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Martin Datzinger said:
Mostly to snobs...
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First of all many D3x's are and will be sold to pro photographers because of the outstanding IQ. Most of them don't come (anymore) on Dpreview....
Martin Datzinger said:
Can we have peace if I call them enthusiast amateurs instead of snobs from now on? Because, every time I read enthusiast, I translate that into "snob"
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Next to that you have photo enthusiasts who prefer a great but expensive camera over spending money on too expensive cars, gambling, drinking, smoking, drugs or chasing hookers... Are those snobs? No, those are often smart, decent people with an expensive hobby...

Just my thoughts...
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bloomoose said:
To me you sound like those whining amateurs who make real
professionals like Martin stay away from dpreview ...
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Professionals can be whiners too. I think Martin has already proved that. No one has a monopoly on whining...

Apart from anything else I want to know that Sony is going to be around in the coming decades if I invest in their system. Which I won't, so it doesn't really matter to me, to be honest and selfish for a moment.
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Frustrated with some comments, yes.

BTW, if everything goes well, I'll get myself a cheap, but fun car instead of a D3X - a mildly used Smart Roadster. Yay! :)

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That is a valid point you make and I accept that.

I will never leave the Nikon system, though, and one day probably buy the D3X if I need a high resolution body with the D3 body´s superior AF.

But before that will happen, I am eyeballing the Nikkor PCE 45 ;)
jljones said:
Apart from anything else I want to know that Sony is going to be
around in the coming decades if I invest in their system. Which I
won't, so it doesn't really matter to me, to be honest and selfish
for a moment.
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RoscoT said:
As you are a working pro, I would think the first question you would
ask yourself is; Does my current equipment meet my business need. The
second would be; If I don't upgrade, am I putting my self at a
disadvantage compared to my competitors.
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No. Being a working professional does not mean just buying the next expensive camera because someone else uses the new model. It isn't always necessary to upgrade. You are theorizing instead of considering what is done by actual working photographers and studios.

Here is a fine example of a successful business you might be acquainted with. Glamor Shots, a popular portrait service in many shopping malls, sells packages to customers for $200 and upward, with many customers often paying as much as $500 for a session and prints. They've been doing this for many years. What do their photographers use? Typically an inexpensive Olympus with a pocket wizard.

Anyone with a D3 -- or even less of a camera -- does not REQUIRE a D3X simply because a competitor has one. I recently booked what I consider a small job for $6,000. For that I will use two D3's. Even with decent income from prosperous clients, I am not going to waste funding when a very capable camera such as the D3 can deliver excellent results at no extra cost.
 
bloomoose said:
To me you sound like those whining amateurs who make real
professionals like Martin stay away from dpreview ...

Still amusing the heated debate with people who won´t buy a D3X in
the near future ;)
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Well given that I did NOT address any of your posts and the fact that you have NO clue as to whether I'll be buying a D3X or not your post is quite interesting. Basically it tells me that you'll take on anyone who dares to suggest that the D3X is (OMG!) possibly superior than the system that you bought into, or anyone who dares to challenge a post stating categorically that the new Nikon brings a "meager increase in IQ". I can't blame you for seeking validation for your choice. However there is no thorough, competent and definitive comparison between the D3X and the 5D2 or A900. The canon posters are all over a thread about the D3X vs 5D2 @ 6400 ISO, for god's sake. This when the D3X is advertised as performing up to 1600! Totally ridiculous. Fact is no one has a comprehensive review out of the D3X and yet people like you and many others are so ready to say it's barely better than the A900 or 5D2, if at all.

Until the D3X is properly (fairly) evaluated, every comparison is pure speculation and opinion. And we all know what they say about opinions...
 
The D3X definitely is the superior camera. I never questioned that, look at my posting history. If you buy one, I am absolutely happy for you.

