S2, What did Fuji do???

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OK, I have had my S2 for just over a week now. While I have gotten some really nice images, I am still not sure what's up with this camera.

I was shooting an agility trial over the weekend. I had the camera set to 800ISO...I was mostly shooting in manual from around 1/1000-1500 at f11-16, with my prime Nikkor 70-200 2.8 lens. I was shooting at single servo, with the focus weighted to the center, Res was set to either 4256 or 3024 (switched, to see if that might be the problem). I swaped the color & tone around to see if different combos might help. The meter was center weighted. Both Saturday & Sunday were nice SUNNY days, with few clouds in the sky to affect pretty much nothing photographically speaking.

My problem is.....I am STILL catching movement blur! For example, the face is sharp, but the feet are blurred, which isn't a bad thing, but if vice versa, it's a huge problem. I know I could shoot at much less with my S1, or on film and stop action. These dogs were not moving faster than dogs at previous trials. I was also having trouble getting my shots sharp, I like tack sharp images. It seems the depth of field is off...I should have a HUGE depth of field with such small aperture settings, but I only have a few inches of depth. I am not sure what to think or do at this point....Do I go back to my S1, or continue trying to deal with the S2? I really love all the flexability the S2 has to offer. It's a much nicer camera than the S1. Although I prefer the S1 ISO switching to the S2.

I printed out several photos On Satuday night, to deliver on Sunday. I also printed several other shots too, just too play around a bit. I must say, I didn't hear a single negative word about the photos, even though I was not 100% happy with them. As a matter of fact, I was getting MORE compliments than ever! People REALLY loved what they saw come out of this camera. I do have people who think they know photography sometime challenge me for using digital, and get very picky about my images, but not this weekend.

I can live with some blown out highlights (S1), I can even tolerate the cyan/green bias the S2 has, that can be fixed easy enough in PS. But I am having issues with an unsharp image (S2).

--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 
Hi Alissa,
I have to be honest with everybody here at this Forum:

I'm very concerned for this camera (S2), I will get mine in middle August, but in the meanwhile I just keep reading problems about it.

First the Moire effect and then the jagging on the lines, and as if it wasn't enough now every thread seems to deal with unsharp problems somehow.
I'm really scared.

I think I could handle the jagged edges on lines and the moire, but certanly I expect sharp images form this expensive camera.

Ciao
Danilo

http://www.danilopiccioni.com
OK, I have had my S2 for just over a week now. While I have gotten
some really nice images, I am still not sure what's up with this
camera.

I was shooting an agility trial over the weekend. I had the camera
set to 800ISO...I was mostly shooting in manual from around
1/1000-1500 at f11-16, with my prime Nikkor 70-200 2.8 lens. I was
shooting at single servo, with the focus weighted to the center,
Res was set to either 4256 or 3024 (switched, to see if that might
be the problem). I swaped the color & tone around to see if
different combos might help. The meter was center weighted. Both
Saturday & Sunday were nice SUNNY days, with few clouds in the sky
to affect pretty much nothing photographically speaking.

My problem is.....I am STILL catching movement blur! For example,
the face is sharp, but the feet are blurred, which isn't a bad
thing, but if vice versa, it's a huge problem. I know I could shoot
at much less with my S1, or on film and stop action. These dogs
were not moving faster than dogs at previous trials. I was also
having trouble getting my shots sharp, I like tack sharp images. It
seems the depth of field is off...I should have a HUGE depth of
field with such small aperture settings, but I only have a few
inches of depth. I am not sure what to think or do at this
point....Do I go back to my S1, or continue trying to deal with the
S2? I really love all the flexability the S2 has to offer. It's a
much nicer camera than the S1. Although I prefer the S1 ISO
switching to the S2.

I printed out several photos On Satuday night, to deliver on
Sunday. I also printed several other shots too, just too play
around a bit. I must say, I didn't hear a single negative word
about the photos, even though I was not 100% happy with them. As a
matter of fact, I was getting MORE compliments than ever! People
REALLY loved what they saw come out of this camera. I do have
people who think they know photography sometime challenge me for
using digital, and get very picky about my images, but not this
weekend.

