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Do you guys use 'cloudy' WB?

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Sandman said:
Bill_M,

...Since I set the WB to cloudy, I can shoot in any
situation and get acceptable results....very natural skin tones and
normal colors otherwise. Again, the amazing and surprising finding
to me was the great colors I get with flash (Vivitar 285HV)in the
cloudy setting.
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I've been using the cloudy setting more often than not for outside and flash shots (Vivitar 285) and I like the warmer tones. I think it more closely resembles daylight film (memories from my silver halide light exposer days). If I remember right, the Vivitar flash has a color temp slightly warmer than sunlight. My experience has been that it works well with either setting, but gives a more pleasant warmer coloring with the cloudy setting.
-Gene L.
 
I wonder if this works with the other OLYs like the 3040. I've just changed my UZi and am anxious to see the results. I had been using auto and correcting in Elements.
 
That's just the kind of color I have been getting from my Canon A40 (which is inferior in most other ways, to be honest) that made me want the same from my UZI. I hate I have to work this evening or I'd be out shooting some evening shots right now.
Skip said:
Here's a sunset shot I took before the fireworks on the fourth with
the WB set to clouds:
http://www.pbase.com/image/2910242
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Garry Schaefer said:
Yes, I routinely use that setting (6500K on the E-10) even when
there is no cloud between camera and sun. It's also the suggested
setting for flash.
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I never knew that "cloudy" was the suggested setting for flash. Man, I am REALLY looking forward to trying this out this weekend.

My kids are gonna be REALLY tired of my flash going off while they're watching Spongebob Squarepants.
 
I tried changing the WB to cloudy. With my camera, it made the pic worse. I tended to get a greenish cast on the photos. I tried the other WB settings and for me "auto" seemed to give the most accurate color. I tested it on a cloudy morning and a sunny afternoon. I wonder if different firmware versions could account for some having better color with their WB set to cloudy. My three week old uzi has firmware version...352u-77.
Terry M said:
A friend said he was told by a big-name Nikon aficionado (sp?) that
he MUCH prefers using the "cloudy" setting when shooting with the
Nikon D1X and D1H.

I fiugured I would try this out myself with my UZI (BTW, it
actually WAS a cloudy evening).

And wow, what color! I have enjoyed the UZI's natural color for the
most part, but it has paled a bit next to my Canon A40s vivid
default setting.

But the cloudy setting really made a difference in some pics I took
this evening. The color just jumped off the screen.

How many of you use 'cloudy' regularly or as your default? This was
my first time and I can hardly wait to try it in some other
circumstances.
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miqel said:
I wonder if different firmware versions could account
for some having better color with their WB set to cloudy. My three
week old uzi has firmware version...352u-77.
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I'm sorry to hear your test came out this way, Migel. But my camera has the same firmware as yours.

I find the newer firmware's Auto adjusts more reliably than on older versions (this is my third UZI; looooooooong story!) to different lighting settings, but I still get the best pics when setting WB "manually" (using presets) when shooting.
 
The crop is a little different between the two images, but I DO see more vivid color in the one shot with the "cloudy" setting.

OK, I'll get out of this thread for a while and go do some work LOL
 
On the E-10 the white balance presets are designated by their equivalent colour 'temperatures' in degrees Kelvin. Sunny equates to 5500K, cloudy to 6500K and open shade to 7500K. The open shade temperature provides a reason that pictures taken under those conditions with daylight film often take on a bluish caste. That removed when the correct WB setting is selected.
daryl.com said:
2b said:
Thanks for posting Terry!
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Garry's Page: http://www3.mb.sympatico.ca/~gschaef
 
I think your pic has a very slight greenish cast to it. It seemed more natural when I ran it through Irfanview and dropped the green color to about ( -6 ). I noticed with my uzi set to cloudy that it tended to emphasize greens too.
Sandman said:
Bill_M,

I do use it in bright sunshine! The only time I have had a WB
problem was when my UZI was set in auto WB. THe sunny setting
works fine in bright sun, but I get funny color casts in other
situations. Since I set the WB to cloudy, I can shoot in any
situation and get acceptable results....very natural skin tones and
normal colors otherwise. Again, the amazing and surprising finding
to me was the great colors I get with flash (Vivitar 285HV)in the
cloudy setting.



jim
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miqel,

I see it too! You know what is funny....I have my pbase image and my photoshop image open side-by-side and the photoshop image is perfect, but I do see the greenish cast from the pbase image.

In PhotoShop I use the Adobe RGB 1998 color management color profile. I wonder if that is the reason it looks different in PS than on pbase. If you have PS, I'll send you my PS file. Hmmmmm, I wonder what's up?

