Stop whining about D3X Price

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Some people would complain if they were hung with a new rope.

In case you live under a rock, you've seen the maxed-out threads about how crazy/naive/ insane Nikon is for pricing the D3x at $8000 USD. Posters have threatened to switch to Sony, Canon, give up photography altogether, etc.

Two words: Stop Whining.

For years people have whined about Nikon not having full frame. Then when the D3 came out, they whined that it was only 12MP (and $5000). Now Nikon finally comes out with a true pro-level camera that competes with or exceeds Canon Mark III on every level (at least on paper, nobody's actually seen one yet), and they're still not happy. The Mark III, now about 1 year old, debut price was $7999.99. And people paid it. Sure economic times were better a year ago, but so what? Times change.

Nikon would be idiots NOT to debut the D3x at $8000. Why? Because people will pay it. And when the first wave of gotta-have-it-no-matter-what-it-costs people are done, they'll lower the price. The B&H price on the Mark III is now $6700. That's about a 16% price drop in one year. I'd expect a similar price drop for the D3x over the course of the next year.

A lot of the anger is probably fueled by rumors that the D3x would be $5000. I'm sure that did cause some disappointment, but let's think about this. Why would Nikon put out a Mark III killer for $1700 less than a Mark III? THAT would be idiocy, at least until Canon comes out with the Mark IV. Besides, how can you sell existing stock of D3 for $4000, when you've got a camera with twice the MP for $5000? It's hard enough to sell the D3 with the D700 lurking about at $2700.

Let's look at the bright side. It hasn't been since I-can't-remember-when that Nikon had the TOP Pro-level DSLR on the planet (don't post and tell me you're Olympus/Sony/Panasonic/Hasselblad is better, I don't care). It's not a Sony sensor (we should all be happy about that), and it's better than the best Canon has to offer, again based on pre-release data at the present time.

Take a moment to bask in the all-too-brief glory as the King of the Mountain, someone will knock us off it all too soon.

BTW, I can't even afford a D700, so I feel your economic pain. I do. But let's try to be rational, not emotional here. Besides, maybe this will drive prices down all down the line. I'd love to see a D700 around $2000.

Please don't post just to tell me what an idiot I am. I just thought with all the negativity about this issue, someone needed to point out that Nikon deserves congrats here, not grumbling.

JMHO
 
Your so right, all those people crying about something that is out of their price range and they would never it buy annyway. If you want state of the art you pay for it at least the first year, it is like if you buy a state of the art computer now you know for sure it is 33% cheaper within a year and that is for all electronics. The funny thing is that there are always loosers whining about it, if they had brains they would know that it will be cheaper in the futures but for some reason that commen sence never gets in their mind, or they like shouting their frustrations to much.

I think if the talks about this camera are right, that there will be people switching to nikon from other brands...

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(wow.. the name is the same as the lens on your camera, it's big!!)
 
Don't tell me what to do
Some people would complain if they were hung with a new rope.

In case you live under a rock, you've seen the maxed-out threads
about how crazy/naive/ insane Nikon is for pricing the D3x at $8000
USD. Posters have threatened to switch to Sony, Canon, give up
photography altogether, etc.

Two words: Stop Whining.

For years people have whined about Nikon not having full frame. Then
when the D3 came out, they whined that it was only 12MP (and $5000).
Now Nikon finally comes out with a true pro-level camera that
competes with or exceeds Canon Mark III on every level (at least on
paper, nobody's actually seen one yet), and they're still not happy.
The Mark III, now about 1 year old, debut price was $7999.99. And
people paid it. Sure economic times were better a year ago, but so
what? Times change.

Nikon would be idiots NOT to debut the D3x at $8000. Why? Because
people will pay it. And when the first wave of
gotta-have-it-no-matter-what-it-costs people are done, they'll lower
the price. The B&H price on the Mark III is now $6700. That's about
a 16% price drop in one year. I'd expect a similar price drop for
the D3x over the course of the next year.

