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graduating from a Minolta D7i to the D60 will be a new experience for me.
current lense selection is a 28-135IS, or the 28-70L.
question is, will either provide excellent Macro shots?
 
hawkeye12 said:
graduating from a Minolta D7i to the D60 will be a new experience
for me.
current lense selection is a 28-135IS, or the 28-70L.
question is, will either provide excellent Macro shots?
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I have the 28-135. I got an inexpensive set of 3 extension tubes (ProOptic brand, $89, from Adorama) that enable me to fill the frame with a quarter.

They have no glass, so they don't degrade the image. I am used to Nikon coolpix cameras, with macro focusing down to .8 inches, and I thought I would need to hold onto my CP990 for that. However, the 28-135 + extension tubes satisfies me very much.
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WalterK said:
They have no glass, so they don't degrade the image.
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Ah, that's not quite right. Since there isn't any glass to correct the image for the displaced focusing plane, the image is degraded.

Extenders are a cheap way to do macro, but they can't compete with an actual lense (glass) designed to do the job.
 
The best macro shots of moving subjects that I see are from consumer digicams.

Their superior DOF and the ability to frame using the LCD screen seem to lead to better shots of insects, frogs, and other small animals.

If you are going to shoot static macros, probably a MF camera would do the best job.

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You might want to take a look at the Vivitar macro lens (or one of the other "sister" companies which are the same - Phoenix, I believe, and Promaster I am sure about). It has a lousy build quality, being plastic and such, and to get to 1:1 (vs 1:2) you need to add on the supplied matched diopter lens, but it costs only $125 or so and gets you 95% or more of the quality.

Also, the 2-element diopter closeup lenses, such as the Canon 250D or 500D, are very good in quality.

It all depends on how much you want to spend and how picky you are for quality...
hawkeye12 said:
your right...........macro lense it is.
i think i'm going to go like this;
24-85 f/3.5-4.5usm
70-200 f/4.0/Lusm
100 f/2.8 usm

this should get me started.......sound OK?
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That sounds like a good start! I have the 24-85 and the 70-200 F4L and have been very satisfied with both.
hawkeye12 said:
Marc Brackhahn said:
If you want "EXCELLENT" macro shots you need a macro lens! Look at
the EF 100mm F/2.8 USM. You could read user reviews at
http://www.photographyreview.com . It is rated extremely high!!!
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your right...........macro lense it is.
i think i'm going to go like this;
24-85 f/3.5-4.5usm
70-200 f/4.0/Lusm
100 f/2.8 usm

this should get me started.......sound OK?
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John
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Canon EOS D30
Canon 24-85USM
Canon 70-200 f/4L
Sigma 50-500EX
Kenko 2x Pro TC
 
I had both lenses and sold the 28-135. Any pics I take have to be with that 28-70. It is a prime/zoom to me!
hawkeye12 said:
graduating from a Minolta D7i to the D60 will be a new experience
for me.
current lense selection is a 28-135IS, or the 28-70L.
question is, will either provide excellent Macro shots?
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Tory
D30
24 1.4L
20-35 2.8L
28-70 2.8L
100-400L
http://www.pbase.com/tgyberg
 
Tory,

how do you like the 24mm 1.4L? i want the 24mm L but also want the 28-70mm L...

nic
Tory Gyberg said:
I had both lenses and sold the 28-135. Any pics I take have to be
with that 28-70. It is a prime/zoom t
Tory
D30
24 1.4L
20-35 2.8L
28-70 2.8L
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I have been reading this forum for a year, and waiting for my D60 since it was first released. During the waiting period, I had decided to get a whole bunch of L lenses, but then finally my camera was here, and I couldn't really decide excatly which lenses to buy, so I went with the 28-135 as a temporary lens while I got to know the camera, and figured I could always use this as a walkaround lens later. I also wanted to try out IS and see how much use it to me (I use it all the time).

I expected the 28-135 to only give me average picture quality, but I am very, very pleased with the results I'm getting with the exception of indoors without a flash, where the limited aperture of this lens is a problem and it can be hard to get an AF lock.

My overriding recommendation whichever lenses you go with would be to buy the most flexible lens first, and promise yourself to wait at least 3 months before buying the next one. This will give you plenty of time to reflect about what is important to you and your style of photography.

Also, if you're really not sure whether to get the 28-135 or the 28-70, get the 28-135. It's much lighter, much cheaper, has IS, has a much bigger range, and you can always upgrade later on, at which point maybe Canon has released an even better lens for your needs.
 
