Support needed for Decision - Ixus 870 (880) or Ixus 980 (990) IS

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I need your help to take a decision.

Until now my wife was using an Ixus 40. For Christmas she would like a new camera. Due to the fact that she was enjoying the Ixus Range she would like again an Ixus.

What do you recommend between the Ixus 870 and the Ixus 980 ?

Which model do you have and can you recommend it ?

Thanks for your help .....
 
I've just plumped for a G10 myself but I did look at the two cameras you mention (and the Panasonic LX3). The single most significant difference between the Ixus models, in my opinion, is the range of focal lengths of the lenses. The Ixus 870 will let you work in much tighter spots than the 980 due to the much wider wide angle end. For indoor shooting - family gatherings, parties, in the pub etc. that will be a very strong plus.

For the enthusiast the 980 does offer manual control, which might be another significant difference, but I'd say at this level of camera the focal length range is the key deciding factor.

The G10 give the best of both worlds, and more on top too, like a live histogram, faster aperture at the longer focal lengths, flash hotshoe, higher resolution screen, raw file format, great ergonomics for quick adjustments and no doubt more, which is why I went for the G10 - normally I shoot with DSLRs. If it was me choosing between the 870 and 980 I would pick the 870, but that is to suit my preferences.

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Probably the 880.
The 28mm lens will be more use then the manual controls and everything else.

G10, G10, G10. It's not compact. shouldn't that be the end of the story for anyone asking about compact cameras. ??
 
I need your help to take a decision.

Until now my wife was using an Ixus 40. For Christmas she would like
a new camera. Due to the fact that she was enjoying the Ixus Range
she would like again an Ixus.

What do you recommend between the Ixus 870 and the Ixus 980 ?

Which model do you have and can you recommend it ?

Thanks for your help .....
Xenakis,

Let me see if I can be of help to you. You're wanting to stay with the Ixus family of ultra-compacts. So the earlier remarks about the G10 are not really appropriate to your needs. I have the SD880 (Ixus 870). It has some very strong advantages over earlier models, especially including high resolution 3 inch LCD, very small size, larger buttons that are easy to press and have a nice click feel, Digic 4, and of course the wide angle lens. It is also improved in another way, with changes to the flash design to essentially eliminate the dust orbs found in indoor flash photography in the earlier Canon SD models (like the SD870). That does work very well, and I haven't seen dust orbs in my photos to date, except one. The Digic 4 enables tracking of moving subject just prior to taking the photo, when they are moving to or away from the camera, to insure focus, and of course face detection, and red-eye removal.

The SD990 (Ixus 980) has the larger image sensor and some manual controls. This camera should deliver slightly higher quality images than the SD880, except that it has a high image pixel density also, because Canon chose to include a higher resolution sensor. (More Megapixels) So, it remains to be seen if there is really much greater image quality. (Lower noise at higher ISO settings, say above 400, for low-light shooting situations, which happen a lot indoors, without flash) The SD 990 (Ixus 980) has a 36 mm wide angle view, instead of 28 mm for the SD880.

To me, for capturing images of family and so forth up close, the wide angle zoom is very useful. It's especially great in group photos where space is a limitation. You can get everybody into the picture with ease, most of the time. Other useful purposes are architectural shooting of high rise buildings in downtown settings, where you can't back up anymore to get the buildings included. Wide angle becomes highly appreciated when you've got it. You can always crop to get a narrower view, but there is no other way to get the wide angle, except to have it built into the camera design. (Or add-on lenses for larger cameras)

In my experience, the SD880 (Ixus 870) takes stunning pictures in sharp focus, with very natural colors, with virtually no effort, thanks to Digic 4 and other design featurers in the camera. I think your wife would be well pleased. The small size is definitely appreciated by anyone. There are enough megapixels that you can still crop images that will print or view nicely when you want to do that. I am well pleased with mine. I have had it since October when they first came out in the US. Also, last week I did some video clips with mine for the first time. They came out great, in low light of a concert of cello and piano in low light. 10 minute clips take up a little under 900 Megabytes. An 8 GB flash memory card can record around 90 minutes of video. So that's quite a bit. I prefer the faster older SD format cards of 150x speed for rapid download of pictures and video recordings to the PC. (My preference is Transcend, and they make the SD cards in 2 and 4 GB capacities. Since I don't do a lot of video recording these are better for my needs. If you wanted to do longer videos, you would need the 8 GB SDHC cards in Class 6, which are very cheap, but slower downloads onto the PC)

Hope I've helped.

Glenn
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Canon S2, A610, SD880
 
I only mentioned the G10 for context, because that is the camera I have been concentrating my attention on. Nevertheless, I did look at the Ixus 870 and Ixus 980 (SD 880 and SD 990 in the US). It is true that in terms of size, features and price the G10 is in a different class of camera altogether. I was not suggesting it as a possible alternative for the OP. However, given that I was even looking at the Ixus 870 and 980 for myself , as options instead of the G10, is a good indication that I hold both the Ixus models in high regard.