I can live with some blown out highlights (S1), I can even tolerate
the cyan/green bias the S2 has, that can be fixed easy enough in
PS. But I am having issues with an unsharp image (S2).

--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
--
http://www.danilopiccioni.com
 
I believe depth of field is governed by the lens and aperature only.

So if you're getting small depth of field, then the aperature simply isn't small enough, maybe the camera is faulty and is lying about the aperature it's using? Maybe the aperature is stuck wide open?

.Ray
OK, I have had my S2 for just over a week now. While I have gotten
some really nice images, I am still not sure what's up with this
camera.

I was shooting an agility trial over the weekend. I had the camera
set to 800ISO...I was mostly shooting in manual from around
1/1000-1500 at f11-16, with my prime Nikkor 70-200 2.8 lens. I was
shooting at single servo, with the focus weighted to the center,
Res was set to either 4256 or 3024 (switched, to see if that might
be the problem). I swaped the color & tone around to see if
different combos might help. The meter was center weighted. Both
Saturday & Sunday were nice SUNNY days, with few clouds in the sky
to affect pretty much nothing photographically speaking.

My problem is.....I am STILL catching movement blur! For example,
the face is sharp, but the feet are blurred, which isn't a bad
thing, but if vice versa, it's a huge problem. I know I could shoot
at much less with my S1, or on film and stop action. These dogs
were not moving faster than dogs at previous trials. I was also
having trouble getting my shots sharp, I like tack sharp images. It
seems the depth of field is off...I should have a HUGE depth of
field with such small aperture settings, but I only have a few
inches of depth. I am not sure what to think or do at this
point....Do I go back to my S1, or continue trying to deal with the
S2? I really love all the flexability the S2 has to offer. It's a
much nicer camera than the S1. Although I prefer the S1 ISO
switching to the S2.

I printed out several photos On Satuday night, to deliver on
Sunday. I also printed several other shots too, just too play
around a bit. I must say, I didn't hear a single negative word
about the photos, even though I was not 100% happy with them. As a
matter of fact, I was getting MORE compliments than ever! People
REALLY loved what they saw come out of this camera. I do have
people who think they know photography sometime challenge me for
using digital, and get very picky about my images, but not this
weekend.

I can live with some blown out highlights (S1), I can even tolerate
the cyan/green bias the S2 has, that can be fixed easy enough in
PS. But I am having issues with an unsharp image (S2).

--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 
Without providing samples, it is hard for people to give the correct advoice on what might be wrong. Is it possible to provide a couple pointing out what you are referring to?
OK, I have had my S2 for just over a week now. While I have gotten
some really nice images, I am still not sure what's up with this
camera.

I was shooting an agility trial over the weekend. I had the camera
set to 800ISO...I was mostly shooting in manual from around
1/1000-1500 at f11-16, with my prime Nikkor 70-200 2.8 lens. I was
shooting at single servo, with the focus weighted to the center,
Res was set to either 4256 or 3024 (switched, to see if that might
be the problem). I swaped the color & tone around to see if
different combos might help. The meter was center weighted. Both
Saturday & Sunday were nice SUNNY days, with few clouds in the sky
to affect pretty much nothing photographically speaking.

My problem is.....I am STILL catching movement blur! For example,
the face is sharp, but the feet are blurred, which isn't a bad
thing, but if vice versa, it's a huge problem. I know I could shoot
at much less with my S1, or on film and stop action. These dogs
were not moving faster than dogs at previous trials. I was also
having trouble getting my shots sharp, I like tack sharp images. It
seems the depth of field is off...I should have a HUGE depth of
field with such small aperture settings, but I only have a few
inches of depth. I am not sure what to think or do at this
point....Do I go back to my S1, or continue trying to deal with the
S2? I really love all the flexability the S2 has to offer. It's a
much nicer camera than the S1. Although I prefer the S1 ISO
switching to the S2.

