Photoshop CS3 to CS4, what to do with old copy?

When you purchase an upgrade to a newer version of Photoshop, can you gift your hard copy of the previous version to someone, or will they run into trouble using the serial number needed to get the upgrade you just bought?

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SolInvict said:

When you purchase an upgrade to a newer version of Photoshop, can you
gift your hard copy of the previous version to someone, or will they
run into trouble using the serial number needed to get the upgrade
you just bought?

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The thing is, you don't "buy" a copy of anything from Adobe. What you have in Photoshop is a "license to use" the software on your machine.

When you relinquish that license to upgrade to a new version, Adobe allows a concessionary price on the update. The license to use is transferred across as part of the deal.

So....

1) You don't posses anything you could sell, because you didn't own it in the first place.

2) Now that you have transferred the license to use, not only can you not sell the old version, you can't even GIVE it away.....

..... at least not without annoying Adobe more than somewhat when the new user tries to register.... and without registration it won't work!!

So yes, the new user will run into trouble.... although Adobe may make the trouble go away on payment of a fee.... [??]
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Speaking from a physical media perspective you will need to have the old media if you wish to install the software again on the same machine or other machine.

Upgrade software will ask for a verification of the older full software.
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I Upgraded to CS4 from 3, does this mean I can't take 3 and transfer it to my portable computer?

Aslo, "Dactivation?" What's that mean? Was thinking about doing this, deleting from my desk top and installing on my portable??

I'm confused?

Mikeobe said:

I Upgraded to CS4 from 3, does this mean I can't take 3 and transfer
it to my portable computer?

Aslo, "Dactivation?" What's that mean? Was thinking about doing this,
deleting from my desk top and installing on my portable??

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The standard license allows you to install Photoshop on two machines, say desktop and laptop, but you are not allowed to use both at the same time...

..... (myself, I only have the ONE pair of hands and eyes, so I haven't found the restriction to be much of a problem!)
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Andres said:

Speaking from a physical media perspective you will need to have the
old media if you wish to install the software again on the same
machine or other machine.

Upgrade software will ask for a verification of the older full software.

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Yes. I'd forgotten about that. You will be obliged to have the old disk available, if ever you need to do a re-install.
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"The standard license allows you to install Photoshop on two machines, say desktop and laptop, but you are not allowed to use both at the same time... "

Huh? So I can install 4 on my laptop and desk? How in the Hell is anyone going to know if I have them both on at the same time?? That blows my mind??

And Deactivation?? Should I be doing that with 3 and deleting from my desk top?

If both machines are on the internet, then using multiple copies will be detected as PS talks to Adobe over the internet when possible. I've accidentally had this happen a couple of times.
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Leon Wittwer said:

If both machines are on the internet, then using multiple copies will
be detected as PS talks to Adobe over the internet when possible.
I've accidentally had this happen a couple of times.

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Just curious. How did you know this happened, and were there consequences? Did the Adobe police call you and ask you why you were using Photoshop on two computers simultaneously? Personally I think the way it works is that your computer's MAC address (network adapter hardware address) is logged by their server at the time of activation. If they tried to monitor the use of their products, they would run into all kinds of firewall issues. Here is what Adobe says on their website:

"A single-user retail license activation supports two computers. For example, you can install the product on a desktop computer at work and on a laptop computer at home. If you want to install the software on a third computer, first deactivate it on one of the other two computers. Choose Help > Deactivate."

I really don't think there is anything to worry about as far as Adobe checking up on how you're using your activated copies of Photoshop. I have used Photoshop on two computers (laptop and desktop) for years without any issues... including CS4. I usually don't run them at the same time, because if I'm at home I'm more likely to use the faster desktop computer for Photoshop, but sometimes I do work from the laptop while my desktop computer is still on with Photoshop open. Now there have been a time or two when I've run a batch process in Photoshop on the desktop while using Photoshop to edit an image on my laptop. Is that bad? I think not.

Sean

Ok, OK, I'm going to show my Stuuu Pidity for all to see! Please, "Don't Taze Me Bro!"

Over the internet?? Don't understand?? Photoshop? I wouldn't be using both at the same time whether on or off the net, and really don't see that I'd install or use it on a protable anyway, was just curious??

My main concern was having 3 & 4 both installed, doesn't this or couldn't it cause a conflict or sloow down your puter??

Mikeobe said:

Mikeobe wrote:
Ok, OK, I'm going to show my Stuuu Pidity for all to see! Please,
"Don't Taze Me Bro!"

Over the internet?? Don't understand?? Photoshop? I wouldn't be
using both at the same time whether on or off the net, and really
don't see that I'd install or use it on a protable anyway, was just
curious??

