where is Nikons DX P&S

for that matter why is sigma the only one with one out (there was the sony R1 and the panasonic G1 kinda)

looking of any new rumors flying around.

I have had the $$ for a DX P&S for some time and I am about to give up. I might end up getting the DP1 but, I will wait and see if nikon/or any one else can give some competition to sigma to drive the price down on the DP1.
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ItsaChris said:

I have had the $$ for a DX P&S for some time and I am about to give
up. I might end up getting the DP1 but, I will wait and see if
nikon/or any one else can give some competition to sigma to drive the
price down on the DP1.

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You might want to wait for the Olympus micro four thirds compact camera. It will probably ship with wide pancake prime similar to the DP1, but you will be able to put other lenses on it as well.

I would love it if Nikon came out with an APS compact camera. I think they would do well if they released a compact EVIL camera with a series of pancake primes and a compact zoom. If the lens mount needs to be smaller they could do what Panasonic and Olympus have done and release an adapter ring for existing Nikon DSLR lenses.

Then again... it's not like a D40 or D60 is that big. Certainly larger than a DP1 though... and larger than an Olympus micro four thirds camera as well. For quite some time I was looking for an everyday camera alternative to my Nikon D200 kit. I've had a string of compact P&S cameras that all disappoint. My current compact is a Panasonic DMC-LX2, which is a nice little camera with a disappointing sensor. I may upgrade it to the LX3, but so far I haven't bothered. After carrying the LX2 with me pretty much everywhere for a year or so, I realized that it is rarely in my jacket or coat pocket. It's usually in the shoulder bag I sometimes take to work, or in the handlebar bag of my bicycle (which I often ride to work). I realized that my DSLR would easily fit into the same bags as long as I use a small lens or two, so I started carrying my old D70 with a 35mm f/2 and sometimes with another prime or small zoom. I even bought a small camera bag that is just big enough for my D70 or D200 with a lens attached and another small lens (Domke F-5xb) to carry when I don't want to haul around my full size shoulder kit-bag. Of course a D60 with 18-55 would be even smaller and lighter, but it still won't fit in a jacket pocket for those times when you just don't want to carry anything.

Anyway... my LX2 is rarely used these days. I don't know whether to upgrade it, or sell it along with my D70 body so I can buy a D60 for times when my D200 is a bit much. I may also wait to see what comes down the pike from Olympus, Nikon, etc. The Panasonic G1 is intriguing for it's articulating LCD...I would love it with the pancake prime; but the downside is that it isn't compatible with any of my Nikon lenses.

Sean

Ya as cool as the micro 4/3 is I dont want to get into a 3rd different mount.

The DP1 has been looking better and better (but still cost to much). I found more information on it and the lens is sharper then the 15-30 zoom on the SD-14. http://www.pbase.com/sigmadslr/image/100141542

too bad IQ is not the be all end all for cameras.
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You know those little tiny sensors seem to still satisfy most users and I get the feeling the companies realise this. What's worse is many compact users still don't think DX sensors are any better, remember a couple of years back when compact users thought and would post that DX type cameras were worse. It will be nice to see a DX/FX compact, though the m4/3 may be a better bet, but there don't seem to be much urgency about the matter.

Mike

I guess there just isn't the broad-based market for it. We're going to keep getting warmed-over 'performance' compacts like the P6000.

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Michael Oersigh said:

You know those little tiny sensors seem to still satisfy most users
and I get the feeling the companies realise this. What's worse is
many compact users still don't think DX sensors are any better,
remember a couple of years back when compact users thought and would
post that DX type cameras were worse.

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I don't know... the huge boom in entry-level DSLR sales suggests that many compact users do realize that larger sensors provide better image quality...especially if they shoot at high ISOs. The Oly/Pano take is that there are still many more who want to move up to the next level in image quality, but are put off by the size and complexity of even the smallest entry-level DSLR cameras.

Member said:

It will be nice to see a DX/FX
compact, though the m4/3 may be a better bet, but there don't seem to
be much urgency about the matter.

Mike

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There certainly doesn't seem to be much urgency on the matter from Nikon... unless they are still playing some cards close to their chest (and they often do). They seem to think (and maybe they are correct) that gee-whiz features like touch-screen LCDs will sell more compact P&S cameras than having the best image quality. They definitely concentrate their best efforts on their DSLR cameras and lenses.

But Panasonic and Olympus are putting some serious effort behind micro four thirds, so they obviously feel that small EVIL cameras will become the format many or most people want. And maybe they are right. The question is whether Nikon and others will take a wait and see approach, or try to compete before micro four thirds becomes the huge hit Pan/Oly hope it will become.

Sean

sean000 said:

The Oly/Pano
take is that there are still many more who want to move up to the
next level in image quality, but are put off by the size and
complexity of even the smallest entry-level DSLR cameras.

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And I suspect that there are even more who want to get rid of their unwieldy DSLRs and get something neater. Legions of buyers now have a cheap DSLR with just a kit lens, and many of them would probably prefer something smaller and lighter if it were available. The financial crisis may put a brake on this trend, though.

It will be really interesting (for a change) to see what Oly and Pana present at PMA, and whether other manufacturers have something up their sleeve.
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Thom Hogan had alluded to the information that Nikon had been sending out surveys in the past, asking folks what they thought about an APS sensor-based point and shoot. Well, apparently the input was predominantly favorable, so Nikon is rumored to be working on this type of camera. Of course, with no leaks, we are left to our own speculations.

But the fact is that this type of camera is possible - perfectly possible. Heck, if Sigma could do it with the DP-1 (which is a superb camera, by the way), then Nikon can surely put out a P series of camera featuring a D60 type of sensor.

I am looking forward to this because regardless of what some may say, there is a strong desire among many P&S users, for an advanced digicam that rivals the DSLR's. Now will it sell in the hundreds of thousands....? Who knows, because if it's more expensive than a DSLR (i.e. D40 and D60), then that may cause some just to pick up the DSLR.

I for one would surely pick one up - mannnn, have you seen my point and shoot collection on my profile? But then I'm a certified international camera slut!
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