Portrait using S2 Pro + Tamron SP 90 posted

WK Chick said:

Finally convinced one of my colleague as my portrait photo model.
The girl shows a bit timid and nervous. Just took less than 10
minutes during noon recess to took 5 pictures, so don't expect too
much. You can't compare it with a studio shot. I just want to show
what you can get from a digital camera and lens on a sunny day, no
flash, no reflective sheet.

I printed the picture on Super A3 (13" x 19") paper using Epson
Stylus Photo 1270 (the biggest paper size I got access) and was
impressed by the performance of the S2 Pro + Tamron SP 90
combination.

Shuuuh! Don't tell the others. I didn't ask for the girl's
permission to post her photo.

For those who really interested, here is the link:

http://www.pbase.com/wkchick/s2_pro

The picture (DSCF0107.jpg) was taken with highest resolution, JPEG
Fine compression, color, tone and shapness all set to standard
(default).

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Mark Palumbo said:

Is there moire visible in your A3 print? Is it visible on your
monitor of the original image? Was this introduced by pbase's
compression of the image?

Thank you for posting. Odd but the image is almost too sharp for a
portrait...where as on the Nikon SLR discussion group everyone
keeps talking about how soft D100 images are then others argue you
can post process them yada yada.

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Mark Palumbo said:

Is there moire visible in your A3 print? Is it visible on your
monitor of the original image? Was this introduced by pbase's
compression of the image?

Thank you for posting. Odd but the image is almost too sharp for a
portrait...where as on the Nikon SLR discussion group everyone
keeps talking about how soft D100 images are then others argue you
can post process them yada yada.

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WK Chick said:

Finally convinced one of my colleague as my portrait photo model.
The girl shows a bit timid and nervous. Just took less than 10
minutes during noon recess to took 5 pictures, so don't expect too
much. You can't compare it with a studio shot. I just want to show
what you can get from a digital camera and lens on a sunny day, no
flash, no reflective sheet.

I printed the picture on Super A3 (13" x 19") paper using Epson
Stylus Photo 1270 (the biggest paper size I got access) and was
impressed by the performance of the S2 Pro + Tamron SP 90
combination.

Shuuuh! Don't tell the others. I didn't ask for the girl's
permission to post her photo.

For those who really interested, here is the link:

http://www.pbase.com/wkchick/s2_pro

The picture (DSCF0107.jpg) was taken with highest resolution, JPEG
Fine compression, color, tone and shapness all set to standard
(default).

Click to expand...

WK Chick said:

For those who really interested, here is the link:

http://www.pbase.com/wkchick/s2_pro

The picture (DSCF0107.jpg) was taken with highest resolution, JPEG
Fine compression, color, tone and shapness all set to standard
(default).

Click to expand...

WK Chick said:

Finally convinced one of my colleague as my portrait photo model.
The girl shows a bit timid and nervous. Just took less than 10
minutes during noon recess to took 5 pictures, so don't expect too
much. You can't compare it with a studio shot. I just want to show
what you can get from a digital camera and lens on a sunny day, no
flash, no reflective sheet.

I printed the picture on Super A3 (13" x 19") paper using Epson
Stylus Photo 1270 (the biggest paper size I got access) and was
impressed by the performance of the S2 Pro + Tamron SP 90
combination.

Shuuuh! Don't tell the others. I didn't ask for the girl's
permission to post her photo.

For those who really interested, here is the link:

http://www.pbase.com/wkchick/s2_pro

The picture (DSCF0107.jpg) was taken with highest resolution, JPEG
Fine compression, color, tone and shapness all set to standard
(default).

Click to expand...

Ben C Davis said:

WK Chick said:

For those who really interested, here is the link:

http://www.pbase.com/wkchick/s2_pro

The picture (DSCF0107.jpg) was taken with highest resolution, JPEG
Fine compression, color, tone and shapness all set to standard
(default).

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Can You please try the same type of photo again, but, this time
try ORG,ORG,OFF. I like this setting on my S1. One can do the
sharp thing with their computer.

Ben 8)

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Rinus said:

The sharpness is a real problem with any portrait. The S2 shows
clearly that detail is not the problem but sharpness can be too
much. For years, people have been shooting on Hasselbladt and other
120 cameras with a soft focus lens firmly attached to their $
4000.00 lens. That is a real waste but very essential for most
portraiture. The large format gave very fine grain but too much
sharpness. The soft filter reduced the sharpness but did not affect
the grain of course. Most of us had a filter that would give us an
image that was soft but with a sharp core. Now that digital is
getting quite good with fine deatailed images, we again are going
to try to get rid of the skin pores and again we are looking for
some help somewhere. This time, the old diffuser could again be
used but there is a cleaner and more flexible way to do it.
There are two tools on Photoshop that can get similar results. The
first is to sharpen an unsharpened image.
Set your image to 100%
Go to Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask and use settings like 400/0.5/4
on images that are shot with the largest S2 size. Use 200/0.5/4 on
the S1 largest images. The first number is the amount of
sharpening. The second is the radius that it is considering for
detection of contrasty edges. The third number is how much
difference there needs to be between light and dark pixels for the
sharpening to work. The last number is a variable that keeps skin
with relative little differences in tone (less than 4 level)
unaffected by the sharpening. Anything over this threshhold will be
sharpened. That is mainly hair, eyelashes, jewelery, lip outlines
pupils etc. etc. The preview button or the hand on the preview
window can be used to see the effect before committing.
The second tool is to get rid of skin pores (caused by too much
sharpening) quickly.
Open the too sharp image and go to Filter/Blur/Smart Blur.
Use settings like 0.5/10 to 12/low/normal.
This filter blurs what has less levels difference than 10 to 12
(try both), mainly soft transitional areas like skin and solid
tones in clothing. The threshold prevents the sharper detail from
blurring like eyes, eyelashes, hair etc. etc.
As you can see, a lot better than a softfocus filter although, some
softfocus filters will still be used because we know what we get.
Another to remember, save backup files and experiment by printing
and comparing.
Rinus
If you want to see what can be done, go here and download the two
images with the reclining girls. They have great eye detail to test
my methods. Both are the RAW size output from the S2 and both are
shot without sharpening.
http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs2pro/sample.html