I printed out several photos On Satuday night, to deliver on
Sunday. I also printed several other shots too, just too play
around a bit. I must say, I didn't hear a single negative word
about the photos, even though I was not 100% happy with them. As a
matter of fact, I was getting MORE compliments than ever! People
REALLY loved what they saw come out of this camera. I do have
people who think they know photography sometime challenge me for
using digital, and get very picky about my images, but not this
weekend.

I can live with some blown out highlights (S1), I can even tolerate
the cyan/green bias the S2 has, that can be fixed easy enough in
PS. But I am having issues with an unsharp image (S2).

--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 
THe reason why I'm so scared is that when I'll finally get my S2 I'll be in Quebec for a vacation that I was planning from years, I will use this brand new piece of equipment for my photo memeories of this travel for the very first time there.

I'm sure it will take me sometimes to get use to know it, and I will not have with me a PC to find out if the pictures I' ve been taking are blurred or not.
When I will be back in Italy and I will find out, it may be too late.
And I will never forgive myself, then!

It would be very nice if all I was reading were good reviews about how easy to use and what beautiful images the Fuji S2 is able to deliver right out of the camera.

Oh well!!

Alissa,
please if you find out why you are experinceing these problems let me know.

Ciao from Rome.
I think I could handle the jagged edges on lines and the moire, but
certanly I expect sharp images form this expensive camera.

Ciao
Danilo

http://www.danilopiccioni.com
Hi Danilo!
I couldn't agree more!

--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
--
http://www.danilopiccioni.com
 
Without providing samples, it is hard for people to give the
correct advoice on what might be wrong. Is it possible to provide a
couple pointing out what you are referring to?
Try my web site...www.pet-personalities.com

Anything with dates after July 5th were shot with the S2. The most recent shots were from this past weekend. They are small files for quick viewing, but I think you should be able to see what I am talking about, maybe.

My lens is new, bought it in Feb of this year. I haven't had this trouble with the S1. It's not just the 70-200, but all my lenses. I don't think they all went bad at the same time....My other newest lens that is not sharp on this camera is my 18-35 Nikkor, which I purchased in April. I also have a 35-70 which is several years old....like 15 at least. I have also tried my 60 Micro. You can't tell me all my lenses are off!

The prints off the S2 aren't as bad as they appear on the screen, but they just don't seem right. It's hard to say exactly what's going on with them, except they seem to be soft in focus, and DoF seems wrong for the aperture they were shot at. I am not shooting static images, all that I shoot is moving, but I have not had this trouble before, which is what concerns me. Don't get me wrong...I have somehow gotten some really nice images, but mostly I'm getting soft pics.
--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 
Alissa- This is worrisom, of course. It almost sounds like the camera is not setting either shutter speed or aperture correctly. Have you double checked the lens on another body? ....Peter
OK, I have had my S2 for just over a week now. While I have gotten
some really nice images, I am still not sure what's up with this
camera.

I was shooting an agility trial over the weekend. I had the camera
set to 800ISO...I was mostly shooting in manual from around
1/1000-1500 at f11-16, with my prime Nikkor 70-200 2.8 lens. I was
shooting at single servo, with the focus weighted to the center,
Res was set to either 4256 or 3024 (switched, to see if that might
be the problem). I swaped the color & tone around to see if
different combos might help. The meter was center weighted. Both
Saturday & Sunday were nice SUNNY days, with few clouds in the sky
to affect pretty much nothing photographically speaking.

My problem is.....I am STILL catching movement blur! For example,
the face is sharp, but the feet are blurred, which isn't a bad
thing, but if vice versa, it's a huge problem. I know I could shoot
at much less with my S1, or on film and stop action. These dogs
were not moving faster than dogs at previous trials. I was also
having trouble getting my shots sharp, I like tack sharp images. It
seems the depth of field is off...I should have a HUGE depth of
field with such small aperture settings, but I only have a few
inches of depth. I am not sure what to think or do at this
point....Do I go back to my S1, or continue trying to deal with the
S2? I really love all the flexability the S2 has to offer. It's a
much nicer camera than the S1. Although I prefer the S1 ISO
switching to the S2.

