the images alone worth the price tag!

1. the transitions in the HIGHLIGHTS -- it is as smooth as MF for sure!
2. the colour contrast, much better then the mk3

The lenses used are also the very best though! :)
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really, i still think the nikon 200mm f4 macro is still nikon's best!

The 200mm f2 is one of the best and will yield better pictures.
 
The landscape shots show poor micro detail separation, clearly not MF
league, I hope that this is not representative of what the camera can
deliver.
Yes, this was exactly my first thougth when I saw the landscape shot.
Micro detail separation in the more distant trees is weak. Which
means it is not exactly a landscape camera.

regards
Bernie
If you need the detail, go MF or LF. Easy as that. Nobody is limiting anybody in the field....use or buy what you think you need. if you want the ultimate detail, buy LF, but that will set you back easally 50 grand or more...
 
If you need the detail, go MF or LF. Easy as that. Nobody is limiting
anybody in the field....use or buy what you think you need. if you
want the ultimate detail, buy LF, but that will set you back easally
50 grand or more...
First the question is whether or whether not another DSLR can deliver sharper detail. Digital MF can already be found for quite low prices used. One hasn't got to buy the latest new. Low ISO should be ok for that.

On the other hand, LF film still exists, and an old 4x5 has still great quality to deliver for less than a mid class DSLR.

I cannot afford a 39MP back with Hasselblad camera, but this is also not necessary.

regards
Bernie
 
have so much make up on their faces, there's nothing left to make it look sharp :(

PS, she needs to shave her nose :)
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If you need the detail, go MF or LF. Easy as that. Nobody is limiting
anybody in the field....use or buy what you think you need. if you
want the ultimate detail, buy LF, but that will set you back easally
50 grand or more...
First the question is whether or whether not another DSLR can deliver
sharper detail. Digital MF can already be found for quite low prices
used. One hasn't got to buy the latest new. Low ISO should be ok for
that.

On the other hand, LF film still exists, and an old 4x5 has still
great quality to deliver for less than a mid class DSLR.

I cannot afford a 39MP back with Hasselblad camera, but this is also
not necessary.

regards
Bernie
Depends on who your clients are. Alot of Pro based magazines will only except MF or LF files for landscape or fashion! If you cannot deliver, somebody else will who uses MF or LF digital or film!
 
have so much make up on their faces, there's nothing left to make it
look sharp :(

PS, she needs to shave her nose :)
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What you're actually saying is: for me 25 MP is allready a bit too much of a good thing.LOL.

By the way, photoshop has nice tools to shave her nose.
 
By the way the incredible detail would be a godsend for those you know, ahem....Penthouse type photos? LOL!
What you're actually saying is: for me 25 MP is allready a bit too
much of a good thing.LOL.

By the way, photoshop has nice tools to shave her nose.
 
If one needs more pixels than the d3 has and 24 mp is enough, then the d3x has its place. It has convenience over mf cameras, especially for those who already have some good nikon lenses.

There may not be that many for whom that is the sweet spot. I don't know, and nikon will find out how good their projections or wishful thinking were.
 
yet you failed to realize that the skin has moisturizer on
and that is why it has a bit of shin and glossiness which increased
the contrast
Okay that explains it. I suppose that if I had taken the time to look more carefully at the pic I would have caught up on what is going on.

So then what is your point? You post a pic where there is no subtle color changes to capture - indeed there are none - and you come to the conclusion that the A900 is great? Maybe, but your pics do not support that conclusion.
If you can post me an example from the nikon site, where there are
those subtle changes of luminosity on the skin, you are talking
about then you may have a point. But You can't, because there aren't
any. even the beauty samples shot with the 60mm micro (lense that I
used for years) do not show any more gradient that between the fine
details, even taking on consideration that the nikon photo is exposed
more on the right side and there is dry make up on the surface of the
skin which should help.
But you can't come to a conclusion because you don't know - for in instance - how the image is processed. A lot of people love and look for smooth skin, and PP their pic to achieve this effect. We don't know the lighting, some make up (even dry) do not help, etc.

