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New E-30 - Real Live-View-Shooting like E-330?
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Gottschalk
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It will be same as implemented in the e-3...
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Martin Frost
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thats also the question for me - I assume with new 14-54 its quite fast [nt]
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Raist3d
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yup.
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so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
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makes a good photograph.'
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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
CrashE3
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the E-420/530...
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wmsson
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Olympus says the E30 has contrast detect autofocus in live view. I'm going to feel like an idiot if I find out only now that the E3 has that and I have been complaining to myself all this time about it not having it.
Louis_Dobson
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mfbernstein
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Nope, your E-3 doesn't have it. E-420/E-520 only.
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Gottschalk
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Sorry, my bad...I was under the impression that the e-3 had the same as the e-520. But what I meant was that it's not the same as the much coveted e-330...
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you have to love some of the confusion that appears from time to time (and I'm not suggesting mfb is at all confused in that statement)
whilst the live view implementation will closely mirror the 520, the (likely) use of the E3 shutter and mirror in the E30 will also have the potential to impact slightly on the 'shooting experience' as does the erticulating LCD as Louis points out.
at the end of the day you will have, in live view, the focus options of the x20s, the underlying mechanical processes consistent with the x10s, x20s and 3 running on e3 mechanicals. the latter seems to me to do the jpb noticably quicker than my 510 despite doing the same things....
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1. you can focus without an exposure
2. you still have a mirror movement etc
3. it will be the best overall implementation of LV on recent models but at an overall operation 'speed/lag' in line with the E3
4. it's not LV mode A from the 330 - at all.
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Barry Weber
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On the current Olympus Live View models there is a delay of about 4 tenths of a second when depressing the shutter until an image is captured. This isn't acceptable for action shooting and so we're all hoping for a zero delay system like the E-330 uses in Mode A.
The Sony A-350 and the Canon D-40 do not have any delay in the the time they use to capture an image when the shutter is depressed. I certainly hope that Olympus got this right in the E-30 and that there can be live view without delay in capturing.
The Sony A-350 and the Canon D-40 do not have any delay in the the time they use to capture an image when the shutter is depressed. I certainly hope that Olympus got this right in the E-30 and that there can be live view without delay in capturing.
thanx for your answers so far.
I am planning to use the cam for Underwater Photography, so there shouldn't be ANY shutter lag at all cause the fishes are moving quite fastly ;-)
So, regarding your answers i have to expect a shutter lag with this E-30 which is a killer point for my intention for using the camera.
I've got the E-330 and i am pretty happy with its live view mode A. Hope there will be soon a good olympus successor with a useful live view.
best regards
roland
I am planning to use the cam for Underwater Photography, so there shouldn't be ANY shutter lag at all cause the fishes are moving quite fastly ;-)
So, regarding your answers i have to expect a shutter lag with this E-30 which is a killer point for my intention for using the camera.
I've got the E-330 and i am pretty happy with its live view mode A. Hope there will be soon a good olympus successor with a useful live view.
best regards
roland
If it has a decent contrast detect autofocus like the G-1, it may not need mode A (with the right lenses). This would actually be the preferable solution.
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Raist3d
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is also a very important thing. Both are important. Depending on the domain one or the other won't matter. For stills having lagless live view doesn't matter much at all. For street life and people, or moving things, it does.
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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
--
Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
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Raist3d
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That's not the issue, the issue is full shutter lag. Apparently it will have fast contrast AF with the 14-54II, but the question is also how fast it goes from liveview to shot taken, after that focusing. This is what makes live view mode A of the e-330 great, besides the fast focusing.
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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
If it's anything like the G-1, I think people will be really happy with the shutter lag as well. Liveview mode A may no longer be needed. We'll see.
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Gato Amarillo
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I have to guess that the E-30 will continue the excess mirror action, with the mirror dropping and going back up before the shutter fires in live view. Thus the longish delay. Seems if this had changed it would have been worth mentioning in the announcement.
At this point I am hoping the new 14-54 will be fully compatible with the G1. That seems to be my best hope of getting a really nice live view implementation to upgrade my 330 within the next few months.
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Gato
At this point I am hoping the new 14-54 will be fully compatible with the G1. That seems to be my best hope of getting a really nice live view implementation to upgrade my 330 within the next few months.
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Gato
Olympus uk. no change from E520, both the same.
"Comfortable viewing with Autofocus Live View"
It is a mirror camera, not a G1.
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"Comfortable viewing with Autofocus Live View"
It is a mirror camera, not a G1.
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E33o 2x kit,E 51o 2x kit, EX 25, 35mm, 5omm; EC2o, 7o-3oo
Louis_Dobson
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E330 your best bet. Best bet in the future will probably be G1.
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It really depends on how well it's implemented. A new generation sensor may have advances in this area (like not needing to close the mirror before taking the shot). Personally, I'd wait for the reviews before condeming it.
dgrogers
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--Olympus uk. no change from E520, both the same.
"Comfortable viewing with Autofocus Live View"
It is a mirror camera, not a G1.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/satyrium_w/
E33o 2x kit,E 51o 2x kit, EX 25, 35mm, 5omm; EC2o, 7o-3oo
dgrogers
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