I printed out several photos On Satuday night, to deliver on
Sunday. I also printed several other shots too, just too play
around a bit. I must say, I didn't hear a single negative word
about the photos, even though I was not 100% happy with them. As a
matter of fact, I was getting MORE compliments than ever! People
REALLY loved what they saw come out of this camera. I do have
people who think they know photography sometime challenge me for
using digital, and get very picky about my images, but not this
weekend.

I can live with some blown out highlights (S1), I can even tolerate
the cyan/green bias the S2 has, that can be fixed easy enough in
PS. But I am having issues with an unsharp image (S2).

--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 
Alissa,

At the sizes you have in your site it is not possible to appreciate your problem. In any case it does not make much sense that the camera may
outfocus part of the frame.
Is the weight of the S2 different to what you where using before?
Can it be that the balance with your lenses is quite different?

Regards
Raul
Without providing samples, it is hard for people to give the
correct advoice on what might be wrong. Is it possible to provide a
couple pointing out what you are referring to?
Try my web site...www.pet-personalities.com

Anything with dates after July 5th were shot with the S2. The most
recent shots were from this past weekend. They are small files for
quick viewing, but I think you should be able to see what I am
talking about, maybe.

My lens is new, bought it in Feb of this year. I haven't had this
trouble with the S1. It's not just the 70-200, but all my lenses. I
don't think they all went bad at the same time....My other newest
lens that is not sharp on this camera is my 18-35 Nikkor, which I
purchased in April. I also have a 35-70 which is several years
old....like 15 at least. I have also tried my 60 Micro. You can't
tell me all my lenses are off!

The prints off the S2 aren't as bad as they appear on the screen,
but they just don't seem right. It's hard to say exactly what's
going on with them, except they seem to be soft in focus, and DoF
seems wrong for the aperture they were shot at. I am not shooting
static images, all that I shoot is moving, but I have not had this
trouble before, which is what concerns me. Don't get me wrong...I
have somehow gotten some really nice images, but mostly I'm getting
soft pics.
--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 
Alissa,
At the sizes you have in your site it is not possible to appreciate
your problem. In any case it does not make much sense that the
camera may
outfocus part of the frame.
Hi Raul,

I will try to get a larger image on line later today...I have lots of work to do right now, so I don't have time to tie up my computer uploading a large file right now.
Is the weight of the S2 different to what you where using before?
Can it be that the balance with your lenses is quite different?
This is an interesting observation....I haven't noticed a huge difference in the way the camera feels, from the S1. I am using all the same lenses as I was on the S1. I am pretty used to that 3lb lens on my camera! I mostly sit on the ground, I usually prop my left elbow on my left knee to help stabliize when I am shooting. I don't like a monopod or tripod, for what I do.
Regards
Raul
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 
OK, I have had my S2 for just over a week now. While I have gotten
some really nice images, I am still not sure what's up with this
camera.

I was shooting an agility trial over the weekend. I had the camera
set to 800ISO...I was mostly shooting in manual from around
1/1000-1500 at f11-16, with my prime Nikkor 70-200 2.8 lens. I was
shooting at single servo, with the focus weighted to the center,
Res was set to either 4256 or 3024 (switched, to see if that might
be the problem). I swaped the color & tone around to see if
different combos might help. The meter was center weighted. Both
Saturday & Sunday were nice SUNNY days, with few clouds in the sky
to affect pretty much nothing photographically speaking.

My problem is.....I am STILL catching movement blur! For example,
the face is sharp, but the feet are blurred, which isn't a bad
thing, but if vice versa, it's a huge problem. I know I could shoot
at much less with my S1, or on film and stop action. These dogs
were not moving faster than dogs at previous trials. I was also
having trouble getting my shots sharp, I like tack sharp images. It
seems the depth of field is off...I should have a HUGE depth of
field with such small aperture settings, but I only have a few
inches of depth. I am not sure what to think or do at this
point....Do I go back to my S1, or continue trying to deal with the
S2? I really love all the flexability the S2 has to offer. It's a
much nicer camera than the S1. Although I prefer the S1 ISO
switching to the S2.

