How do you know the e-520 sales have been good vs the e-420? How do
we know the e-420 line hasn't sold well?
I'm not saying that it didn't sell well. I just believe that the
E-520 sold better.
Well you made a claim, didn't seem like a guess. All I am saying is if you know this to be true, pass the ganji to the left hand side... er.. um... that was an old old song hehe
Well I remember there being posts from both camera dealers talking
about their store's individual sales and forum members relating what
their own dealers told them (510/520 outsells 410/420) but I'll go
nuts trying to find them.
Well to me this is sort of anecdotal though. I mean we could argue we have seen a lot of e-420 owners even ones that had or still have Full Frame cameras... but that's still anecdotal.
I just did a lot of searching for articles I remember reading and
didn't come up with all I was looking for. Here's some.
The Top 50 Best Selling Digital Cameras:
-the only Olympus to make the list was the E-520 at the 47th slot.
http://www.gizmag.com/the-top-50-best-selling-digital-cameras/10375/
In this one (Japan Sales 2008) the E-520 and E-420 are virtually tied
- 18th and 19th place with 1.2% share. The E-510 sold a bit more
1.4%. The E-410 didn't make the top 20.
http://www.photolectic.com/reviews/dslr/top-20-best-selling-dslrs-in-japan-2008.html
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=30525030
Yeah but that's the 410 not the 420. I think sales of the 420 increased when the pancake was shown. The e-410 "never ate pancakes so... "
I know my experience only includes a tiny sample but I see the
E-510/520 in stores more often than the E-410/420. Flickr list the
E-510 as the most posted Oly DSLR on their site last I checked. I
see more 510/20 posts on this forum than 410/20.
I am not talking about the 510. I am talking about 420/520. By this I mean that it's possible the trend changed when the 420 got in, particularly because of le pancake lens.
It may be pretty close with the edge to the E-5x0 series. I can't
find world sales of individual models or US sales. You'll have to
take my word for it.
I don't
That's why I am asking all of this
I mean I have seen my own things too... I am not saying it's impossible, but I just don't see it easy to conclude.
The e-410 and e-420 were both announced around or right after
PMA so I am expecting the same thing. And e-5xx will be announced
later probably.
I don't think we'll see a E-530 this year. The 520 will remain a bit
longer. I think a new Olympus DSLR will emerge. A new 'tweener'
between the E-520 and the E-30. This should help silence the 4/3rds
naysayers that the system is dead (for a bit longer). If I'm right
that will make 2009:
E-30; new 'tweener model'; maybe 2 new m4/3rds models plus lenses; & E-5
That's a lot for Oly to come out with in one year. E-530 next year.
But what size is this camera going to be?
I don't know.
I guess it would have to be
like the e-520.
I would think. Probably uses the same body and some of its' components.
If it's for some reason like the e-420 I don't
consider the e-4xx line per se dead but "moved up."
The E-5 if anything will be shown as mockup and I bet it won't. One
pattern Olympus has adopted more than ever in the last 2 years is of
surprise products. Nobody saw the pancake coming, same with the E-30.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Setaside2 predicted the pancake
months before it came out and many (I don't know who was the first)
were talking about the 'tweener (E-30)' a long, long time before it
arrived or was even announced.
There were leaks.
Yes.
That's differetn from Olympus having something in
their roadmap because it wasn't.
Right.
Well then. That's my point!
The E-30 also came out of nowhere.
Yes but the leaks were right.
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Because I really doubt they will finish it in time
Just like the
E-30 wasn't released for the holiday season. Also I don't believe a
camera in the class of the E-5 in price would be affected by any
holiday rush- this is not a mass market item.
If the rumor that Oly releases three DSLRs this year is true, I
assume (rightly or wrongly) that the E-5 is the third.
But who knows?
That's fine, all I am saying is I don't think a camera in the market and price of the E-5 is going to be "rushed' for "not missing holidays." I don't think a camera of that caliber, Olympus would care about Xmas. It's just not tied to it.
"Look dad what I gave you for Xmas! I decided to buy you an E-3 with the 12-60! It was only $2,500 USD. Now when we go on vacation you can take it along (though it's kinda heavy and big) and photograph our family snaps!"
No. Just no
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