No wireless remote shutter release in D300?

marikenv · Jan 22, 2009

I am a little dismayed at what I perceive as a lack of demand for a remote shutter system as it exists in the D80/90. Why is this feature not included in cameras such as the D200/300. Why would a professional/serious amateur photographer not want a remote that enables one stand well back in a studio/nature/sporting event and fire away at will, from a benign location, when the moment is right? One can often do more to create a better setting, and be less threatening, while away from the camera than to be stuck right there or dragging chords. How about self-portraits? Or being included group shots? The D200/300 only offers a one shot timer release which won't even work on live view - which incidentally, is just what one would like to be using should the camera be on a tripod. The ML-L3 wireless remote for the D80/90 sells for about $25 and works beautifully. How does one complain about this deficiency effectively to Nikon in hopes of having this feature included in the D300's successor? Anyone else frustrated by this?
Ken

Ryburn · Jan 22, 2009

I guess I was a little surprised at first learning there wasn't a wireless remote. But then, I never really liked the way the D70 worked with one either (having to pretty much be in front of the camera).

There are very good wired remotes available from Nikon, and a Photix wireless remote that seems well regarded by users on this forum , but I can't vouch for it personally.

It occurs to me that using the Nikon wireless remotes at a sporting event might be problematic if there were more than one photographer shooting that way.

Anyway, it sure wasn't a deal breaker for me.

David314 · Jan 22, 2009

marikenv said:
I am a little dismayed at what I perceive as a lack of demand for a
remote shutter system as it exists in the D80/90. Why is this feature
not included in cameras such as the D200/300.

http://www.nikonusa.com/Find-Your-Nikon/Product/Remote-Cords/4645/ML-3-Modulite-Remote-Control-Set.html

and there are a number of RF triggers from third parties - eg phottix cleon

good luck!

David

Mario Giannini · Jan 22, 2009

marikenv said:
Anyone else frustrated by this?

Not really. My wireless remote is a cheapo eBay unit that works fine, and is probably one of my least-used accessories. I had the Nikon ML-L3 with my D80, and used it just as rarely.

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Jan M · Jan 22, 2009

I picked up a Phottix Cleon N8 on ebay for $33 including shipping. I haven't spent a lot of time with it yet, but so far so good. I do think that it's much better than the IR release. http://www.dpnotes.com/phottix-cleon-n8/
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Kriss_75017 · Jan 23, 2009

I wonder, in BULB mode with this Phottix Cleon how do you know how long you let the exposure go ?
Do you need to use your watch or something appears on the D300 screen ?
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ron2000 · Jan 23, 2009

IR remote in D80/90 is not very satisfactory.

There are many 3rd party RF remote for every camera at very cheap price nowadays so it is not important that this feature is built into the camera.

Edward Amarante · Jan 23, 2009

ron2000 said:
IR remote in D80/90 is not very satisfactory.

There are many 3rd party RF remote for every camera at very cheap
price nowadays so it is not important that this feature is built into
the camera.
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--I don't like the IR remote on my D80 either. It's too directional, having to aim from the front on one side. I use the Phottix from EBAY for $30, and it works great. Shipped here from Hong Kong to the USA east coast in about 9 days. Once you use RF you won't want IR remote. JMHO
Ed

JG777 · Jan 23, 2009

I can vouch for the phottix cleon N8 as well. Works superbly and excellent value for the money. Still bought the D300 knowing it did not have the feature, the cam is just too good not to get.

John

egrivel · Jan 23, 2009

Kriss_75017 said:
I wonder, in BULB mode with this Phottix Cleon how do you know how
long you let the exposure go ?

Well, how would you know how long you let the exposure go if you use the shutter release in BULB mode? Wouldn't the Phottix remote work the same way?

Eric
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egrivel · Jan 23, 2009

Mario Giannini said:
I had the
Nikon ML-L3 with my D80, and used it just as rarely.

So did I, but I still miss it on those rare occasions when I would use it. Typically for things like Thanksgiving dinner or other family occasions, where I have my camera on a tripod and I'm in the picture myself. I'm now using the timer for that but it is very disruptive to have to get up and start it all the time. Don't get the fun candid shots anymore.

