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Three stops of shadow recovery, plus other heavy PP in LR2. About 1/3EV highlight recovery as I exposed for the sky. Yes, there's significant problems in the high contrast highlight areas. Yes the shadow detail isn't the sharpest I've seen. But yes, it still does look "ok."



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Well, except for the "ghost trees" it looks good at this size. Tried this once with a shot from Venice (point & shoot), but gave up after two hours because it was too obvious at gradation limits ...

Cheers

Claudius
 
ShatteredSky said:
Well, except for the "ghost trees" it looks good at this size.
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I found that adding some Clarity (the Clarity slider in ACR/LR) mitigate the ghost trees effect when highlight recovery is used. Can pinpoint the Clarity effect using adjustment brushes in LR2.

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this was pointed out to dpreview when the E-3 review came out and it was said "it had limited DR." Quite frankly, nonsensical though I can understand that having a JPEG curve that you don't have to recover from shadows can be better in many situations.

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3 stops of shadow lifting that's impressive! I'm not sure if the E-1 can do any better.

Many have also stated the contrary. (how noisy NMOS sensors are after exposure adjustments etc..)

Wish I had an E-3 so I can discover it myself.

Cheers,
Tony
 
Still, the use of a Polarizer or proper ND filter would have obviated much of the post-processing machinations.

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Billy912 said:
Why to discover something already discovered - with graduated grey
filter you can avoid heavy PP next time
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whilst I might be making an assumption that it's a 7-14 shot (in the abscence of an exif viewer on this camera) you would appear to be assuming that it's not from the 7-14 with your post.

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Thanks for that info ... I will try that on my said Venice shot. I still have a lot to learn about ACR.

Cheers

Claudius
 
Is this base ISO?
I presume +3.0 EV whithout any AG involved?
What ISO?
Did you see any banding in the fullsized image?

Allover I find the result pretty good for such a big adjustment.
I also generally find the E-3 DR quite good, it renders deep into the shadows.

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travelfotografer said:
ShatteredSky said:
Well, except for the "ghost trees" it looks good at this size.
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I found that adding some Clarity (the Clarity slider in ACR/LR)
mitigate the ghost trees effect when highlight recovery is used. Can
pinpoint the Clarity effect using adjustment brushes in LR2.
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You're absolutely correct on how to fix up the "ghost trees" in LR2. However, this final image was already made by using that method with about two or three passes of the clarity, including selective contrast enhancement. Given the starting material, the detail just isn't there - I eventually darkened as much as I could in the fifteen minutes of PP and then left the remaining ghost trees as they are...

It likely won't get printed, so I'm not worried too much.

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Tim
'I haven't been everywhere, but it's on my list.'
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Raist3d said:
this was pointed out to dpreview when the E-3 review came out and it
was said "it had limited DR." Quite frankly, nonsensical though I can
understand that having a JPEG curve that you don't have to recover
from shadows can be better in many situations.
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I think the DR of the E-3 is above average; not excellent, assuming one knows how to expose properly in the given situations. The E-3 has a ton of shadow recovery, but somewhat little highlight recovery, as pinpointed by DPReview. Understanding this, you'd want to expose for the highlights more often than the shadows, which is fortunately the most common method for expanding DR.

I think you may have seen this test as well, but this shows somewhat decent highlight recovery on the E-3 (note the wine label):





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Tim
'I haven't been everywhere, but it's on my list.'
E3/E410/7-14/12-60/50-200/25/EC-14
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timskis6/
 
ulrichvonlich said:
3 stops of shadow lifting that's impressive! I'm not sure if the E-1
can do any better.

Many have also stated the contrary. (how noisy NMOS sensors are after
exposure adjustments etc..)

Wish I had an E-3 so I can discover it myself.

Cheers,
Tony
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Tim
'I haven't been everywhere, but it's on my list.'
E3/E410/7-14/12-60/50-200/25/EC-14
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timskis6/
 
I guess I should have posted EXIF too, that would have helped.

Model = E-3
Exposure Time = 1/100"
F Number = F5.6
Exposure Program = Aperture priority
ISO Speed Ratings = 100
Focal Length = 7mm
eaa said:
Is this base ISO?
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Yes.
eaa said:
I presume +3.0 EV whithout any AG involved?
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What's AG?
eaa said:
What ISO?
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ISO100
eaa said:
Did you see any banding in the fullsized image?
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There's banding in the shadows of the trees when lifted +3EV - contrast enhancement fixed it a bit.
eaa said:
Allover I find the result pretty good for such a big adjustment.
I also generally find the E-3 DR quite good, it renders deep into the
shadows.

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Erik Aaseth
http://www.pbase.com/eaaseth
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Tim
'I haven't been everywhere, but it's on my list.'
E3/E410/7-14/12-60/50-200/25/EC-14
http://www.flickr.com/photos/timskis6/
 
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