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--Hi,

I do also weddings to earn my living.
I did the last 3 years all the work with the 1dsMKII, what was a great.
But it was a heavy piece to work with the whole day.

So i bought a 5dMKII, and after a few weddings, i'm not sure yet this camera will
stay.

The focus is really really slow compared to the 1ds, i dont feel sure if i GOT the moment.

But please tell me if other wedding shooters are 100% happy, and maybe i have to get used to this camera's focusing system.

And i feel that with the 580 flash it overexpose very easy, didn't saw this on the 1ds.
Funny i feel with this modern camera it need more time to get used to it.

What are you're wedding experience with this camera?
 
Jeff used to be a 1DsIII user but these days he prefers the smaller and lighter 5DII, except when it rains ;-)

I've used a pair of 5D's for my last 3 wedding seasons...it's an awesome wedding camera but use the single centre point and learn the "point and re-compose technique".

Regards

Gareth Cooper
GaryJP said:
http://jeffascough.bigfolioblog.com/

He's shooting 5D MkII

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i have 1 DS MKIII for the weddings and to test the 5DMKII in real life i have started to make some shoot in Studio with kids, you know this kind of kidgs running everywhere... Thus in Low Key condition i was not able to focus on him enough quickly. I have changed on the fly for my pretty DSMKIII and yeesss.

We have bought the 5DMKII for a book writing, and clearly i won't keep it for wedding or shoot with kids. It's ok in calm condition, you can choose the Af sensor and blabla and shoot and blabla...

For me the concern is about postion of the sensors in the finder and not fast enough.

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Keep the light..

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--Yes Jef is a great photographer.

But he still got his 1dsmkIII also......

No i'm not happy with the 5dMKII, i will bring it soon to canon, to see if my camera is ok.

If they say its ok i think i'll work again with my 1dsMKII for the moment (AF IS 100X better), and keep the 5d as a strange back up.

PLease, if you earn your money with weddings try a 5dmkII before you buy it.
Only you can judge if its up to your.....thing.

And Yes you can make great photos with it, but for kids in the studio, and fast moving weddings where there is only ALWAYS one moment...i don't know if this is the right camera.

BUT if there arew pro shooters out there who proof me wrong please speak.

Last night i worked on my wedding from saturday, and i had SO many unsharp photos, and strange over exposed flash photos, never seen this on my 1ds.

regards,

raoul
 
No...you just need to learn how to use it's AF system. The 1D series AF system is very different. Like i said, use the centre point, hold and recompose.

Last year I did a stack of weddings with a pair of 5D's and I found it to be quick and accurate...if you know how to use it properly. Sure it's not a 1D series but it's more than adequate in the right hands.

I find that it's fine even with fast primes...more that adequate
eldjack said:
i have 1 DS MKIII for the weddings and to test the 5DMKII in real
life i have started to make some shoot in Studio with kids, you know
this kind of kidgs running everywhere... Thus in Low Key condition i
was not able to focus on him enough quickly. I have changed on the
fly for my pretty DSMKIII and yeesss.

We have bought the 5DMKII for a book writing, and clearly i won't
keep it for wedding or shoot with kids. It's ok in calm condition,
you can choose the Af sensor and blabla and shoot and blabla...

For me the concern is about postion of the sensors in the finder and
not fast enough.

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Keep the light..

http://www.magicflightstudio.com
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http://www.GMCPhotographics.com (weddings)
http://www.pbase.com/gazzajagman (other stuff)

'Science is what we dream of, technology is what we are stuck with' Douglas Adams
 
Just wondering what you used before autofocus? I don't think it's a problem with the 5d, but I'm sure it's not going to be as competent as the 1ds since it's less than half the price. I would way rather have two bodies than one for a wedding. I used my manual focus Bronicas for many years without problems and now enjoy Canon's auto-focus, sure sometimes the focus might be slightly off, but it's always way better than it was with manual focus medium format. You can never go by someone elses experience though. Whatever works for you is what works, so if the 5d II isn't working for your style, go back to the 1 series bodies.
 
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If you want this to get past the typical useless 5dII AF is inadequate vs. 5dII AF is fine dribble, then it'd be useful to know what AF settings you're using and what situations you find it to be wanting with those settings.

A couple of posters have already given you advice in using the center point focus point. The 5dII's center focus point is quick and accurate and, if you can adjust to it, you will get good results.
 
I have both the 1DsMarkII and the 5DMarkII. I just shot a wedding in January with extremely poor lighting conditions. I use the center point, focus with * button, and recompose and was happy with both cameras. I think proper technique is required (assuming nothing is wrong with your camera). This techniques works for me almost all of the time. I like the higher ISO available with the 5DMark II and less weight is nice also.

Mike
 
After all the hype and from using a couple of 5D2 since they came out, I still do not have complete confidence in there autofocus for moving subjects.

Unless you want a cheaper equal pixel count, high ISO, or lesser weight is a must, I would stick with the 1ds3.