Bottom line: you're jumping to conclusions and you have no evidence to support them.

Looks like my post has touched a nerve from the way you replied. No reason to get upset, this is just a discussion about cameras.

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If one needs more pixels than the d3 has and 24 mp is enough, then
the d3x has its place. It has convenience over mf cameras, especially
for those who already have some good nikon lenses.

There may not be that many for whom that is the sweet spot. I don't
know, and nikon will find out how good their projections or wishful
thinking were.
fact is nikon is making the money in the lower segment sections! IF the d3x doesn't sell, they can always sell it at lower cost and call it d700x or d800 and not loose a great deal here!

They can always incorporate the sensor technology into much cheaper bodies, wich will sell much more, making money. Canon never made money with their 1dIII!
 
When I saw what I could print with the D3X file, my attitude changed. OMG was my first reaction. It was a tingle of WOWWWWW !!!! All this with a 35mm camera.

As an portrait wedding guy (currently on sabbatical) I am thrilled with the prospect of this body. I also do Architectural work - so bingo I now have the best of both worlds. And for portraits in the studio, wahoooo !

And the D700/D3 is already a killer camera. My other option, to go MF digital, always seemed way out of reach.
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But you can't come to a conclusion because you don't know - for in
instance - how the image is processed. A lot of people love and look
for smooth skin, and PP their pic to achieve this effect. We don't
know the lighting, some make up (even dry) do not help, etc.

Bottom line: you're jumping to conclusions and you have no evidence
to support them.
Well, I'm not exactly jumping to conclusions.

Mine is an educate guess of course, but I have good chances of being enough accurate.

The lighting is pretty easy to make it out, there are not many secrets there. Having taken shots like the one below for magazines and Ads for Cosmetics for the long time I have some idea on how light, make up and skin interact. If you used the Nikon 60mm Micro, you know how sharp it is, the kind of contrast it has and how it DOF at a given aperture and distance. The picture was not retouched and the skin has not been modified/smoothed or what so ever. they may have cloned out some small blemishes on the skin or some imperfection of the make up, but it looks like they did not. They may have sharpened a little just to remove dullness of the raw file, but it does not look like.

Really, I have taken photos like those so many times, with so many different cameras and lenses that I cannot even remember.

After all is not rocket science and looking at the images there are more than enough elements to make an educated guess, that stand good chances of being accurate enough.

Another frame would be more appropriate, this is the only one I could get with a link.
If you look more carefully you can see what I see.

I know it is not 2+2=4, but that is what experience, practice and a bit of knowledge come to help.

than if you do not like what you see and want to believe something else, it is another story.

 
Another frame would be more appropriate, this is the only one I could
get with a link.
If you look more carefully you can see what I see.
Really? Then what do we see in the pic you've just linked to:
  • The subject's hand which is closest to the image left edge, the finger which is closest from the viewer, and which is nearly in focus. Part of the finger is well-lit, the rest of the finger is more shaded. Very nice, progressive brightness gradient from the bright area to the shaded area, getting progresively and very smoothly darker along the path where the shadow is darker, which gives a sense of 3D to the finger.
  • Same finger, her finger nail that shows under the black/fake fingernail. The nail is close to but not uniformly lit. The differences are very subtle. Very nice, smooth alibeit subtle gradient which gives a 3D feeling to the finger nail.
  • The other hand (which is on on top of the other), the fake black finger nail which is closest to the viewer is also nearly in focus. The black is not uniform and again the capture of the luminosity gradients of the black gives a 3D feeling.
  • Her left eye (rightmost for the viewer), which is in focus. So many fine gradients captured, between the white of the eye, the inside corner of her eye between the speculars, the iris with all its nuances of blue, even the tiny blood vessels show gradation!
Thank you for posting. I've never seen such outstanding capture except in MF.
than if you do not like what you see
Why don't you educate us and tell what we should see. Because, frankly, if I were to compare your A900 shot to that one pic you've just posted, the camera that took the latter is in a totally different league beyond and above yours IQ wise.
and want to believe something else, it is another story.
Well look who's talking.

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