D100 Dust/Purchase advise

iride1966 · Jul 7, 2002

I have ordered a D100, two week wait I'm told. I have been actively reading this forum about the D100 and Digital SLR's since I am new to Digital photograhpy. I have seen MUCH discussion about dust on the CCD and the dificulty and risk of cleaning it. This is alarming me a great deal and making me question if I should be purchasing an SLR or if I should fall back to a consumer level digicam.

My specific question is this: If I put a broad zoom, like a 24 to 200 Nikon, on this camera and just avoid changing lenses will dust on the CCD be a problem? I.e. if I don't change lenses can dust get on the CCD?

The obvious response is "why buy an SLR if you don't want to change lenses". While this is true, I really want the quick shutter response and quick cycle times that the D100 will give me vs. a consumer digicam. When I press the button, I want it to take the picture so I opted for the D100. However, this dust thing has me scared since I am not a professional and cannot afford to ruin a camera by improperly cleaning the CCD. (I'm also all thumbs, so if someone were to ruin one, it would be me). Should I cancel the D100 and look at the 5700 or the Oly E20? Or is this not as big a deal as it sounds.

Roger Greenberg · Jul 7, 2002

The 24-200 is a lens that will not do the D100 justice. You will also get dust in since the zoom will suck air into the camera. If you only plan to put this lens on the camera and will not clean the CCD then I would not purchase the D100.

iride1966 said:
I have ordered a D100, two week wait I'm told. I have been
actively reading this forum about the D100 and Digital SLR's since
I am new to Digital photograhpy. I have seen MUCH discussion about
dust on the CCD and the dificulty and risk of cleaning it. This is
alarming me a great deal and making me question if I should be
purchasing an SLR or if I should fall back to a consumer level
digicam.

My specific question is this: If I put a broad zoom, like a 24 to
200 Nikon, on this camera and just avoid changing lenses will dust
on the CCD be a problem? I.e. if I don't change lenses can dust
get on the CCD?

The obvious response is "why buy an SLR if you don't want to change
lenses". While this is true, I really want the quick shutter
response and quick cycle times that the D100 will give me vs. a
consumer digicam. When I press the button, I want it to take the
picture so I opted for the D100. However, this dust thing has me
scared since I am not a professional and cannot afford to ruin a
camera by improperly cleaning the CCD. (I'm also all thumbs, so if
someone were to ruin one, it would be me). Should I cancel the
D100 and look at the 5700 or the Oly E20? Or is this not as big a
deal as it sounds.

iride1966 · Jul 8, 2002

Ok, so I am going to have to clean the CCD if I want SLR responsiveness. Has anyone actually damaged their cameras by cleaning the CCD? Is the risk blown far out of proportion? Is this something that an all thumbs person can master? I'm just not sure I can live with a P&S response time on both autofocus and shutter lag.

Out of curiosity what's wrong with the 24-200 lens, and what lens would you recommend? I have no Nikon lenses, so I have to buy something to get me started. A cheap one would be the 28-100G. But I figure this forum will hate that lens.

Roger Greenberg said:
iride1966 said:

I have ordered a D100, two week wait I'm told. I have been
actively reading this forum about the D100 and Digital SLR's since
I am new to Digital photograhpy. I have seen MUCH discussion about
dust on the CCD and the dificulty and risk of cleaning it. This is
alarming me a great deal and making me question if I should be
purchasing an SLR or if I should fall back to a consumer level
digicam.

My specific question is this: If I put a broad zoom, like a 24 to
200 Nikon, on this camera and just avoid changing lenses will dust
on the CCD be a problem? I.e. if I don't change lenses can dust
get on the CCD?

The obvious response is "why buy an SLR if you don't want to change
lenses". While this is true, I really want the quick shutter
response and quick cycle times that the D100 will give me vs. a
consumer digicam. When I press the button, I want it to take the
picture so I opted for the D100. However, this dust thing has me
scared since I am not a professional and cannot afford to ruin a
camera by improperly cleaning the CCD. (I'm also all thumbs, so if
someone were to ruin one, it would be me). Should I cancel the
D100 and look at the 5700 or the Oly E20? Or is this not as big a
deal as it sounds.

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darren kelly · Jul 8, 2002

iride1966 wrote:
I have no Nikon lenses, so I have to buy

iride1966 said:
something to get me started. A cheap one would be the 28-100G.
But I figure this forum will hate that lens.