The thing about the 870 and 980 is that they really are very different cameras and each has its own strengths and weaknesses compared to the other. The differences are marked enough, in that lens zoom range alone, that I would think the decision would be quite easy, if you know the user profile and most important shooting situations for that user. I would think that for your "typical" Ixus user, the feature set of the 870 has more appeal than the 980.

Digressing once again, while the G10 is a chunky camera without doubt, it is no bigger than my wallet and therefore just as pocketable.



 
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G10 is probably a great camera ( I had a G3 in the past ) but it's much bigger than the Ixus Range ... and I don't think my wiife will like it ... Much too complicated !

Other advice ???
 
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G10 is probably a great camera ( I had a G3 in the past ) but it's
much bigger than the Ixus Range ... and I don't think my wiife will
like it ... Much too complicated !

Other advice ???
Well the SX110 would not be quite as compact, but would be a versatile point and shoot option, a little lower price. Also, there's the highly popular SD1100 (Ixus 80) at a much lower price, but it doesn't have the wide angle. If you want to stay small (Ultra-Compact) and with Canon, then your choices are rather limited to those which have been mentioned. (SD990 and SD880 and Ixus equivalents)

There are a lot of other ultra-compacts out there in other brands, for sure. But you'll certainly be complicating your search, that's for sure. Canon is famous for its excellent image quality and true colors. That's really why they sell so well.

Other's you could look at include Panasonic, Fuji, Nikon, Casio, and Sony. But, that's a complicated, time-consuming search.

Best of luck in your selection.

Glenn
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Alexander...our wild child



Canon S2, A610, SD880
 
Great points, Glenn.

I played with all three at BB yesterday. That knocked the G10 and SX10 out of the box for sure....WAY too big. And what can I say about that wallet comparison other than God help the poor guy...or perhaps rich guy. ;)

I'm pretty sure I'll be seeing an 880is in my near future.
 
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Glenn,

I’ve got 2 further questions :

In which material is the Ixus 880 ? still in Metal as the Ixus 40 ?
Why are SDHC slower ? I thought that those new SD were quicker …
 
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Glenn,

I’ve got 2 further questions :

In which material is the Ixus 880 ? still in Metal as the Ixus 40 ?
Why are SDHC slower ? I thought that those new SD were quicker …
Well, I'm speaking for the SD880, which I presume is identical to the Ixus 870 that you're considering. It's not purely metal construction. The front shell (silver or gold) is formed metal, and the back shell is plastic. However, the build quality is excellent. The fit of every part is close, and tight, and the camera has a wonderful quality feel to it.

The memory cards are not my expertise, except to say that the older SD technology cards with 150x rating are faster than SDHC Class 6 for downloads on the PC. That is what is important to me, because I don't make long videos. They take up a lot of space in a hurry on a PC hard drive. So, I tend to limit them a lot. I elected to go for the older SD format card with 4 GB, which can record about 1528 images in L format (10 Megapixel), and Fine compression. (Not Superfine, which would record fewer images, but the quality would not be significantly different) So, I can record about 45 minutes of video on this card, if I choose to do so. (Transcend 4 Gigabyte - 150X SD Flash Memory Card)

Hope this helps.

Glenn
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Alexander...our wild child



Canon S2, A610, SD880
 
Good answer Glen. I have just one point to add, and that's the viewfinder: the 980/990 has one, and the 870/880 doesn't. The viewfinders on these IXUS/SD cameras are not very good, but for those of us who are used to having a viewfinder, a bad viewfinder is much better than none at all.

To the OP: if a viewfinder is important to your wife, keep this in mind.

-barry
 
And what about all the cameras that are considerably smaller than the 880/990??? Micro-compact?
I wouldn't call the G10 a compact camera. I'd call it a midsize "pocketable".
 
Not sure what you mean. Are you asking what a viewfinder is?

I'd love a viewfinder, but no way would I sacrifice a 3" LCD to have one. No way.
Once you use a 3" LCD, it's almost impossible to enjoy a smaller one.
 
And what about all the cameras that are considerably smaller than the
880/990??? Micro-compact?
I wouldn't call the G10 a compact camera. I'd call it a midsize
"pocketable".
The truth is that virtually all point and shoot cameras are considered compact cameras. The smallest of those compact cameras are ultra-compacts, but "compact" and "ultra-compact" are the two most common terms used to categorized P&S cameras. There's nothing overly complex about the concept other than the tendency of some people to want to needlessly redefine what "compact" means when referring to P&S cameras. The G10 is a compact camera.
 
The question was

" Ixus 870 (880) or Ixus 980 (990) IS"

Glenn's answer seemed pretty concise, if you want wide angle you have to go with the 870, if that doesn't matter to you you can go with the 980 - which might have a slightly better image quality. I asked a similar question a few weeks ago, and it has been asked a few times since them by others. In the end the the lack of a wide angle lens in the 980 was the deal closer for me, I brought the 870 a couple of weeks ago and haven't regretted it for a second. Taking pictures of my young daughter the wide angle lens is vastly superior to the 980 36 mm lens. With the 980 you are paying extra for the manual controls which your wife probably has no use for at all. I also found the buttons better on the 870.

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meh.

i just find it funny how a thread about the ixus range can get hijacked into G10 land...
 

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