Yes there are some work arounds for the focus as others have mentioned but they are a pain and time consuming.

Canon really should have put the eye control EOS 3 focus into the 5d2, as it stands the focus is as bad as the original and no where near a 1ds3.

I find it amusing people keep providing gear/brand examples from "good" wedding photographers but the images provided are blurry, ISO-grainy, vignetted and high contast photos often with way to much post processing. Most of these images can be produced with a G10.

Anyway, I am sticking with the 1ds3 as my main cameras until the next generation arrives.

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People try to pretend these are logical, scientific decisions.

They really aren't. I think some of us make better photos with certain cameras than we do with others. Why? I don't know. Don't really care, either. To me, only the results matter.

I used a Canon 1DsMkII for a couple of years. My feeling is that it is a nearly "magic" camera. The work I created with it constantly surpassed my expectations. Shooting with 20D, 40D, and 5D, I didn't have that same feeling. I always feel with these cameras that I'm a little off my game. Don't get me wrong -- I've taken thousands of great pictures with them, but still, in the back of my head, something is missing.

When it came time to buy my next full-frame camera a month ago, I had to choose between the 5DMKII and the Nikon D700. I chose the D700 and so far, I am thrilled that I did. I feel like that camera has much in common with the old 1DsMkII, and once again, I feel the camera is surpassing my expectations.

Now would I not have seen the same thing with a 5DMkII? I dunno. Maybe. My partner is buying one in the next few weeks, and I'll have the opportunity to shoot with it a lot this spring and summer. But for me, I am disappointed with Canon's product line -- I would like to see another full-frame camera somewhere between the $2600 5DMkII, and the $7000 1DsMkIII. So I switched to the D700, and will be shooting with it as my main camera this wedding season.

Clearly, a lot of very skilled and accomplished wedding photographers would strongly disagree with my assessment, and they are using the 5DMkII happily. The 5DMkII is capable of some amazing images. But that's why we have choices. You aren't them -- only you can decide what camera helps YOU make the best pictures you can. If a particular camera doesn't feel right to you, I would switch it for another that does.

Best,
Paul
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http://photographersinthenews.com
 
Neiool said:
After all the hype and from using a couple of 5D2 since they came
out, I still do not have complete confidence in there autofocus for
moving subjects.

Unless you want a cheaper equal pixel count, high ISO, or lesser
weight is a must, I would stick with the 1ds3.

Yes there are some work arounds for the focus as others have
mentioned but they are a pain and time consuming.

Canon really should have put the eye control EOS 3 focus into the
5d2, as it stands the focus is as bad as the original and no where
near a 1ds3.

I find it amusing people keep providing gear/brand examples from
"good" wedding photographers but the images provided are blurry,
ISO-grainy, vignetted and high contast photos often with way to much
post processing. Most of these images can be produced with a G10.

Anyway, I am sticking with the 1ds3 as my main cameras until the next
generation arrives.

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Are we in the midst of an Ecophenotypic effect ?? oooO_Oooo ( () . () )
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All images provided so far on these thread are not blurry and ISO-grainy. What a nonsense statement.
 
--Can Anyone share their succes using center point focus and recomposing? My expereince is that focal plane will lead to less than tack sharp pictures.
 
kferguso said:
--Can Anyone share their succes using center point focus and
recomposing? My expereince is that focal plane will lead to less than
tack sharp pictures.
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I enjoy tack sharp images in available light with a Sigma 30/1.4 on an XT and 30D using only the center AF point. I would guess that the 5DII is at least as good in this respect.

Sal
 
Voila, thanks last poster.

If you are like me (im alone here), work a lot on 2.8 , then the recompose techinque is dangerous, because focusing on the eyes and then recompose can cause unsharpness.

But sorry, i get mad a bit, this F technique i used on my d30/d60 days thats way back in the begining of the 2000.....

Now sorry to say, if you all are SO happy with your 5dmkII i'm happy for you, but to buy a camera that right out of my box doesnt auto focus good, is a joke.

Sure i can learn a new way of focusing, but the 1dsmkII is 3 a 4 years old now, by now this AF system could have been build inside the new 5d, or almost sometjhing like this.

Give me a break, i love canon, don't want to switch to nikon, i drive a volkswagen, before a fiat, they both stopped on time, with out first learning a new way of braking.
COME ON.

Admit the 5dmkII is a great camera, but the AF for weddings, moving kids is a joke.

Hope canon comes soon with a new cam....

my thoughts, i know i make some people mad....
 
--Thanks Sal, but just to be clear; we are talking here of focusing using the center and then recomposing the shot. So , for example, at a wedding where you are focusing on the bride but she is not in the center of the shot for all sorts of good reasons, in order to get accurate focus you first focus using the center mark and then recompose. In my experience, especially in wedding shots that are often starving for light, the focus plane change will result in less than desirable results.
 
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