Buy what makes you happy. Forget the forum's opinion. There are lots of great lens's you can buy that are affordable. You might like the quality of a 3rd party lens like Tamron or Sigma and get a better quality lens than with a Pro Nikon.

Many people are looking at Nikon's 24-85 and seem to like it. I really like the Tamron SP line and the Sigma EX line.

Good luck

DBK

Jerome47940 · Jul 8, 2002

Darren

I have only had one Sigma lens. Worked fine for a year and looks fine. never been near sand nor salt water.

The autofocus gearing managed to strip itself and now does not work and it would cost me at least £60 or more to have it repaired. I would never get that sort of problem with a Nikon or a Canon lens.
Do you think I would buy a Sigma again? no chance.
Maker's lenses may cost a lot more but they hold their value
Jerome Y.

Dave Angel · Jul 8, 2002

Understand that I've got a new D100, and no previous D-SLR. So this is not the voice of experience. However, my hope is that by changing the lens only seldom, the dust won't be a problem very often. I'm hoping I can have the dealer clean it about every six months, and not mess with it myself at all.

That's a small price to pay, compared to the purchase price of camera and lenses.

Backup plan: I might try cleaning with just a bulb to blow out dust. But I'll still have to buy the bulb (I don't trust aerosols), and the AC power supply. So it'll probably take a few cleanings before it pays off.

About the lens: I went whole-hog and got the 28-70 AFS. My only gripe is it's rather heavy. Second choice was probably the 24-105, but I didn't actually get to see one.

I've yet to select wide angle or tele lenses. Figured I could learn the camera with an excellent mid-range zoom, then see what plays out.

iride1966 said:
Out of curiosity what's wrong with the 24-200 lens, and what lens
would you recommend? I have no Nikon lenses, so I have to buy
something to get me started. A cheap one would be the 28-100G.
But I figure this forum will hate that lens.

Roger Greenberg said:

iride1966 said:

I have ordered a D100, two week wait I'm told. I have been
actively reading this forum about the D100 and Digital SLR's since
I am new to Digital photograhpy. I have seen MUCH discussion about
dust on the CCD and the dificulty and risk of cleaning it. This is
alarming me a great deal and making me question if I should be
purchasing an SLR or if I should fall back to a consumer level
digicam.

My specific question is this: If I put a broad zoom, like a 24 to
200 Nikon, on this camera and just avoid changing lenses will dust
on the CCD be a problem? I.e. if I don't change lenses can dust
get on the CCD?

The obvious response is "why buy an SLR if you don't want to change
lenses". While this is true, I really want the quick shutter
response and quick cycle times that the D100 will give me vs. a
consumer digicam. When I press the button, I want it to take the
picture so I opted for the D100. However, this dust thing has me
scared since I am not a professional and cannot afford to ruin a
camera by improperly cleaning the CCD. (I'm also all thumbs, so if
someone were to ruin one, it would be me). Should I cancel the
D100 and look at the 5700 or the Oly E20? Or is this not as big a
deal as it sounds.

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owigawa · Jul 8, 2002

how do you know if you have dust on the CCD? and what happens if you don't clean it?

David Cappello · Jul 8, 2002

Dave, I did the same thing today. I am shocked at how heavy that

lens really is, but after shooting just about everything in sight in my house/office
400 frames later you kinda stop feeling how heavy and big it really is.
I didn't have much light when I got home but this is
the first photo out of the D100 with the 28-70 lens, I am new to
all of this and I didn't even read the book - clicked the lens on,
formated the CF card - walked outside and shot the spider in my BBQ

So reading the book on how to clean the D100 - doesn't seem to
be that hard. I have been shooting with a sony P5, P9 and F707
before the D100 - the fast response time of the D100 is very welcome,
now I have much to learn and RTFM.
-david

Dave Angel said:
That's a small price to pay, compared to the purchase price of
camera and lenses.

Backup plan: I might try cleaning with just a bulb to blow out
dust. But I'll still have to buy the bulb (I don't trust
aerosols), and the AC power supply. So it'll probably take a few
cleanings before it pays off.

About the lens: I went whole-hog and got the 28-70 AFS. My only
gripe is it's rather heavy. Second choice was probably the 24-105,
but I didn't actually get to see one.

I've yet to select wide angle or tele lenses. Figured I could
learn the camera with an excellent mid-range zoom, then see what
plays out.

iride1966 said:

Out of curiosity what's wrong with the 24-200 lens, and what lens
would you recommend? I have no Nikon lenses, so I have to buy
something to get me started. A cheap one would be the 28-100G.
But I figure this forum will hate that lens.

