what's in store in PMA this year for Oly

I agree 100%.
 
it means we should get a look at the other mFT
if it exists
so you are unlikely to see either - if they exist!

EX30 would be my guess, and the X will be a 5, and it will have a 12mp sensor and the new engine but retain the 5xx body/viewfinder and non articulating screen ie updated 520

I would be surprised if the Ex was announced

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it means we should get a look at the other mFT
if it exists
If it means think about the M1, i agree, but complete sentences help.

The M1, although the rumor doesn't say yet, means the possibility of having an EVF, since it would have the wheaterproof feature, which in Oly's dSLR world is an advanced, and expensive one.

So if we are talking two models, one expensive, one inexpensive, it makes sense that the more expensive one would have an EVF and be able to compete with the G1 and the G10.

If so it would be a PJ but also a traveller's dream, a 24-90 eq., stabilised, covering all the basic needs, except long tele.

The M100 might be more of a conventional P&S, without need for an EVF, provided that it has a price low enough to undercut the G1.

Last, a 530/430 would cover well those who want to use the full range of the 4/3 lenses, without getting broke.

It the Russian rumor is a leak, then it would mean that Oly can offer a complete range of bodies, that covers all needs. Price point is another matter :)

Am.

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Olympus categorically denied m43 for PMA this week...
Where is that story?
EX30 would be my guess, and the X will be a 5, and it will have a 12mp sensor and the new engine but retain the 5xx body/viewfinder and non articulating screen ie updated 520
That is my prediction too: the E-5x0 series has apparently been easily the best selling of 4/3 models, well ahead of even the less expensive E-4x0 models, and so distinctly more profitable. But sales have been sliding lately, probably due to the MP lag. So a 12MP E-520 is probably the first priority for Olympus 4/3 right now.
 
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Olympus confirmed to me today, no Micro 4/3 cameras at PMA this year.

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it means we should get a look at the other mFT
if it exists
so you are unlikely to see either - if they exist!
thats not quite right
no announcements, maybe a concept model under glass
not sure why that statement makes mine 'not quite correct' at all. If anything it supports it exactly!

I concluded that you were unlikely to see either ie the actual m43 bodies, and you quote the suggestion that we may see a(nother concept model under glass

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it means we should get a look at the other mFT
if it exists
so you are unlikely to see either - if they exist!
thats not quite right
no announcements, maybe a concept model under glass
not sure why that statement makes mine 'not quite correct' at all. If
anything it supports it exactly!
you said "you are unlikely to see either"
Tony says, "maybe a concept model under glass"
what part of that is the same and makes your statement true
I concluded that you were unlikely to see either ie the actual m43
bodies, and you quote the suggestion that we may see a(nother concept
model under glass
oh here we go, the concept may differ from the actual, well thats no surprise, but the essence of a concept usually holds true. The camera resulting is not all that different. That equates to a "look see"
 
"oh here we go, the concept may differ from the actual, well thats no surprise,"

exactly my point

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you know what Dave,
thats a long aways from "Olympus categorically denied m43 for PMA this week..."

when other resources have said that there will be news of this 1st qtr 09. Common sense suggests PMA is a good venue for that. Your problem is with yourself, not with me.
 
If anything of the last years is anything to go by:

A revamped e-4xx. I know some say that that line is dead but honestly, it's all speculation, so I am going to keep the e-4xx torch lit. The e-410 and e-420 were both announced around or right after PMA so I am expecting the same thing. And e-5xx will be announced later probably.

Now here's where I wonder- if Olympus is doing a u4/3rds like the mockup concept we are seeing then I don't see the 4/3rds line affected (yet). But if they have a surprise more "pro" model, then I can see Olympus considering consolidating the e-4xx and e-5xx line or eliminating one or the other to make way for that u4/3rds model.