I really like the 24mmL ! It fires sooo fast at 400 iso with almost no light! I have found that I use it alot more than any other lens. Shoot me an email at [email protected] and I will send over a couple pics!
Texas said:
how do you like the 24mm 1.4L? i want the 24mm L but also want
the 28-70mm L...

nic
Tory Gyberg said:
I had both lenses and sold the 28-135. Any pics I take have to be
with that 28-70. It is a prime/zoom t
Tory
D30
24 1.4L
20-35 2.8L
28-70 2.8L
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Tory
D30
24 1.4L
20-35 2.8L
28-70 2.8L
100-400L
http://www.pbase.com/tgyberg
 
one thing i like about the D60 is that there are a lot of choices.
hyslopc said:
I have been reading this forum for a year, and waiting for my D60
since it was first released. During the waiting period, I had
decided to get a whole bunch of L lenses, but then finally my
camera was here, and I couldn't really decide excatly which lenses
to buy, so I went with the 28-135 as a temporary lens while I got
to know the camera, and figured I could always use this as a
walkaround lens later. I also wanted to try out IS and see how
much use it to me (I use it all the time).

I expected the 28-135 to only give me average picture quality, but
I am very, very pleased with the results I'm getting with the
exception of indoors without a flash, where the limited aperture of
this lens is a problem and it can be hard to get an AF lock.

My overriding recommendation whichever lenses you go with would be
to buy the most flexible lens first, and promise yourself to wait
at least 3 months before buying the next one. This will give you
plenty of time to reflect about what is important to you and your
style of photography.

Also, if you're really not sure whether to get the 28-135 or the
28-70, get the 28-135. It's much lighter, much cheaper, has IS,
has a much bigger range, and you can always upgrade later on, at
which point maybe Canon has released an even better lens for your
needs.
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hawkeye12 said:
your right...........macro lense it is.
i think i'm going to go like this;
24-85 f/3.5-4.5usm
70-200 f/4.0/Lusm
100 f/2.8 usm

this should get me started.......sound OK?
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No, this is not optimal.

Forget about the 24-85 cheap zoom, and buy two prime lenses instead. I will go for one 20 mm 2.8 USM and one 35 mm 2.0. They give 32 mm and 56 mm effect respectively, and they will completely blow away the zoom with their sharpness.

I also would recommend the 100 mm 2.8 USM Macro. The 70-200 zoom cannot compete in quality with prime lenses, but the difference is slim.

Per Inge Oestmoen
http://www.coldsiberia.org/
 
hyslopc said:
I expected the 28-135 to only give me average picture quality, but
I am very, very pleased with the results I'm getting with the
exception of indoors without a flash, where the limited aperture of
this lens is a problem and it can be hard to get an AF lock.
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I just say this: Try a prime lens, and be prepared for a great shock. You may think your images are sharp, but wait until you shoot with a high quality Canon prime.

Per Inge Oestmoen
http://www.coldsiberia.org/
 
Per Inge Oestmoen said:
No, this is not optimal.
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Optimal for what? If he's taking shots indoors with low light or outdoor scenics/landscapes where he has a lot of freedom to move around, then I like your prime solution. If he wants a travel lens that will give him a lot of freedom for shooting in situations where he has less control or in environments where changing lenses is difficult/risky, then the 24-85 is the way to go.

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Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/parr/
 
Ron Parr said:
Per Inge Oestmoen said:
No, this is not optimal.
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Member said:
Optimal for what? If he's taking shots indoors with low light or
outdoor scenics/landscapes where he has a lot of freedom to move
around, then I like your prime solution. If he wants a travel lens
that will give him a lot of freedom for shooting in situations
where he has less control or in environments where changing lenses
is difficult/risky, then the 24-85 is the way to go.
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Yes, your reasoning is correct, and I will second that. The thing is only that most people, in particular not these new to photography, are unaware of the big difference between primes and zooms. I have quite a few times been annoyed by shop assistants who have wanted to sell me zoom lenses because they assumed that that was what I wanted.

As a matter of fact, zooms are the solution that is almost invariably offered to customers. And I ask: How many really know that (high quality) primes are vastly superior to zoom lenses? The awareness of this would be a determining factor for many, all other things being equal.

Per Inge Oestmoen
http://www.coldsiberia.org/
 
just wanted to follow up to those who gave me such great advice.

after all the trial and error, i have found the lens selections i made to be quite adequate for my D60, and have since learned how to use it and my lenses to get the most out of my new hobby.
thanks to you all.

photography is my passion.
 
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