Roger Greenberg said:

iride1966 said:

I have ordered a D100, two week wait I'm told. I have been
actively reading this forum about the D100 and Digital SLR's since
I am new to Digital photograhpy. I have seen MUCH discussion about
dust on the CCD and the dificulty and risk of cleaning it. This is
alarming me a great deal and making me question if I should be
purchasing an SLR or if I should fall back to a consumer level
digicam.

My specific question is this: If I put a broad zoom, like a 24 to
200 Nikon, on this camera and just avoid changing lenses will dust
on the CCD be a problem? I.e. if I don't change lenses can dust
get on the CCD?

The obvious response is "why buy an SLR if you don't want to change
lenses". While this is true, I really want the quick shutter
response and quick cycle times that the D100 will give me vs. a
consumer digicam. When I press the button, I want it to take the
picture so I opted for the D100. However, this dust thing has me
scared since I am not a professional and cannot afford to ruin a
camera by improperly cleaning the CCD. (I'm also all thumbs, so if
someone were to ruin one, it would be me). Should I cancel the
D100 and look at the 5700 or the Oly E20? Or is this not as big a
deal as it sounds.

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Greg Gebhardt · Jul 9, 2002

Roger Greenberg said:
iride1966 said:

I have ordered a D100, two week wait I'm told. I have been
actively reading this forum about the D100 and Digital SLR's since
I am new to Digital photograhpy. I have seen MUCH discussion about
dust on the CCD and the dificulty and risk of cleaning it. This is
alarming me a great deal and making me question if I should be
purchasing an SLR or if I should fall back to a consumer level
digicam.

My specific question is this: If I put a broad zoom, like a 24 to
200 Nikon, on this camera and just avoid changing lenses will dust
on the CCD be a problem? I.e. if I don't change lenses can dust
get on the CCD?

The obvious response is "why buy an SLR if you don't want to change
lenses". While this is true, I really want the quick shutter
response and quick cycle times that the D100 will give me vs. a
consumer digicam. When I press the button, I want it to take the
picture so I opted for the D100. However, this dust thing has me
scared since I am not a professional and cannot afford to ruin a
camera by improperly cleaning the CCD. (I'm also all thumbs, so if
someone were to ruin one, it would be me). Should I cancel the
D100 and look at the 5700 or the Oly E20? Or is this not as big a
deal as it sounds.

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Seems the AFS lenses would be better as they should not suck as much dust into the camera

Greg Gebhardt
Jacksonville, Florida

iride1966 · Jul 9, 2002

Well I guess what I am wondering is has anyone out here actually damaged their CCD by cleaning it? Is the cleaning problem blown out of proportion and should I be concerned. I really hate the idea of cancelling my D100 and buying the Sony 707. I really would like the responsiveness and flexibility of the D100, but I don't relish the idea of having a dead camera because I screwed up while cleaning it. I also don't like the idea of getting smears on the ccd and having to send it back to Nikon for cleaning.

Greg Gebhardt said:
Roger Greenberg said:

iride1966 said:

I have ordered a D100, two week wait I'm told. I have been
actively reading this forum about the D100 and Digital SLR's since
I am new to Digital photograhpy. I have seen MUCH discussion about
dust on the CCD and the dificulty and risk of cleaning it. This is
alarming me a great deal and making me question if I should be
purchasing an SLR or if I should fall back to a consumer level
digicam.

My specific question is this: If I put a broad zoom, like a 24 to
200 Nikon, on this camera and just avoid changing lenses will dust
on the CCD be a problem? I.e. if I don't change lenses can dust
get on the CCD?

The obvious response is "why buy an SLR if you don't want to change
lenses". While this is true, I really want the quick shutter
response and quick cycle times that the D100 will give me vs. a
consumer digicam. When I press the button, I want it to take the
picture so I opted for the D100. However, this dust thing has me
scared since I am not a professional and cannot afford to ruin a
camera by improperly cleaning the CCD. (I'm also all thumbs, so if
someone were to ruin one, it would be me). Should I cancel the
D100 and look at the 5700 or the Oly E20? Or is this not as big a
deal as it sounds.

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Seems the AFS lenses would be better as they should not suck as
much dust into the camera

Greg Gebhardt
Jacksonville, Florida

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