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--Pictures (100) from one of the five representation of "Cirque du Soleil " held on october the 18th in Quebec city for the 400 anniversary of the city.All pictures taken at 1600 ISO and at very low speed i.e:1\4,1\5,1\10,1\22,some at1\52 sec,but most at very low speed and hand held.Please enjoy the pictures for what they are-rare moment of beauty,joy,dreams and a rich history...-You are welcome to make any comments regarding those pictures.No pp. and on awd.This camera did a fantastic job,I think!

http://community.webshots.com/user/simonnadeau?action=publicAlbums

olympus C8080,canon 800is,canon 650is,panasonic fz18,fuji F100fd,Rebel Xsi

P.S.: I hope this first posting of mine will suscite some interesting discussion betwen you and the low light possibilities of this small pocket camera! which I will say are better,more color rich and with much more details than fuji F30 pictures in spite of its possibilities of manual settings.

Have fun..

F100FDshot!!!
 
--Pictures (100) from one of the five representation of "Cirque du
Soleil " held on october the 18th in Quebec city for the 400
anniversary of the city.All pictures taken at 1600 ISO and at very
low speed i.e:1\4,1\5,1\10,1\22,some at1\52 sec,but most at very low
speed and hand held.Please enjoy the pictures for what they are-rare
moment of beauty,joy,dreams and a rich history...-You are welcome to
make any comments regarding those pictures.No pp. and on awd.This
camera did a fantastic job,I think!
Thanks for posting, I appreciate Cirque, but the subjects are blurry, what aspect of these shots do you think is "fantastic"? I am not being confrontational, I'm just asking...why do you say this?

No doubt the venue is a challenge to shoot, and only certain p&s can pull this off (if at all), but in the hands of someone who knows the camera, its metering, optimal settings, handholding technique and low light shooting in general, and even then pp should be done. My English teacher is probably rolling in her grave based on that sentence.
http://community.webshots.com/user/simonnadeau?action=publicAlbums

olympus C8080,canon 800is,canon 650is,panasonic fz18,fuji
F100fd,Rebel Xsi
P.S.: I hope this first posting of mine will suscite some interesting
discussion betwen you and the low light possibilities of this small
pocket camera! which I will say are better,more color rich and with
much more details than fuji F30 pictures in spite of its
possibilities of manual settings.

Have fun..

F100FDshot!!!
I have been looking for a replacement for my current p&s box, the F30. In the context of the postscript above, I cannot see why I'd "upgrade" to a F100fd. In a couple years I wonder what you'll think of these shots. You'll have a fine memory for sure...
 
--Keep the F30(I gave mine to my dauther and she likes it a lot and do pretty fine pictures with it by the way).

Not whitstanding that I am her father she is a pretty dawn good Photographer.

I am so sorry for your teacher,it's heart is really fragile(lol)

By the way,you are trowing away a great camera by rejecting with such candor the Fuji F100fd.

Be a little bit more modern and make the switch!!!(lol)

In the end what is important is the pleasure you have looking at your pictures.

I dig them.Its all about emotion and painting with light.

It was a magic evening,a fantastic one and what i have left as memory is those pictures and they suit me well,sorry for you if they dont.

It is my way of looking at life and not yours.Aren't you a bit jealous and preposterous...

Remember this: 1600 iso,awb,1/4 1/5 1/12 1/22 sec, pictures with a lot of movements in front of you all the time and you try to stop that mvt with very low light available.Going to 3200 iso was not an option for me.

On that final note fuji F30 is a good camera and fuji F100fd is also a good camera and I pretty sure you would not have done better with your camera.DSLR like:Nikon D3,NikonD300, NikonD700,canonD5mark11,sony Alpha 900 all with prime lens 1.2,1.4,1.8 would have done much better but i d'int had them for now!!! Sorry to disapoint you with the quality of my pictures...

Anyway,whatever, have a good night sleep and thank you for your comments and I respected them and you as a photographer who have the same goal as me I say thanks.

F100fdshot
 
--Keep the F30(I gave mine to my dauther and she likes it a lot and
do pretty fine pictures with it by the way).

Not whitstanding that I am her father she is a pretty dawn good
Photographer.

I am so sorry for your teacher,it's heart is really fragile(lol)

By the way,you are trowing away a great camera by rejecting with such
candor the Fuji F100fd.

Be a little bit more modern and make the switch!!!(lol)

In the end what is important is the pleasure you have looking at your
pictures.
True, but you asked for c&c.

I generally refrain from giving c&c, especially the latter "c", because of the emotional response some people have to getting what they ask for.
I dig them.Its all about emotion and painting with light.