I'll tell you I do not see the greenish color cast on any of these images in PS.

jim
 
I don't know, maybe its me or my uzi, but I'm not seeing this fantastic cloudy WB thing. I tried it both this morning (cloudy skies) and this afternoon (sunny skies) and both times my pics had a very slight greenish cast to them. Maybe I'm hypersensitive to colors, but for now I'll stick to "auto" setting. It gives the most natural colors to me.
Sandman said:
miqel,

I see it too! You know what is funny....I have my pbase image and
my photoshop image open side-by-side and the photoshop image is
perfect, but I do see the greenish cast from the pbase image.

In PhotoShop I use the Adobe RGB 1998 color management color
profile. I wonder if that is the reason it looks different in PS
than on pbase. If you have PS, I'll send you my PS file. Hmmmmm,
I wonder what's up?

I'll tell you I do not see the greenish color cast on any of these
images in PS.

jim
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It may be the colour balance of your monitor. Try comparing it with a printed photo and see if you need to adjust your monitor settings.

Peter
miqel said:
Sandman said:
miqel,

I see it too! You know what is funny....I have my pbase image and
my photoshop image open side-by-side and the photoshop image is
perfect, but I do see the greenish cast from the pbase image.

In PhotoShop I use the Adobe RGB 1998 color management color
profile. I wonder if that is the reason it looks different in PS
than on pbase. If you have PS, I'll send you my PS file. Hmmmmm,
I wonder what's up?

I'll tell you I do not see the greenish color cast on any of these
images in PS.

jim
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Peter B
Olympus C-2100uz, B300, FL40

Now where did I put those SLRs?
 
I do, especially for outdoor portraits, on cloudy days as well as sunny days. My theory why Cloudy WB works better is that it is stable shot to shot, whereas Auto is likely contininuously adjustable, that is one shot it may be, for example 6752K, and the next 6896K, or anything in between. Try Cloudy WB for portraits, it warmes them up nicely.
It would be great to have WB bracketing.
MarkG
Terry M said:
A friend said he was told by a big-name Nikon aficionado (sp?) that
he MUCH prefers using the "cloudy" setting when shooting with the
Nikon D1X and D1H.

I fiugured I would try this out myself with my UZI (BTW, it
actually WAS a cloudy evening).

And wow, what color! I have enjoyed the UZI's natural color for the
most part, but it has paled a bit next to my Canon A40s vivid
default setting.

But the cloudy setting really made a difference in some pics I took
this evening. The color just jumped off the screen.

How many of you use 'cloudy' regularly or as your default? This was
my first time and I can hardly wait to try it in some other
circumstances.
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Terry M said:
A friend said he was told by a big-name Nikon aficionado (sp?) that
he MUCH prefers using the "cloudy" setting when shooting with the
Nikon D1X and D1H.

I fiugured I would try this out myself with my UZI (BTW, it
actually WAS a cloudy evening).

And wow, what color! I have enjoyed the UZI's natural color for the
most part, but it has paled a bit next to my Canon A40s vivid
default setting.

But the cloudy setting really made a difference in some pics I took
this evening. The color just jumped off the screen.

How many of you use 'cloudy' regularly or as your default? This was
my first time and I can hardly wait to try it in some other
circumstances.
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-Robert B.

C2100UZ, D40
 
Now that I've read all these msgs I'm still wondering about one thing:
what about reception of different black fabrics in the same picture?

I've had the phenomenon that a black skirt and a black shirt in the same picture don't turn out black in the final result. The thing I'm seeing is that one of the clothings turn out purplish instead of black. I've tried with different setting (WB etc.) and I can't really find a setting that helps me to get rid of this totally.

Has anybody seen this too and maybe found a way to get rid of this?

Would be great to get some input on this since my friends and I are mostly wearing black clothes =)
--
Dr. Günther
http://vingel.dns2go.com/fredrik.arenhag/gallery
Terry M said:
A friend said he was told by a big-name Nikon aficionado (sp?) that
he MUCH prefers using the "cloudy" setting when shooting with the
Nikon D1X and D1H.

I fiugured I would try this out myself with my UZI (BTW, it
actually WAS a cloudy evening).

And wow, what color! I have enjoyed the UZI's natural color for the
most part, but it has paled a bit next to my Canon A40s vivid
default setting.

But the cloudy setting really made a difference in some pics I took
this evening. The color just jumped off the screen.

How many of you use 'cloudy' regularly or as your default? This was
my first time and I can hardly wait to try it in some other
circumstances.
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