I just had to bash you a little for being so rude ;)
And, yes, I would do it again devilishgrin

vqro wrote:
Basically it tells me that you'll take on
vqro said:
anyone who dares to suggest that the D3X is (OMG!) possibly superior
than the system that you bought into
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Thanks to them Nikons can manufacture top-end cameras in much larger quantities. And it lets the price go down sooner.
Martin Datzinger said:
Lawyers, doctors, businessmen. All seeking for the newest toy with
the big megapixel count and the really big pricetag. Simply put:
Snobs! And what's so wrong about being a bit rude every now and then?
I like to watch Jeremy Clarkson and Dr. House explicitly because of
their rudeness!

Kind regards, (yeah, really!)
Martin

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Call police if you see stock analysts, hedgefonds managers, etc. :) Thieves place is in the prison.
Martin Datzinger said:
I don't have a problem with people with more money, except if they
steal it from others (e.g. stock analysts, hedgefonds managers,
systematically admonishing lawyers, etc.). A good friend of mine has
got quite a lot of money, but he has a very good attitude, sharing
the fun that can come with money with others.

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It seems possible that labeling buyers as "snobs" is a succinct way of saying that they are people with money who don't really know what they are doing. Also, some people feel that no one should buy anything unless they will use it to make money because they help to inflate the price that pros will need to pay in order to earn a living.

There may be a grain of truth in each assertion, but if the people with money didn't buy the new gear would the manufacturers be able to produce it at the rate they do? And with a smaller market, wouldn't prices be higher rather than lower?

It may be that some have the opinion that only pros know how to use pro equipment and only pros need pro equipment, and that therefore it is wrong for amateurs to buy pro equipment, but I hope they find a way to cool off before they get ulcers. The amateurs are people too, and I don't see a strong case to be made that they hurt the pros.

I admit that I am an amateur, and that using the D3 well is a challenge for me. But it does allow me to make images that I cannot make with my D200 or D80.

After saying all that I must add that the original post seemed harmless, and that the flames seem out of proportion.
 
The pre order list for the 5d MKII at Calumet is about 50 times the size of the waiting list for the D3X. The 5d MKII is selling VERY well.
Martin Datzinger said:
A friend of mine was at Calumet Munich today. They sold of D3Xs by
the dozen. Mostly to snobs (for which the early adopters price is
perfectly set), very few pro photographers. During the same time only
a single 5D II was sold.

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Martin

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Hope you're right, but the economic downturn may play a role here. Let's hope the camera makers don't suffer too much (but the news is not very encouraging).
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rhlpetrus said:
Matt_Anderson said:
per my sales guy, more so the 5DMKII.

D3X surprises me.

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Not me, from the start I've been saying there's a market for such a
camera, Nikon will recover R&D costs, sell lots of lenses along the
way (new zooms, in particular), then launch the D700x. My bet: Aug
2009.

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Little worried here, is it common for Calumet to hand over this kind of info to anyone who asks? you dont have my sales coy with CC# on it do you?
cameraman12 said:
Martin Datzinger said:
A friend of mine was at Calumet Munich today. They sold of D3Xs by
the dozen. Mostly to snobs (for which the early adopters price is
perfectly set), very few pro photographers. During the same time only
a single 5D II was sold.

Kind regards,
Martin

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Actually, I am agreeing with you. That was precisely the point I was trying to make. You buy equipment to meet your business needs. Sorry, I was not so clear. I work part time, and the combination of the D700 and D300 seem to be an ideal combination for the type of work I get.

Interesting nugget about Glamor Shots. I had never been in one, and had no idea of what they use.
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Hi Pam, I see why you like the micro Nikkor, the picture you posted is very nice. When you say new, hasn't it been out for some time, the 60 2.8G-ED? Thanks
 
No idea,

I do not care less either, I'm not using Canon or working for it..however.

You might be able to understand that Nikon has to pay a lot of royalties :-) for using the Sony core sensor design and production usage. Besides all of this: If I was Sony I would demand from Nikon that the selling of the camera comes not in conflict with that of the A900 :-) ...Nikon made sure by putting the camera in a whole diffrent league, by means of quality and rsulting by all of this in a higher price.

Michel
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How many 5DMK2's may Canon have to sell to make the same profit Nikon
makes from one D3X?

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