It was a magic evening,a fantastic one and what i have left as memory
is those pictures and they suit me well,sorry for you if they dont.
Yep, I'm sure. Just like I adore the baby snapshots of my kids.
It is my way of looking at life and not yours.Aren't you a bit
jealous and preposterous...
Cute, thanks for the chuckle.
Remember this: 1600 iso,awb,1/4 1/5 1/12 1/22 sec, pictures with a
lot of movements in front of you all the time and you try to stop
that mvt with very low light available.Going to 3200 iso was not an
option for me.
Yes, I did keep it in mind. I appreciate what you posted was really more of a memory series than anything else. I take that on its face, it's okay.

However, in retrospect, I don't think you really wanted c&c. Since no one responded, I thought I would, and I'll reiterate that this is a challenging situation to shoot in, made all the more challenging with the F100fd because it lacks shutter priority mode.

Next time, maybe just don't ask for c&c. Perhaps just share a series of snaps of a great time you had. I for one could use a little lighthearted fun and enjoy looking at images like this, but not these in particular. The real disconnect for me was between these photos and your conclusion, but to each his own.
On that final note fuji F30 is a good camera and fuji F100fd is also
a good camera and I pretty sure you would not have done better with
your camera.DSLR like:Nikon D3,NikonD300,
NikonD700,canonD5mark11,sony Alpha 900 all with prime lens
1.2,1.4,1.8 would have done much better but i d'int had them for
now!!! Sorry to disapoint you with the quality of my pictures...
I'm more disappointed in the assessment that the F100fd is somehow superior in low light. Would anyone buy this camera or assertion based on these photos? I don't say this as a fanboy of my camera, I WANT a new camera to replace all the aggravating aspects of the F30, but I haven't found that replacement. I keep waiting. It's still an economic decision as much as it is a technical one so even if brand x or y has a new camera, I'm not interested in dropping some coin on an incremental improvement or step back as a trade off for OIS or something.

The F30, among some others in the Fxx line, has the ability to control shutter speed. That is the only mode with which I would shoot this venue and is therefore a knockout criteria for the F100fd, let alone the images presented in this thread. OMMV. And you alluded to it regarding the "manual settings" comment, i.e., that the F30 has some granularity of control which the F100fd lacks.

I don't want to get into who would have done better, but my camera has shutter priority, yours doesn't. Not only would I have controlled shutter speed, but I would have exposed for the subject and lifted what was necessary in pp including any nr as appropriate given the need for high iso.

That's all...not the end of the world or an indictment on you. The F100fd is a fine camera more or less, but for you, not me, and for more daylight use or slow action, not low light or fast action where shutter control is helpful if not outright needed.
Anyway,whatever, have a good night sleep and thank you for your
comments and I respected them and you as a photographer who have the
same goal as me I say thanks.

F100fdshot
Likewise, you are welcome. I hope you take this in the positive way it's intended. I would have a very positive memory of this event too. I just don't think I'd draw the same conclusion.
 
--Thank you once again for your comments and it is appreciated.

But,there is always a but!:But this camera has 28mm,140mm,true image stabilisation as you all know by now and has 12mp but lack shutter and aperture priority and start at only 3.3 at 28mm.

By the way I shot a lot at 28mm and 140 mm in that particular serie that I love so much(LOL).The spectacle was in a coliseum that is wide and the action was at some point very far away.

When I look at the exif of the pictures I have taken I remark that when I shot portraiture ,when face detection kick in,the camera had a tendency to close the diaphragm a little more and lower down the shutter speed consequently too much

and at that point a and s priority could have made a difference but the action in front of me was so fast and furious that I would have miss a lot of opportunities.

Action was everywhere in the coliseum at some point and the automatic of the camera in spite of it's "alea" was welcome.

Yes there way have been miss opportunities that night because of a lack of manual settings and some blurry pictures too but I think I succeeded in convening the ambiance of the spectacle anyhow...

Yes:emotion,art,pictures,quality pictures,life is a constant trade off...

That night I could had brought with me my canon xsi with my three lenses:50 mm 1.8;18-55is;55-200is but(there is always a but...lol) I was afraid to be stopped at the entry and not take any pictures at all.

O.k. enought of that disgression.

Have a good day and a nice week-end
 
Well done & thanks for these - I for one found your series of shots of such an event very enjoyable ! I'm disappointed to see certain negative comments re your shots - a couple of facts for those 'in the know' ...

1/ I have an F100fd, and also an F30 (...and an F11, TZ-3, 2 x D200, etc)... if you need to keep comparing them, get a life ! We know they're different cameras, with different strengths (& weaknesses), and neither is perfect, although each in its own way is a great compromise..