A lot of the anger is probably fueled by rumors that the D3x would be
$5000. I'm sure that did cause some disappointment, but let's think
about this. Why would Nikon put out a Mark III killer for $1700 less
than a Mark III? THAT would be idiocy, at least until Canon comes
out with the Mark IV. Besides, how can you sell existing stock of D3
for $4000, when you've got a camera with twice the MP for $5000?
It's hard enough to sell the D3 with the D700 lurking about at $2700.

Let's look at the bright side. It hasn't been since
I-can't-remember-when that Nikon had the TOP Pro-level DSLR on the
planet (don't post and tell me you're
Olympus/Sony/Panasonic/Hasselblad is better, I don't care). It's not
a Sony sensor (we should all be happy about that), and it's better
than the best Canon has to offer, again based on pre-release data at
the present time.

Take a moment to bask in the all-too-brief glory as the King of the
Mountain, someone will knock us off it all too soon.

BTW, I can't even afford a D700, so I feel your economic pain. I do.
But let's try to be rational, not emotional here. Besides, maybe
this will drive prices down all down the line. I'd love to see a
D700 around $2000.

Please don't post just to tell me what an idiot I am. I just thought
with all the negativity about this issue, someone needed to point out
that Nikon deserves congrats here, not grumbling.

JMHO
 
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Roy Batty
 
Please don't post just to tell me what an idiot I am. I just thought
with all the negativity about this issue, someone needed to point out
that Nikon deserves congrats here, not grumbling.

JMHO
I agree with your post JMHO, I have been hoping that the D3 would soon be upgraded, as I always buy camera's two years or so after they have been out, and a new model has taken on the glory! I will now be able to upgrade to the D3 soon after Xmas and keeep my D2X as back up. The cost of the new D3X is not too bad for what you are getting, look at the price of a Hasselblad or some of the lmedium format camera's. I could not afford to pay for a new D3X so will let someone else that keeps up with the latest, buy one and then I will get one second hand in about two years time. Interestingly, I never buy new cars either, you have to cut your cloth etc etc.

Dave.
 
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Best part about the D3x is that a new D700x’ish body can’t be too far behind. Something’s got to go after the 5Dmk2. The next jump is here, I’m with OSCARGROUCH … wait it out, let it push down, and then jump. New capabilities always carry a premium. Don’t whine about it, be happy with the advance and push down on the product stack.

John Storm
 
Agreed. People complaining about the D3x pricing are people that hoped they could afford one and now think they can't. And there may be numbers that think an eventual D700x will also be too expensive to afford. I don't think anyone whines over the price of cameras they didn't want all that much to start with.

I'm still happy with my D300, though I'm gradually getting enamored about the D700 for low light and wide angle work. Sure, if the D3x were under two grand, I'd be saving for one. For now, the D700 is out of my comfort range, I don't make money off photography so I can't justify buying it, and I don't even consider D3 or D3x.

At least the price of the D3x should keep some sort of floor under D3 prices?

If you really thought there was no appreciable difference between an A900 and a D3x, you wouldn't whine about the D3x price, you'd just go buy yourself an A900, maybe an expensive lens or two for it, and pat yourself on the back for being smart.
 
BTW, I can't even afford a D700, so I feel your economic pain. I do.
But let's try to be rational, not emotional here. Besides, maybe
this will drive prices down all down the line. I'd love to see a
D700 around $2000.

JMHO
As other posters have said, the price of all things keep coming down. Your wish of a D700 at around $2000 is already true. Right now there are new ones selling on eBay for $2250. With the live.com cash back of $200 (Right now only 15%) your final price would be about $2050. Even D300's are going for $1260. Traditionally the prices are lowest in December as everyone tries to move inventory, but prices tends to recover a little afterwards and not much else happens in terms of price reductions til the latter half of next year. Who knows about this current climate though.
 
Past data says you're right. I'm hoping to see some pretty big price reductions in February, due to the economic climate. Of course, that doesn't mean my own economic situation won't be similarly affected.
 

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