I printed out several photos On Satuday night, to deliver on
Sunday. I also printed several other shots too, just too play
around a bit. I must say, I didn't hear a single negative word
about the photos, even though I was not 100% happy with them. As a
matter of fact, I was getting MORE compliments than ever! People
REALLY loved what they saw come out of this camera. I do have
people who think they know photography sometime challenge me for
using digital, and get very picky about my images, but not this
weekend.

I can live with some blown out highlights (S1), I can even tolerate
the cyan/green bias the S2 has, that can be fixed easy enough in
PS. But I am having issues with an unsharp image (S2).

--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
--

Also, review the frame data to see if the settings are what you thought they were. It could be that the camera is not setting the lens as you thought it was.

Jim DeLuco
DeLuco Photography
http://www.delucophoto.com
 
Alissa- and...have you tried manually setting the aperture and comparing the result to the same aperture set by camera?....Peter
OK, I have had my S2 for just over a week now. While I have gotten
some really nice images, I am still not sure what's up with this
camera.

I was shooting an agility trial over the weekend. I had the camera
set to 800ISO...I was mostly shooting in manual from around
1/1000-1500 at f11-16, with my prime Nikkor 70-200 2.8 lens. I was
shooting at single servo, with the focus weighted to the center,
Res was set to either 4256 or 3024 (switched, to see if that might
be the problem). I swaped the color & tone around to see if
different combos might help. The meter was center weighted. Both
Saturday & Sunday were nice SUNNY days, with few clouds in the sky
to affect pretty much nothing photographically speaking.

My problem is.....I am STILL catching movement blur! For example,
the face is sharp, but the feet are blurred, which isn't a bad
thing, but if vice versa, it's a huge problem. I know I could shoot
at much less with my S1, or on film and stop action. These dogs
were not moving faster than dogs at previous trials. I was also
having trouble getting my shots sharp, I like tack sharp images. It
seems the depth of field is off...I should have a HUGE depth of
field with such small aperture settings, but I only have a few
inches of depth. I am not sure what to think or do at this
point....Do I go back to my S1, or continue trying to deal with the
S2? I really love all the flexability the S2 has to offer. It's a
much nicer camera than the S1. Although I prefer the S1 ISO
switching to the S2.

I printed out several photos On Satuday night, to deliver on
Sunday. I also printed several other shots too, just too play
around a bit. I must say, I didn't hear a single negative word
about the photos, even though I was not 100% happy with them. As a
matter of fact, I was getting MORE compliments than ever! People
REALLY loved what they saw come out of this camera. I do have
people who think they know photography sometime challenge me for
using digital, and get very picky about my images, but not this
weekend.

I can live with some blown out highlights (S1), I can even tolerate
the cyan/green bias the S2 has, that can be fixed easy enough in
PS. But I am having issues with an unsharp image (S2).

--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
--
Also, review the frame data to see if the settings are what you
thought they were. It could be that the camera is not setting the
lens as you thought it was.

Jim DeLuco
DeLuco Photography
http://www.delucophoto.com
 
Alissa,

One thought is trying one of the auto exposure modes (S/A/P) only to try to isolate the pblm. Otherwise, I'd call Fuji. It maybe your camera is faulty.

I'll try manual on my S2 this afternoon with my Nikkor 80-200 at my daughter's horse riding lessons. I'll let you know what I find tomorrow. (Maybe I'll send an example). I'll try around 1/1000-1500 at f11-16.

Ed F
OK, I have had my S2 for just over a week now. While I have gotten
some really nice images, I am still not sure what's up with this
camera.

