Yep, and when the d700X or D800 comes out he will say don't get the D3X, it is 75 years old in digital years and is big bulk and heavy.
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Ken Rockwell - Nikon D3X boycott already broken!
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Tigadee
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PHXAZCRAIG
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I was in Photomark in Phoenix today, and they had over a dozen preorders for D3x.
NikonProArtist
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Pre-orders don't mean anything. High demand should be expected for any new item when it is released. The months afterward determine the product success or failure.
Look what is coming in 2009 -- an enormous annual spending decline in January when holiday shoppers are completely broke. Following that comes another year of recession.
Look what is coming in 2009 -- an enormous annual spending decline in January when holiday shoppers are completely broke. Following that comes another year of recession.
FTW
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You can put just anything on the market and at any price and you sell it. Just, it will show in the upcoming month if the amount you will sell is what you expected.
I do not think that Nikon will reach it's goals here. We are in a period and a state where Mister everyone can afford a good camera and many buy those supposed to be for Pro market, despite of the fact that the only advantage of this cameras is there bulky and solid build and can often do much, but really much less then most pro-sumer cameras that offer a better and more complete image processing making quite often a computer rework useless.
What is ball-playing game in this case is that the D3x was ready made since the beginning and all Nikon had to do is insert the sensor in the D3 body once it was ready to ship to them and put the same camera with another sensor on the market. The price difference justifies nowhere and it is a fact that the camera could have been offered as an alternative or better a performance/needs relation to select from between the both cameras without even a cent of difference in price.
Here it is obvious that Nikon plays a rotten game. For sure, those smart brains that need always to be the first to have the new baby and this just at any price and have the wallets that make them care a f---uzzy about the cost exist and will buy it. But, those served, who comes then. In studio work a Sony A900 offers same good shot and is half price, lens included.
The D3 went down from initial price quite fast, today it's an old gear that is somewhat behind it's small brother for almost 75% of it's features. Now the same old box shows up with a high pixel chip and fantasy price.
I think we don't need a boycott and tere has not been any and there will not be any. Want it, buy it and pay. Don't want it leave it where it is. I think the answer to this question will be found inside of your wallet only and Nikon will find out soon that this nasty game doesn't pays anyway, specially not for an item that turns to throw away stuff in less then 2 years and you will sell for 30% of it's initial price and, not to forget, another or more other similar cameras to select from and that sell for less then half price.
Let the guinea pigs buy it, test it and when the next body comes out and it can be bought less then half price, buy one, it will then still make the same good shot.
I have not found any advantage to a full sized until now, have not found a relation to picture quality/price with more recent cameras and just paying that much for a bit of AF and useless gadgets, no thanks.
Carpe Diem
I do not think that Nikon will reach it's goals here. We are in a period and a state where Mister everyone can afford a good camera and many buy those supposed to be for Pro market, despite of the fact that the only advantage of this cameras is there bulky and solid build and can often do much, but really much less then most pro-sumer cameras that offer a better and more complete image processing making quite often a computer rework useless.
What is ball-playing game in this case is that the D3x was ready made since the beginning and all Nikon had to do is insert the sensor in the D3 body once it was ready to ship to them and put the same camera with another sensor on the market. The price difference justifies nowhere and it is a fact that the camera could have been offered as an alternative or better a performance/needs relation to select from between the both cameras without even a cent of difference in price.
Here it is obvious that Nikon plays a rotten game. For sure, those smart brains that need always to be the first to have the new baby and this just at any price and have the wallets that make them care a f---uzzy about the cost exist and will buy it. But, those served, who comes then. In studio work a Sony A900 offers same good shot and is half price, lens included.
The D3 went down from initial price quite fast, today it's an old gear that is somewhat behind it's small brother for almost 75% of it's features. Now the same old box shows up with a high pixel chip and fantasy price.
I think we don't need a boycott and tere has not been any and there will not be any. Want it, buy it and pay. Don't want it leave it where it is. I think the answer to this question will be found inside of your wallet only and Nikon will find out soon that this nasty game doesn't pays anyway, specially not for an item that turns to throw away stuff in less then 2 years and you will sell for 30% of it's initial price and, not to forget, another or more other similar cameras to select from and that sell for less then half price.
Let the guinea pigs buy it, test it and when the next body comes out and it can be bought less then half price, buy one, it will then still make the same good shot.
I have not found any advantage to a full sized until now, have not found a relation to picture quality/price with more recent cameras and just paying that much for a bit of AF and useless gadgets, no thanks.
Carpe Diem
GalacticCannibal
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Ken Rockwell states Nikon D3X will sell for $5500
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I have stopped reading Ken Rockwell reviews and switched to Thom Hogan and the dpreviews. Why , because KR confuses me with his repeated statements, and often confusing scripts. And if his is technical knowledge on DSLR's, is the same as his stated price for the Nikon D3X, then he is out in left field.
