Interesting viewfinder idea

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Hi Jeff,

My first SLR, a Praktica FX2 bought second hand in 1963 had a very similar sports viewfinder. Focussing was by means of a simple magnifying lens which hinged down from the top cover above the camera's ground glass screen.

To use the sports finder, part of the top cover hinged outwards to make a rectangular window and a small sheet of metal with a rectangular hole in it was pulled up from behind the ground glass screen to form the rear aperture of the viewfinder.

The sports viewfinder was essential for shooting moving subjects, because of the lateral inversion caused by the reflex mirror. They moved in the wrong direction while panning when viewed via the mirror. It was also essential for vertical frames as the reflected image appeared upside down.

As an undergraduate student I couldn't afford to buy the matching pentaprism which cost almost half of what I'd paid for the camera.

I finally solved my problem by designing and making the equivalent of a pentaprism, perhaps the first ever pentamirror. It took the form of a hollow pentaprism shaped box, in which the aluminised inner surfaces were cut from cover glasses for slides, then bonded to pieces of thin steel sheet before being assembled and bonded into the final shape.

I still have the pentamirror which still functions well, though there is no diopter adjustment on its rear lens. I was a lot younger then so I didn't need one:-)

If only if I'd patented my pentamirror in 1963, I guess I would be a rich man by now.

Jimmy
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I wish someone would start marketing some kind of viewfinder. I would buy a LX3 in a heartbeat. But I'm not going to pay $200 for one...heheh. Maybe someone in Hong Kong will come up with something. Hong Kong ebay seems to be the place when you need some small accessory that the manufacturer is charging way too much for.
Russ
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As an undergraduate student I couldn't afford to buy the matching
pentaprism which cost almost half of what I'd paid for the camera.

I finally solved my problem by designing and making the equivalent of
a pentaprism, perhaps the first ever pentamirror. It took the form of
a hollow pentaprism shaped box, in which the aluminised inner
surfaces were cut from cover glasses for slides, then bonded to
pieces of thin steel sheet before being assembled and bonded into the
final shape.
...
If only if I'd patented my pentamirror in 1963, I guess I would be a
rich man by now.
...
A patent and the money would have been nice, but 35 years later, you can still take pride in your invention. That's some consolation :-)

Jeff
 
I wish someone would start marketing some kind of viewfinder. I would
buy a LX3 in a heartbeat.
I prefer a viewfinder, but I've gotten used to the LCD with my F30. I expect the LX3's to be somewhat better in bright light. An LCD does support one-handed arm's length shooting, which you can't do with a viewfinder.
But I'm not going to pay $200 for
one...heheh. Maybe someone in Hong Kong will come up with something...
A cheap one would only have to be good enough for reasonably accurate framing. Apparently, the Panasonic version doesn't do more than that.

I would pay $200 for a hot shoe EVF coupled to the zoom.

Jeff
 
Does anyone still make "LCD viewfinder adapters"? A quick search on Google doesn't turn up much. Dissatisfied with the rangefinder-style VF on my old Oly C5050, I purchased one of these beasts with the idea of getting a 100% frame and manual focus capabilities. It attached over the LCD and presented you with a (non-adjustable) VF. It was held in place by velcro, not ideal, but easy to apply and remove. The trouble was that the C5050's LCD, described at the time as "large and bright" in most reviews, was actually fairly low-res, and didn't hold up well to being magnified.

Perhaps today's LCDs would fare better with such a device. The problem, of course, is it is "one more thing to carry around", and as such doesn't lend itself well to the pocket cameras that are plagued by the lack of a VF.

Tim
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A patent and the money would have been nice, but 35 years later, you can still take pride in your invention. That's some consolation :-)
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your kind remarks. I do feel satisfied with my achievement. Also, at my age, there are other things much more important than money.

It's actually 45 years since I made my pentamirror. Five years ago and 40 years after graduating, the task of tracking down my fellow mechanical engineers for a Class of 64 reunion fell to me.

As the 2004 event was successful, we agreed to hold another but debated whether it should be in 5 years or 10. In view of the possibility of our numbers dwindling, we decided on 5 years so I am again tasked with trying to contact my fellow 'mechanicals'.

Having dug out my old Praktica, thinking back to the way I used it in 1963 and comparing it with my FZ50 made me even more aware of just how spoilt we are with the cameras of today.

In the 1960's, for colour slides with reasonably fine grain and accurate colour, I generally used Agfa CT18, only 50 ISO. I also did my own B&W developing and printing using ilford Pan F, 50 ISO, or FP3, 125 ISO, in low light.

My Praktica has a Zeiss Tessar F2.8 50 mm manual lens. After using a hand held meter to assess the exposure, the shutter speed and aperture had to be set manually. Also after focussing at full aperture via the ground glass screen, the lens had to be stopped down manually before taking a shot.

At F16, that resulted in a very dim image. In addition when the shutter was released, the viewfinder went black as the mirror flipped up and it stayed that way until the film was wound on for the next frame.

That reminiscence has increased my appreciation of the tremendous advances that have been made since then, not only in the design and manufacture of cameras and lenses but also in image processing, much of it resulting from the digital revolution. I have a great deal of admiration for the designers of the FZ50.

Jimmy
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J C Brown
 
Does anyone still make "LCD viewfinder adapters"? ....... The trouble was that the C5050's LCD, described at the time as "large and bright" in most reviews, was actually fairly low-res, and didn't hold up well to being magnified.
Perhaps today's LCDs would fare better with such a device. The problem, of course, is it is "one more thing to carry around", and as such doesn't lend itself well to the pocket cameras that are plagued by the lack of a VF.
A few days ago I used my FZ50 with a Raynox 250 and 150 ganged together. I was trying to measure the limit of resolution of a Fujichrome ISO100 slide which I'd taken of a FUJIFILM resolution test chart using my old Minolta X-700 film SLR.

To get the best possible resolution, I tried viewing the LCD screen of the FZ50 via a 10X magnifier while using manual focus, in the same way as I would have viewed a ground glass screen in the bad old days of film. Unfortunately it didn't help. It just made the pixels bigger.

Jimmy
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J C Brown
 
A patent and the money would have been nice, but 35 years later, you can still take pride in your invention. That's some consolation :-)
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for your kind remarks. I do feel satisfied with my
achievement. Also, at my age, there are other things much more
important than money.

It's actually 45 years since I made my pentamirror...
I counted the decades on my fingers and somehow missed one. :-)
 

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