Saving a Master - Can I Edit it a Bit First Please??

I have been diligently grabbing images straight from Camedia and immediately saving them to CDRW without changing anything (not even the filename).

This doesn't appear ideal though, because the default filename tells me almost nothing and most of my images need rotating before they are viewable.

What I would like to do is use PIE (Picture Information Extractor) to do a lossless rotation and a batch file rename to incorporate the key exif details into the filename. If I save this as my master it will have a useful name and be immediately viewable (since it has been rotated). It will also retain it's EXIF details (although I have found that a freeware EXIF Viewer can't read it anymore - all other apps {eg. Thumbsplus, Camedia, Q Image, Image N} still can.

Any thoughts?

Scott

I take a minimalist approach. I try to do the least amount of work.
I use the original filenames. So far, the camera has mostly behaved and
not generated duplicate names. Once the camera forgot the sequence
number, but I was able reset the sequence number in the camera by
loading an SM card into the camera that contained a file with the desired
starting sequence number in the name.

One thing I like about the original names is that they are easy to remember
and type. So I use the original names, and use subdirectories to distingush
originals from edited versions.

My directory tree is something like this:

\from-2020\original\ - all originals, with R attribute set!
\from-2020\000429\ - edited files from 4/29/00; original names.
\from-2020\000429\600\ - edited files; resized to 600 pixels wide
\from-2020\000429\100\ - thumbnails

I don't worry too much about carrying exif info around. If I need
to know something, such as the exact time or camera settings,
I get the info from the original.

Roy F.

Scott Caddaye said:

I have been diligently grabbing images straight from Camedia and
immediately saving them to CDRW without changing anything
(not even the filename).

This doesn't appear ideal though, because the default filename tells me
almost nothing and most of my images need rotating before they are
viewable.

What I would like to do is use PIE (Picture Information Extractor) to do
a lossless rotation and a batch file rename to incorporate the key exif
details into the filename. If I save this as my master it will have a
useful name and be immediately viewable (since it has been rotated). It
will also retain it's EXIF details (although I have found that a freeware
EXIF Viewer can't read it anymore - all other apps {eg. Thumbsplus,
Camedia, Q Image, Image N} still can.

Any thoughts?

Scott

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I am doing a sort of hybrid of what you have described below. Even though I am experimenting with rotation and renames, I am definitely using a directory structure like you describe.

I use:
Olympus 2020\Masters .... for my rotated renamed files (these go to CDRW)
Olympus 2020\Enhanced for Print .... cropped, enhanced (eg. contrast,
brightness), sharpened, date stamped etc
(These go to CDRW too)
Olympus 2020\Resized for Zing .... resized to no more than either 768 deep or
1024 pixels wide (no need for CDRW as they
go up to Zing)

As far as the minimalist approach - I will no doubt get there with time when I am overwhelmed with a backlog of images. At the moment, PIE does the renames in batch (very speedy) and will also do batch rotations (pretty fast) so I will see how I go.

Thanks again for the reply.

Scott

Roy F. said:

One thing I like about the original names is that they are easy to remember
and type. So I use the original names, and use subdirectories to distingush
originals from edited versions.

My directory tree is something like this:

\from-2020\original\ - all originals, with R attribute set!
\from-2020\000429\ - edited files from 4/29/00; original names.
\from-2020\000429\600\ - edited files; resized to 600 pixels wide
\from-2020\000429\100\ - thumbnails

I don't worry too much about carrying exif info around. If I need
to know something, such as the exact time or camera settings,
I get the info from the original.

Roy F.

Scott Caddaye said:

I have been diligently grabbing images straight from Camedia and
immediately saving them to CDRW without changing anything
(not even the filename).

This doesn't appear ideal though, because the default filename tells me
almost nothing and most of my images need rotating before they are
viewable.

What I would like to do is use PIE (Picture Information Extractor) to do
a lossless rotation and a batch file rename to incorporate the key exif
details into the filename. If I save this as my master it will have a
useful name and be immediately viewable (since it has been rotated). It
will also retain it's EXIF details (although I have found that a freeware
EXIF Viewer can't read it anymore - all other apps {eg. Thumbsplus,
Camedia, Q Image, Image N} still can.

Any thoughts?

Scott

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Scott Caddaye said:

What I would like to do is use PIE (Picture Information Extractor) to do
a lossless rotation and a batch file rename to incorporate the key exif
details into the filename. If I save this as my master it will have a
useful name and be immediately viewable (since it has been rotated). It
will also retain it's EXIF details

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That is EXACTLY what I do, Scott. I haven't found a down side.

Noel

Thanks Noel - maybe I am on the right track (I hope so).

Scott

Noel Carboni said:

Scott Caddaye said:

What I would like to do is use PIE (Picture Information Extractor) to do
a lossless rotation and a batch file rename to incorporate the key exif
details into the filename. If I save this as my master it will have a
useful name and be immediately viewable (since it has been rotated). It
will also retain it's EXIF details

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That is EXACTLY what I do, Scott. I haven't found a down side.

Noel

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Scott Caddaye said:

Thanks Noel - maybe I am on the right track (I hope so).

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You're welcome, Scott.

One thing I forgot to mention is that I've asked the PIE developers for an option that sets the files to read-only. This would offer an extra measure of protection, not to mention a confirmation that redating has been done (if you choose not to rename).

Noel