2/ I also own & regularly use a D3 and 24-70 ... important to note that it is NOT perfect - although it IS better than most, and certainly IS by far the the best so far under certain circumstances - eg weddings in dark churches, or fast action stuff ...but is far from useful under circumstances where you get stopped at the gate ! (as is any DSLR, or any other 'serious'-looking camera)

3/ I would assert that the reason most of us are into photography is because we really get a kick from being able to capture light/events/memories .. whatever you like to call them - and look back on what was recorded. Technically, one often has to compromise on equipment that enables you to even get in there and record it.

I await, with all of you, & with baited breath, for the Fuji compact we know they're capable of manufacturing - hopeful for news next year - but for now, thanks especially to KimberlyC's thread with plenty of exposure (ouch!) of great photography, it gives us all the opportunity to enjoy what we have for now
(God knows what MY English teacher would have made of that !)

PS For some that are that fussy, go get an H3D ... so much detail it could make a beautiful baby look downright UGLY !! Actually too much detail for some applications ... and forget it for high ISO, or even getting into the show in the first place, unless it's a commissioned job !

Cheers,
Nick

http://nickbland.zenfolio.com (F100fd/F30 etc)

http://www.proweddingphotos.co.uk (D3/D200)

--
NickPix
 
1/ I have an F100fd, and also an F30 (...and an F11, TZ-3, 2 x
D200, etc)... if you need to keep comparing them, get a life !
You must be directing this to the OP who initiated the comparison of the F100fd and the F30 in the first post.
 
--Thank you Nickpix for your comments,you said it all!

I Think we are having an interesting discussion about art and the different form it can take and the physical difficulties we sometimes have producing it...(not mentionning the instrument we use for producing it.)

Art is an emotion incarnated,no?
And sometimes the incarnation is hard to produce,no?
On october the 18 it was technically hard,pretty hard,to have perfect pictures

It wasnt me who was moving but the mvt that was to hard to stop with the available light and my instrument of work the F100fd.It would not have helped having a f30 and shutter priority because most of the times as I check the exif the diagram was wide open at 3.3 for 28mm,etc... and the shutter speed adjust for correct exposition meaning very slow speed as I said earlier:1/4,1/5,1/10, 1/22.

I am steady but(I repeat myself there this always a but...)there are physical limits over wich you can't go with a given instruments and you using it...As good as you think you are,those limits catch you and it's not shakiness...

By the way,Nickpix,I went to see your pictures and your are a pretty good photographer and steady as a rock...

Take that as a compliment.

That evening the show was so good that with the right istruments and organisation all of us with a little photography knowledge would have been able to take the pictures of our life about"circus" and may be create a book or two! about it,and you know what, I am very serious when I say that... Everything that night was and went like magic;I as you know mean the show.the light, the color,the music,the athletes,the going like a great film or concert or whatever greatness could be...

What I have left are those pictures wich are far from perfect,I convey, but I hope give a sense of the magic that was in my town that night.

I must confess that I am a born provokator and I guess that discusision could not have taken place in that form without the reply of dotbalm,which I thank for.

Every one have a good and pleasureful evening and if you have a minute or two go and check the pictures at:

http://community.webshots.com/user/simonnadeau?action=publicAlbums

P.S:on a final note, I have remark that the pictures files at webshots are heavily compress and the pictures does'nt show as good as the original files on my computer-End of the story-...

Good night
 
--That mostly concern doblaw and whoever is interrested by that discussion about the quality of the pictures taken with the F30 and the F100fd at high iso(1600).I must confess that in my enthousiam about my shots of the circle du soleil on the 400 ieme anniversary of Quebec city with my camera a F100fd I state that: quote(I will say are better,more color rich and with much more details than fuji F30 pictures in spite of its possibilities of manual settings).I must correct that.Having a fee minutes this afternoon, I went to Imaging Resource"Comparometer"where I check out the same images taken at 1600 by those cameras and noise wise at 1600 iso the F30 is the clear winner and to achieve about the same quality noise wise I must lower the iso to 800 on the F100fd and may be just a little lower than that but not much lower.That said I feel a little relief...

In the end truth is emerging...(lol)

I made the comparaison betwen the still life pictures at 1600 iso for the F30 and 800 iso for the F100fd(By the way I know that real life pictures is different.)

Here is the url: http://www.imaging-resource.com/IMCOMP/COMPS01.HTM

Further commentaries and dicussion are welcome

The pictures url is: http://community.webshots.com/user/simonnadeau

Every one have a good evening and if you have a minutes or two take a look at the pictures.

P.S.:I try to make that comparaison as objectively as I can but in this world subjectivism and relativism reign(is'nt that cute...!!!).
 

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