Quote from Ken Rockwell "When the credit card float comes due for the D3X, take the $1,000 from under your mattress, the $2,500 proceeds from the D700, and your D3X only costs you an additional $2,000. (The D3X will sell for $5,500).
I have news for Ken R, the Nikon D3X sells for $8000. So his stated price was off by 45%. And using Ken's math guide, plus the real price of the D3X , The D3X will cost you $4,500 and not $2000 as KR stated.
Galactic Cannibal
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I have stopped reading Ken Rockwell reviews and switched to Thom Hogan and the dpreviews. Why , because KR confuses me with his repeated statements, and often confusing scripts. And if his is technical knowledge on DSLR's, is the same as his stated price for the Nikon D3X, then he is out in left field.
Quote from Ken Rockwell "When the credit card float comes due for the D3X, take the $1,000 from under your mattress, the $2,500 proceeds from the D700, and your D3X only costs you an additional $2,000. (The D3X will sell for $5,500).
I have news for Ken R, the Nikon D3X sells for $8000. So his stated price was off by 45%. And using Ken's math guide, plus the real price of the D3X , The D3X will cost you $4,500 and not $2000 as KR stated.
Galactic Cannibal
Shoppers are NOT broke (at least the ones who haven't lost their jobs). They're just scared. That's why they're not spending money. Same is true for the stock market - there is billions sitting on the sidelines because the market is so volatile.
Americans are shoppers and spenders at heart and the dam is going to burst at some point and they'll all start spending money again. But probably not for this holiday season, except for the bargains.
My prediction is that even the housing market will recover because interest rates are amazingly low and housing prices have fallen back to somewhat reasonable levels.
When you have houses for sale (that were left by idiots who borrowed constantly against the equity and then couldn't afford the payments) at relatively low prices when interest rates are at 5% and soon may go down to 4.5%, there are going to be plenty of buyers once the banks start freeing up money for loans again. The real-estate market was ridiculously overheated and near-slums were selling for $1 million. Markets which didn't have large demand (like many parts of Florida) over-built.
But the U.S. population is still expanding (New York City will need another 200,000-300,000 housing units by 2030) and all that housing is going to be needed.
The biggest issue is that many retailers cannot survive a bad holiday season, so many will disappear by February. And it could be 2-3 years before many unemployed people will be able to find jobs again.
Besides, there are still plenty of people with too much money and those are the people who will be buying toys like the D3X or the newest Canon offerings.
Americans are shoppers and spenders at heart and the dam is going to burst at some point and they'll all start spending money again. But probably not for this holiday season, except for the bargains.
My prediction is that even the housing market will recover because interest rates are amazingly low and housing prices have fallen back to somewhat reasonable levels.
When you have houses for sale (that were left by idiots who borrowed constantly against the equity and then couldn't afford the payments) at relatively low prices when interest rates are at 5% and soon may go down to 4.5%, there are going to be plenty of buyers once the banks start freeing up money for loans again. The real-estate market was ridiculously overheated and near-slums were selling for $1 million. Markets which didn't have large demand (like many parts of Florida) over-built.
But the U.S. population is still expanding (New York City will need another 200,000-300,000 housing units by 2030) and all that housing is going to be needed.
The biggest issue is that many retailers cannot survive a bad holiday season, so many will disappear by February. And it could be 2-3 years before many unemployed people will be able to find jobs again.
Besides, there are still plenty of people with too much money and those are the people who will be buying toys like the D3X or the newest Canon offerings.
Jarkko Haarla Jr
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"Well, if someone else can can do it, I have to do it (just a little) to order one to test for you folks, so I just ordered a D3X. Lame excuse, yes, but I always put your needs ahead of my own".
I mean what kind of cr@p is that?? Is he pretending to be a public servant or something? The next step probably is, that there is soon a "plis, plis pliiii-i-i-iiiss help me and my family, plis donate to my D3x fund. Paypal and Visa are ok, don´t go for too small sums".
I mean what kind of cr@p is that?? Is he pretending to be a public servant or something? The next step probably is, that there is soon a "plis, plis pliiii-i-i-iiiss help me and my family, plis donate to my D3x fund. Paypal and Visa are ok, don´t go for too small sums".
get latest stuffs on his hands.
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http://www.photos-of-the-year.com/articles/nikon-d700-experience/
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http://www.photos-of-the-year.com/articles/nikon-d700-experience/
Aurance
Leading Member
I never said that - that was a quote from Ken Rockwell's Web.
Cheers!
Cheers!
rhlpetrus
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My post was just in good humour, of course this "boycott" thing was just one more of KR's marketing stunts.
The guy is a joke. But people keep referring to his site here like he had something relevant to say.
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The guy is a joke. But people keep referring to his site here like he had something relevant to say.
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rhlpetrus
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They need to get rid of the black spots first ...
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Dan Wagner
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8K is a lot of money to try to recoup. I think the D3 is more than sufficient for the majority of photos. I'm waiting for a D700 with the 24mp chip. Then I will sell my D300. I'll buy a D700x for up to 3K.
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