm glad to know others feel the same way.

BJM
 
Jolie,

Pardon me if you alreay know this, but I guess its one of the good things, that your changes are just data (virtual files) not another 4MB file. When you need to save it you just export to the size/file type you want and its non destructive. I like that you can create virtual copies and toy around with different settings/crops etc. and trash/change what you dont like.
You get used to it. Its just like one extra step. Saves storage space.
JolieO said:
...hate other parts. I like the develop part and batch editing but
hate the way you have to deal with files. I was so used to PSE's
organizer/editor (simple) that this just throws me for a loop and I
can't wrap my head around it yet (only using it for a week). The one
thing that really drives me nuts is that I can't just save a file.
Why do you have to go through exporting to save a file as a .jpg and
have it just appear with your other files of the same image? If
someone knows something I don't would appreciate any advice.
Jolene
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I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn express last night.

http://wisertime.zenfolio.com
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Took some trial and error to figure out to choose where I want my photos stored, how I want them named and such. I don't like the default "dated" folders. I like to organize by subject. Once you get the hang of it and learn shortcuts it saves lots of time. I watched some youtube tutorials that really helped.

One thing I have trouble with is the local adjustments. It sometimes lags and I have 3 GB memory and I have to correct. But when I try to touch up fleshtones and reduce exposure I get grey shades sometimes..maybe just bad blown highlights? or maybe I am doing something wrong.
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I'm not a professional, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn express last night.

http://wisertime.zenfolio.com
http://www.flickr.com/photos/21868346@N00/
 
I had the same feelings when using LR1 It drove me crazy when I could not find save or save as. I did read several support books looking for this. One and I donot remember which one explain about the use of export. this really save me time and space when working on groups of files.

I think LR2 is much better and I always upgrade to the newes verson as soon as it comes out..

There was a series of internet video showing the wsy to use lightroom. I did watch them after I had read several books. They really help, but I could not find them today. They were for 1 so they may not be around today.

I will agree that the learning curve is steep. Now I develop from Raw with lightroom, batch sort and process, then export. the shorts that need more processing I them go to PS
Overall processing is shorter because not all need the detail process of PS
both have their strengths.
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frick100
 
It was a challenge finding a good folder structure. I ended up setting up 12 folders for the year by month and within that are identifying folders. It's really just a matter of finding something that works for you and actually sticking with it. I came from a studio where everything had coded job numbers so projects were all based on that and it just didn't work for me on my own.
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Beth
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Bill Wallace said:
Cataloging...I wind up with multiple copies of files in every folder
I create, then if I have to move something LR can't find them. At
times more trouble than it's worth....
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I actually like the catalog. If you keep the mindset that all organizing and moving should be done within Lightroom, there won't be any problems. As soon as you start moving files outside of Lightroom, well, there's no way for it to know you've done that. It would be nice to have a search feature within LR, but that's just a workaround to a solution that already exists.
Bill Wallace said:
Part of this may be my using the Mac after so many years of windows
but it just doesn't seem as intuitive as it should. So many love it,
I have books and got the Luminous Landscape tutorials and still have
problems...

Hoping it will just click...

Bill

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Bill Wallace
dpreview & pbase supporter
http://www.pbase.com/papa51
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Tim
'I haven't been everywhere, but it's on my list.'
E3/E410/7-14/12-60/50-200/25/EC-14
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Perfect! I hadn't thought of Utube and did not know of the Lightroomkillertips, I have just looked at both and learnt loads ... that's kick started by learning curve again. (perhaps I should do the same with Vista...) Thanks for the pointers....

Jerry
 
Theresa K said:
Well, if you use ACR, you can adjust the first shot, then set those
as your 'default settings'. Then, all of your other shots are set
the same..
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You're correct. The challenge is always getting both camera brands to run through LR to have the same look with the end result ... especially when working in extreme lighting conditions (low light indoor or snow outdoor).

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Alan

'It's not enough that I succeed -- others must fail.' - Genghis Khan
 
CadGuru said:
and take 1000 images, you are saying that processing them in LR would
be quicker than in PS?
How?
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-Anthony
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While I've done batch editing in PS (ie. Adobe's macros essentially) and just walked away to come back to the finished product, I still like to tweak individual photos to what works best for that photo. LR allows me to do that much quicker than PS (CS3 in my case). Quickly running through and rating them, filtering for top photos, flagging for b/w conversions, quickly tweaking for exposure, and fast cropping for target print ratios ... it has worked well for me. In fact, it has forced me to get it right behind the camera so I can spend more time in LR and less in PS.

The only time I go into PS now is for more graphic work (bracket HDR, stictching photos, or true graphic work). Or, I go into PS when I've truly messed up a shot and PS will allow me to do things that LR is poor at.

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Alan

'It's not enough that I succeed -- others must fail.' - Genghis Khan
 
Hi

Actually you can sync your Lightroom folders to your external file structure.

Once you get into using LR and use it as a database it cannot be beaten. You have to adapt a bit but then you discover a better way of working. It is true that you need instruction so that you get off on the right foot. Go at it in a haphazard feel your way manner and you will not get on well with it at all.

The depth of thought that has gone into the prog is incredible.

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Berni29

E30 & 14-54 previously E510 (much loved), E300, E1.
 
I have a friend who loves it, but at the same time, at least for now, I need to be out shooting and don't even have the time to learn LR.

I would love it, but I loaded it, and thought it was slow compared to acdsee loading thumbnails, etc.
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-Anthony
 
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-Anthony
 
You don't like Lightroom because you have the patience of gnat and no tolerance for adapting!! ;)

I know Mr. Guru, it's not a blind attack. :)

I "LOVE" LR and wouldn't think of using something else after moving over to it. It's just so flexible and convenient for me. The only time I touch Photoshop anymore is for Noise Ninja Plugin (Although I have Neat Image stand alone as well) or if I need to get creative and/or have to use masking.
CadGuru said:
Call me crazy, I just don't "get" lightroom. I am pretty computer
literate, etc. I just don't like the interface. I find using CS3 and
ACR are fine for me and using acdsee pro2 to catalog everthing works
fine.
I will admit I do run into issues where Adobe's file info layout puts
stuff in a different location than Acdsee and my way isn't
streamlined, but wondered if others felt the same way.
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-Anthony
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Yeah well I am rubber your glue! LOL
I am going to give it another shot, just now is finding the time.
Plus from what I understand ACR 5.2 has the same engine as LR 2.2
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-Anthony
 
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