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* 9/21/2008 Weekly Landscape/Scenic Show & Tel

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All very nice exposures, but for me, the two roads image stands head and shoulders above them all. Quite engaging, and it leaves one to fill in the reason for those tracks and their use.

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

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sphinx002 said:
well I thought it was great, guess that's all that matters. :-)
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I saw it, and was waiting for Bob to comment. I am not a good critiic for abstracts. You are right, if you like it, it is a good image. I do understand however that it is nice to get feedback, even if its negative.

I can't say anything negative at all, and don't have a clue how to say anything positive regarding a from that I don't comprehend.
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http://www.pbase.com/roserus/root

Ben
 
I keep clicking on the picture to try and see more of the road at the close end.
Bob Tullis said:
All very nice exposures, but for me, the two roads image stands head
and shoulders above them all. Quite engaging, and it leaves one to
fill in the reason for those tracks and their use.

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...Bob, NYC
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5D, 17-40 f/4L at 17mm, f/9, 2sec, ISO100, desaturated and toned a bit in lightroom



5D, 24-70 f/2.8L at 24mm, f/8, 1sec, ISO100



5D, 24-70 f/2.8L at 24mm, f/9, 1sec, ISO100

 
Rick Knepper said:
Bob Tullis said:
Great to see the from-below view of the Mesa Arch - had no idea it
was so unassuming from that side. Thought you did a great job with
the hot reds of a strong sun reflecting under Mesa. . . but I'm just
awed by the Washer Woman arch. Is the first a sun rise or set?
Regardless, very powerful, love the dark color detail. Grand.
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Thanks, Bob.

All are of the same sunrise at different times during the arc.
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It is just amazing what detail you were able to pull from such a dark image. When I shoot this early in the morning, I let the camera find an exposure that typically is so long it looks like daylight. Something will be washed out, even with ND grads. It would be hard to use ND grads through an arch however. In any event, I seldom try to pull out an image from something this dark, you inspire me to rethink that.

I always bracket a lot, but seldom make HDRs for separate images, More often I use the same image with different conversions.

You bracket for DOF (I always want maximum DOF) so I bracket more for exposure. I wish I had such great eyesight that I could see the center sharpness you see. OOF corners or lack of DOF is easy enough. I go for uniformity over absolute center sharpness.

I was so worried that I went to an ophthalmologist yesterday to see if I had cataracts or macular degeneracy. He said my eyes show a bit of both, but still maybe 10 years away from serious stuff. The real problem for photography is simply extreme nearsightedness.
Rick Knepper said:
Here is the orginal untouched photo:

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Ben
 
Thanks for the kind comments Bob. Those two roads are actually the same road, just a turn around on a National Parks bus ride I took at the Tallgrass Prairie National Preserve.

Thanks for looking,

Roger
Bob Tullis said:
All very nice exposures, but for me, the two roads image stands head
and shoulders above them all. Quite engaging, and it leaves one to
fill in the reason for those tracks and their use.

--
...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little
Big Man

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

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The road to success is always under construction.

 
The road actually goes from the right to the top of the hill then back down again on the other side to the left.

Thanks for looking,

Roger
David Truland said:
Bob Tullis said:
All very nice exposures, but for me, the two roads image stands head
and shoulders above them all. Quite engaging, and it leaves one to
fill in the reason for those tracks and their use.

--
...Bob, NYC
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The road to success is always under construction.

 
Great shot. Did you happen to take any in landscape format?

I don't know what the scene actually looked like, but I can envision a pretty good composition in landscape, although the one you posted really works.
 
Roger Schliefert said:
Thanks for the kind comments Bob. Those two roads are actually the
same road, just a turn around on a National Parks bus ride I took at
the Tallgrass Prairie National Preserve.
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yeah, the bus at the top of the hill is a big part of the image. The viewer really want to zoom in on it. I suppose if it was moving you only had a bit of time to make the shots.
 
I thought that same thing Bob, but it's just part of the tree, a broken branch, but it sure looks like a bird, even has a bit of a tail

And the yellow sunrise was amazing to witness, for about 60 seconds that area turned a bright yellow, like nothing I've ever seen before.

Thanks for your kind words about the photos

Jim
Bob Tullis said:
That yellow obscured sunrise/set is great.

In the timothy grass/tree/moon, what bird is on the tree?

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little
Big Man

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

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First, I'd suggest that we each try to remember to rename the subject line of the message that introduces our images. Helps to wade through the topic when it gets populated.

That's to say, it took a few minutes to find this again. . . I didn't respond sooner, as I had a hard time with it, but didn't know how to say more than it feels edgy, and off balance, but not in an inviting way. I appreciate what you did, as well as the subject, yet. . . it does intrigue enough to ask if you have other views of this study. Just wonder if there's something I'd prefer that you feel is inferior. It goes that way, at times. :)

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
Ben_Egbert said:
It is just amazing what detail you were able to pull from such a dark
image.
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Cameras are amazing in this respect, frustrating in that I had to do a backflip in PP. :)
Ben_Egbert said:
When I shoot this early in the morning, I let the camera find
an exposure that typically is so long it looks like daylight.
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I have tried this route and tried brackets among other things. In this case, I shot with an exposure that would avoid clipping the sky. In PP, I discovered that a 2 stop bump (the maximum) exposed the ground reasonably well. So I converted two different renderngs out of DPP and blended them with masks and all of that cr@p.

Later, when PPing similar images, I tried HDRs using different variants of the same photo. Finally I got to where I would select the sky and turn that into a mask and adjust to taste if there weren't any lost detail.
Ben_Egbert said:
Something will be washed out, even with ND grads. It would be hard to
use ND grads through an arch however.
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Exactly.
Ben_Egbert said:
In any event, I seldom try to
pull out an image from something this dark, you inspire me to rethink
that.
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This is the first time I have been so bold. It works well in this type of scenery.
 
How did you find the two-RAW process, in the way of shadow noise?

I feel that if one is careful, that same result can be had w/o processing the RAW twice (though, likely it's harder to fine tune the shadow to midtone tones). Though, 1/2 of the time a bit of noise reduction will be necessary once brought into PS.

Regardless, I'm continually jazzed by what can be recovered from 5D exposures like this. The histogram guides well in this area (the image review is nice, but much less telling, and hence not as useful). Often I feel like a film shooter, not being able to quite tell what one is coming home with. And it's good.

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
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