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If you have a broadband connection, you are, in effect, always on , so many software companies like MS & Adobe, Hp, etc. can do automatic updates & such unless you're set things up otw. Consequently, they could check the status of PS activity up to a point, I guess.

Mikeobe said:

My main concern was having 3 & 4 both installed, doesn't this or
couldn't it cause a conflict or sloow down your puter??

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It won't slow things down unless you decide to run both CS3 & CS4 concurrently (why would you do that?) which would definitely put a load on resources. OTOH I always remove program the previous version of Photoshop (I usually update every 2 versions) to free up space, using Settings/Control Panel/ Add-Remove programs.

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and deny access...stupid to let eveything call out

I don't believe that. I loaded pS onto my laptop as a second copy with help from Adoby's helpline. I have bothe compters on daily and use either for web use so bothe will be live on the web and they haven't contacted me. They know the ins and outs of having two computers and it is good that an owner of PS can use it on both platforms. but servers informing Adobe...no way.
jules

Leon Wittwer said:

If both machines are on the internet, then using multiple copies will
be detected as PS talks to Adobe over the internet when possible.
I've accidentally had this happen a couple of times.
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http://homepage.mac.com/leonwittwer/landscapes.htm

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I resemble that remark!!

Broadband, Duh, Oh yea!! OOPS!

Thanks for the Help!!

First there is a code written into Photoshop that allows you to install and activate PS a certain amount of times, and if you exceed that number then you run into problems where you have to call Adobe to resolve these issues, i.e. failure to boot, crashes, lock-ups, etc. These issues also are not resolved through unistalling, you actually have to get Adobe's help.

Second there is nothing wrong with having multiple versions of PS on your computer, I'm currently running CS2, CS3 and CS4. Why? One I don't use them all at the same time, but often will switch between versions as I feel the need for certain features, past projects etc. Also because of certain let's say "bug" issues with CS3 and CS4 and certain tools I'll go to a previous version when working on a deadline to save aggrivation. Just go to the Adobe web site, support, forums, photoshop, pick either MAC or PC and you'll see the numerous posts about issues, and also the number of people that have multiple versions on their machines.

Third if you decide to de-activate and uninstall a previous version you have to be extremely careful in the process, especially with related files, or else you WILL mess up your upgrade.

Fourth if you are concerned about space, and if you can, add a hard drive to store your images, and for a scratch disk and just use your main HD for apps.

Lastly if you are running low on HD space now, and if you are low on RAM I would not install CS4 till you resolve those issues because CS4 is the worst PS version ever for hogging resources, and you need a good video card with this version. Again go to the abode site and just read through many of the posts. Here is the link to get you to the page where you have to choose between MAC or PC:

http://www.adobeforums.com/cgi-bin/webx/.3bbf2764/

As a previous poster indicated you do not own your software, but rather are granted a license to use. With that in mind to reinforce what was said earlier you can't give your version of CS3 to someone else to use without some potential problems for you, if you have to re-install, and for the other person to install and then activate and register with the same serial number.

You can search and read, but to post you have to join, it's free, and you can get alot of good advise, and you can get a lot of lets say "know it alls" You'll leran who the good resources are very soon. Also Adobe Photoshop personnel, NOT THE HELP DESK people monitor and often will join in and offer help, ask you to send them your problems and will work with you. Good Luck.

Well, that's not exactly true. EULA's cannot override local law. Even if Adobe says "you can't sell/make a copy (for yourself) this piece of CD to someone else because we say so", it doesn't mean anything if the local legislation allows it. Especially in the case of copying the install-cd. There has actually been some serious conversations about legality of EULA-terms in Finland some time back.

Kermi said:

Well, that's not exactly true. EULA's cannot override local law. Even
if Adobe says "you can't sell this piece of CD to someone else
because we say so", it doesn't mean anything if the local legislation
doesn't forbid ít.

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Nothing we say can ever be guaranteed as exactly true in all circumstances, Kermi, including this comment...
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Well true

Anyhow, i just edited the previous post a little bit. But it's bit misleading by the software companies to try to dictate that their EULA is the ultimate law on what you can do with the item you've paid good money for.

its not law.

its SIMPLY a company flexing its muscles and scaring customers.

they have bigger lawyers so they'll likely win but its NOT because they are right - is simply a case of having more 'might'.

shrink wrap EULAS are not enforceable even though adobe et al thinks they are.

if your locality allows backing up your media or whatever, adobe can't override local laws.

Kermi said:

Well true

Anyhow, i just edited the previous post a little bit. But it's bit
misleading by the software companies to try to dictate that their
EULA is the ultimate law on what you can do with the item you've paid
good money for.

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