The E-5 if anything will be shown as mockup and I bet it won't. One pattern Olympus has adopted more than ever in the last 2 years is of surprise products. Nobody saw the pancake coming, same with the E-30. I think they may say something by year's end with possible release 2010 (for E-5). This is all my guess. The E-5 may have 12-14 megapixels (again my guess). I think it's possible the new super panasonic DR sensor shows up finally. If that happens, it's possible it may have only 10-12 megapixels as that feature alone will be a noticeable one and may be harder to do with a more dense megapixel count.

And yeah the E-5 will cost a billion dollars. I expect something similar to the E-3. If it has the new high dynamic range sensor, maybe add $500 more.

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that at the end of February Oly will anounce new body between E520
and E30, with 7 AF points. Thts all.
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That sounds interesting, and it fits with the comments about the E-30 becoming a 'tweener despite its high price. If this happens, I think it's likely that the E-420 and E-520 will remain in the line-up as budget options until the fall, when they are replaced by the m4/3 offering(s). This means 4/3 would gradually shift to the higher end, where good optical viewfinders and low response times are considered to be important, and m4/3 could take over the low end and the ultra-compact market.

Personally, I'm hoping for an E-600(?) with a pentaprism OVF (why have a crappy VF if 4/3's only selling point over m4/3 is the VF) and a very compact form factor (similar to E-4x0, PS-BLS1 battery, no swivel screen). Weight should be under 600g including battery. IS is likely to be part of the package as well. Just dreaming...

Simon
 
If anything of the last years is anything to go by:
It isn't necessarily.
A revamped e-4xx. I know some say that that line is dead but
honestly, it's all speculation,
True speculation (I think). Micro 4/3rds is too important now and the E-420 is invading their turf. I don't think we'll see an E-430. They'll keep the E-5x0 line however. Sales have been too good.
so I am going to keep the e-4xx torch lit.
That's admirably
The e-410 and e-420 were both announced around or right after
PMA so I am expecting the same thing. And e-5xx will be announced
later probably.
I don't think we'll see a E-530 this year. The 520 will remain a bit longer. I think a new Olympus DSLR will emerge. A new 'tweener' between the E-520 and the E-30. This should help silence the 4/3rds naysayers that the system is dead (for a bit longer). If I'm right that will make 2009:
E-30; new 'tweener model'; maybe 2 new m4/3rds models plus lenses; & E-5
That's a lot for Oly to come out with in one year. E-530 next year.
Now here's where I wonder- if Olympus is doing a u4/3rds like the
mockup concept we are seeing then I don't see the 4/3rds line
affected (yet). But if they have a surprise more "pro" model,
They just might. If they do, you're going to love it!
then I
can see Olympus considering consolidating the e-4xx and e-5xx line
Yep.
or eliminating one
E-420. Maybe they'll continue to make it for a bit or just run down the stock until it's gone.
or the other to make way for that u4/3rds model.

The E-5 if anything will be shown as mockup and I bet it won't. One
pattern Olympus has adopted more than ever in the last 2 years is of
surprise products. Nobody saw the pancake coming, same with the E-30.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Setaside2 predicted the pancake months before it came out and many (I don't know who was the first) were talking about the 'tweener (E-30)' a long, long time before it arrived or was even announced.
I think they may say something by year's end with possible release
2010 (for E-5). This is all my guess.
A good guess I would say. I think it may arrive in the last quarter of 2009 even. Why waste the holiday shopping season if they can finish it in time.
The E-5 may have 12-14
megapixels (again my guess).
Sounds right.
I think it's possible the new super
panasonic DR sensor shows up finally.
I don't know about this but maybe.
If that happens, it's possible
it may have only 10-12 megapixels as that feature alone will be a
noticeable one and may be harder to do with a more dense megapixel
count.

And yeah the E-5 will cost a billion dollars. I expect something
similar to the E-3. If it has the new high dynamic range sensor,
maybe add $500 more.
I think the E-5 will be priced about the same as the E-3 was on its' release (approx $1699). This will separate it from the E-30 again. If it is higher, I think it will be minimal. I wouldn't think that Oly wants to bring it too close to FF models and would like to keep it below the D-400 price.

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