I was shooting an agility trial over the weekend. I had the camera
set to 800ISO...I was mostly shooting in manual from around
1/1000-1500 at f11-16, with my prime Nikkor 70-200 2.8 lens. I was
shooting at single servo, with the focus weighted to the center,
Res was set to either 4256 or 3024 (switched, to see if that might
be the problem). I swaped the color & tone around to see if
different combos might help. The meter was center weighted. Both
Saturday & Sunday were nice SUNNY days, with few clouds in the sky
to affect pretty much nothing photographically speaking.

My problem is.....I am STILL catching movement blur! For example,
the face is sharp, but the feet are blurred, which isn't a bad
thing, but if vice versa, it's a huge problem. I know I could shoot
at much less with my S1, or on film and stop action. These dogs
were not moving faster than dogs at previous trials. I was also
having trouble getting my shots sharp, I like tack sharp images. It
seems the depth of field is off...I should have a HUGE depth of
field with such small aperture settings, but I only have a few
inches of depth. I am not sure what to think or do at this
point....Do I go back to my S1, or continue trying to deal with the
S2? I really love all the flexability the S2 has to offer. It's a
much nicer camera than the S1. Although I prefer the S1 ISO
switching to the S2.

I printed out several photos On Satuday night, to deliver on
Sunday. I also printed several other shots too, just too play
around a bit. I must say, I didn't hear a single negative word
about the photos, even though I was not 100% happy with them. As a
matter of fact, I was getting MORE compliments than ever! People
REALLY loved what they saw come out of this camera. I do have
people who think they know photography sometime challenge me for
using digital, and get very picky about my images, but not this
weekend.

I can live with some blown out highlights (S1), I can even tolerate
the cyan/green bias the S2 has, that can be fixed easy enough in
PS. But I am having issues with an unsharp image (S2).

--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 
Alissa,

One thought is trying one of the auto exposure modes (S/A/P) only
to try to isolate the pblm. Otherwise, I'd call Fuji. It maybe
your camera is faulty.

I'll try manual on my S2 this afternoon with my Nikkor 80-200 at my
daughter's horse riding lessons. I'll let you know what I find
tomorrow. (Maybe I'll send an example). I'll try around
1/1000-1500 at f11-16.

Ed F
Thanks Ed!
I'll be interested to see how your images come out.

I was mostly shooting in manual....But I was also going to program as well, to see if it was just the wrong mode, or if I'd get better results from one to the other. Everything seems about the same. I also have the in camera sharpening turned on, as I always did in the S1.

It seems that If I just hit Auto Levels in PS7, It fixes the color cast nicely....At least on screen. I'll see how they print out in a while. I normally tweek the levels myself, but I got lazy! My printer is still packed up. I have been working on getting orders formatted, so I can just print them out later.

You guys are GREAT! Thanks for all your help & concern!
--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 
Alissa,

Try this: put camera on manual, set a shutter speed of 1-2s and an aperture of f/16 -f/22.

Push the shutter release and then look into the lens to see that the aperature is really closing down. You could have a problem with the electrical contacts on the body.
Alissa,

One thought is trying one of the auto exposure modes (S/A/P) only
to try to isolate the pblm. Otherwise, I'd call Fuji. It maybe
your camera is faulty.

I'll try manual on my S2 this afternoon with my Nikkor 80-200 at my
daughter's horse riding lessons. I'll let you know what I find
tomorrow. (Maybe I'll send an example). I'll try around
1/1000-1500 at f11-16.

Ed F
Thanks Ed!
I'll be interested to see how your images come out.

I was mostly shooting in manual....But I was also going to program
as well, to see if it was just the wrong mode, or if I'd get better
results from one to the other. Everything seems about the same. I
also have the in camera sharpening turned on, as I always did in
the S1.

It seems that If I just hit Auto Levels in PS7, It fixes the color
cast nicely....At least on screen. I'll see how they print out in a
while. I normally tweek the levels myself, but I got lazy! My
printer is still packed up. I have been working on getting orders
formatted, so I can just print them out later.

You guys are GREAT! Thanks for all your help & concern!
--
Alissa
http://www.pet-personalities.com
 

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