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Rinus said:

The sharpness is a real problem with any portrait. The S2 shows
clearly that detail is not the problem but sharpness can be too
much. For years, people have been shooting on Hasselbladt and other
120 cameras with a soft focus lens firmly attached to their $
4000.00 lens. That is a real waste but very essential for most
portraiture. The large format gave very fine grain but too much
sharpness. The soft filter reduced the sharpness but did not affect
the grain of course. Most of us had a filter that would give us an
image that was soft but with a sharp core. Now that digital is
getting quite good with fine deatailed images, we again are going
to try to get rid of the skin pores and again we are looking for
some help somewhere. This time, the old diffuser could again be
used but there is a cleaner and more flexible way to do it.
There are two tools on Photoshop that can get similar results. The
first is to sharpen an unsharpened image.
Set your image to 100%
Go to Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask and use settings like 400/0.5/4
on images that are shot with the largest S2 size. Use 200/0.5/4 on
the S1 largest images. The first number is the amount of
sharpening. The second is the radius that it is considering for
detection of contrasty edges. The third number is how much
difference there needs to be between light and dark pixels for the
sharpening to work. The last number is a variable that keeps skin
with relative little differences in tone (less than 4 level)
unaffected by the sharpening. Anything over this threshhold will be
sharpened. That is mainly hair, eyelashes, jewelery, lip outlines
pupils etc. etc. The preview button or the hand on the preview
window can be used to see the effect before committing.
The second tool is to get rid of skin pores (caused by too much
sharpening) quickly.
Open the too sharp image and go to Filter/Blur/Smart Blur.
Use settings like 0.5/10 to 12/low/normal.
This filter blurs what has less levels difference than 10 to 12
(try both), mainly soft transitional areas like skin and solid
tones in clothing. The threshold prevents the sharper detail from
blurring like eyes, eyelashes, hair etc. etc.
As you can see, a lot better than a softfocus filter although, some
softfocus filters will still be used because we know what we get.
Another to remember, save backup files and experiment by printing
and comparing.
Rinus
If you want to see what can be done, go here and download the two
images with the reclining girls. They have great eye detail to test
my methods. Both are the RAW size output from the S2 and both are
shot without sharpening.
http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs2pro/sample.html

Click to expand...

Rinus said:

The sharpness is a real problem with any portrait. The S2 shows
clearly that detail is not the problem but sharpness can be too
much. For years, people have been shooting on Hasselbladt and other
120 cameras with a soft focus lens firmly attached to their $
4000.00 lens. That is a real waste but very essential for most
portraiture. The large format gave very fine grain but too much
sharpness. The soft filter reduced the sharpness but did not affect
the grain of course. Most of us had a filter that would give us an
image that was soft but with a sharp core. Now that digital is
getting quite good with fine deatailed images, we again are going
to try to get rid of the skin pores and again we are looking for
some help somewhere. This time, the old diffuser could again be
used but there is a cleaner and more flexible way to do it.
There are two tools on Photoshop that can get similar results. The
first is to sharpen an unsharpened image.
Set your image to 100%
Go to Filter/Sharpen/Unsharp Mask and use settings like 400/0.5/4
on images that are shot with the largest S2 size. Use 200/0.5/4 on
the S1 largest images. The first number is the amount of
sharpening. The second is the radius that it is considering for
detection of contrasty edges. The third number is how much
difference there needs to be between light and dark pixels for the
sharpening to work. The last number is a variable that keeps skin
with relative little differences in tone (less than 4 level)
unaffected by the sharpening. Anything over this threshhold will be
sharpened. That is mainly hair, eyelashes, jewelery, lip outlines
pupils etc. etc. The preview button or the hand on the preview
window can be used to see the effect before committing.
The second tool is to get rid of skin pores (caused by too much
sharpening) quickly.
Open the too sharp image and go to Filter/Blur/Smart Blur.
Use settings like 0.5/10 to 12/low/normal.
This filter blurs what has less levels difference than 10 to 12
(try both), mainly soft transitional areas like skin and solid
tones in clothing. The threshold prevents the sharper detail from
blurring like eyes, eyelashes, hair etc. etc.
As you can see, a lot better than a softfocus filter although, some
softfocus filters will still be used because we know what we get.
Another to remember, save backup files and experiment by printing
and comparing.
Rinus
If you want to see what can be done, go here and download the two
images with the reclining girls. They have great eye detail to test
my methods. Both are the RAW size output from the S2 and both are
shot without sharpening.
http://home.fujifilm.com/products/digital/digitalcamera/fxs2pro/sample.html

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