I guess I'll have to get the Phottix Cleon soon. Still, around $30, it is twice as expensive as the ML-L3, which I wouldn't have to buy in the first place because I already have it.

I always thought the remote on the D70/D80/D90 would be something that only serious photographers would use (unlike the scenes mode, which are clearly there for the transition of P&S photographers to the mid-range models) and I have to agree with the other posters that it is a bummer that Nikon doesn't include the functionality lower end models have in the D300.

Eric
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azguy · Jan 23, 2009

JG777 said:
I can vouch for the phottix cleon N8 as well. Works superbly and
excellent value for the money. Still bought the D300 knowing it did
not have the feature, the cam is just too good not to get.

John

Yes, I have it too. Very nice unit. I used it just last Friday evening to take a group photo of five of us. The range I get is about 50'.
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RomanJohnston · Jan 23, 2009

Guessing more serious camera....(IE less snap shots of self with girlfriend etc in FRONT of the camera) would require a more serious remote trigger release. The unit I have can be programed and is desined for much broader scope of use than the remote (cordless) trigger from my D70.

And just like the pro units where you have to buy a flash....your choices actually open up in choosing a remote trigger.

But I understand your post too....not trying to sound like an eletist snob...just guessing at design intent.

Roman
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Kriss_75017 · Jan 23, 2009

egrivel said:
Kriss_75017 said:

I wonder, in BULB mode with this Phottix Cleon how do you know how
long you let the exposure go ?

Click to expand...

Well, how would you know how long you let the exposure go if you use
the shutter release in BULB mode? Wouldn't the Phottix remote work
the same way?

Eric
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http://www.lumenssolutions.com/

Yes but what I would like is to "program" 1'30' exposure for instance. and with out a watch how could it be possible ?

The remote is just to not have the finger stick on the triger and move the D300 for the long exposure.

I wish I had the running time of the exposure on the remote or on the D300 screen.

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Chris Joubert · Jan 23, 2009

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Sigma 150mm f/2.8 macro
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Suntan · Jan 23, 2009

marikenv said:
Why would a
professional/serious amateur photographer not want a remote that
enables one stand well back in a studio/nature/sporting event and
fire away at will, from a benign location, when the moment is right?

Don’t think that there are only people that think buying a separate solution is ideal. There are still a lot of us that are miffed that the D300 doesn’t work with the $15 IR remote that still works just fine on our D70.

Its one of the main situations where I still use the D70 over the D300.

-Suntan

ron2000 · Jan 23, 2009

Suntan said:
marikenv said:

Why would a
professional/serious amateur photographer not want a remote that
enables one stand well back in a studio/nature/sporting event and
fire away at will, from a benign location, when the moment is right?

Click to expand...

Don’t think that there are only people that think buying a separate
solution is ideal. There are still a lot of us that are miffed that
the D300 doesn’t work with the $15 IR remote that still works just
fine on our D70.

Its one of the main situations where I still use the D70 over the D300.

-Suntan

With the availability of cheap (by no means not professional) wireless remote everywhere, this really is not an issue. Most people hate the IR remote anyway.

The same goes for programmable timer remote. Only professional/expensive cameras have such capability built into the camera but still the features are nowhere near as good as the 3rd party (cheap) timer remote for almost every available camera.

MTT · Jan 23, 2009

Shot from the back and greater distance.

Mark

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Sosumi · Jan 23, 2009

ron2000 said:
With the availability of cheap (by no means not professional)
wireless remote everywhere, this really is not an issue. Most people
hate the IR remote anyway.
The same goes for programmable timer remote. Only
professional/expensive cameras have such capability built into the
camera but still the features are nowhere near as good as the 3rd
party (cheap) timer remote for almost every available camera.

What?

The D300 has an excellent timer build in. Starting time, how many pictures in total, interval time and how many pictures taken each time. What more do you want?

Tim Bury · Jan 23, 2009

Add me to the list of those that was a little bit surprised the D300 didn't have IR Remote abilities built in. BUT, when I used it on my D80 I often was dissapointed I was unable to use it from behind the camera. So I'm okay that my D300 doesn't it and am quite happy with the phottix cleaon RF (radio) remote.

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