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* 9/21/2008 Weekly Landscape/Scenic Show & Tel

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This one truly strikes me as 3-D.
Ben_Egbert said:
Same spot, Apr. 2007, 5D, 80mm, f8 ½ sec. ISO100. Probably the 24-105.

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I had the opportunity to view this scene (if not the same image) at a much larger size. Still looks good at postcard size.
Ben_Egbert said:
Stanley Idaho. A view from my deck looking at the Sawtooth’s over the
Salmon River. Less than $100 per night.
5D, 24-105 at 105mm, f8, 1.13 sec, ISO100.

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The first one really conveys the immensity of this geography. As does #4. Great sky on 1, I assume sunset?
  1. 2 3, and 4 really show the glow on the underside of the arch, especially like the effect in 3#.
Tough call, but I think #4 is my fav.

Ben

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Ben
 
I like the first shot. You and I differ in framing on some of the others though. However that is just a matter of preference (like the rock in the foreground of the one -second shot?, I'd have left that out)

The last shot bothers me. What were the settings? There is a lot of noise in the sky of it, and I was curious if that is from the camera or from sharpening the entire image instead of just the rock formations. I'm learning here too, and would like to know which it is.

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sphinx002 said:
Ok, I was studying the images so much I totally missed the image data.

That was ISO 800, then the noise is from the 5D or sharpening
artifacts? I say this because I've shot 800 ISO on the 40D and not
had this issue.
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I used to get sky noise at ISO100 on some shots. Not visible at web size, but bad enough to run neat image for prints. I would run neat image first and erase everything but the sky.
sphinx002 said:
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Ben
 
Well.. the Nikon lens form got all upset when I tried to do the same thing over there... so hopefully ya'll don't mind if I come back and visit here now and then :).

Here's a couple HDR composites from last night:





and a couple non-HDR



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D300, Yes... I've kissed my Canons goodbye :(
'You don't take a photograph. You ask, quietly, to borrow it.'
 
@sphinx: All of them are great captures.. each one unique in its own way.

Love the mist in the first shot. The composition and the perspective in the 2nd image is great. Love the sunlight in the last one.

Really wonderful. Thanks for sharing.
 
Hope I do this right. My first time embedding an image.

EOS 30D; EF28-90mm f/4-5.6 at 56.0 mm; F16; 1/50Sec; tripod & remote release; Raw image PP'd in DPP using Autumn Hues Picture Style.

I played around a bit with an HDR of this as I bracketed but nothing good came of it. Yet, at least.

 
I hear myself say, 'this is great', then move on, and invariably repeat myself.

Each one pulls me in and has me scouring the details w/o reservation, just getting lost in 'em. A fine, fine collection - yet the first for me is a notch above. Could look at that for hours.

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

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I've threatened, but you've done it - a series, I mean.

Good theme, lovely tour. I recall discussing the last image, but in a different context. Right now, I just see it as perfect. Really.

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
I have somewhat the same sense as AJ. Nicely exposed, good composition, but lacks a 'hook'.

A bit of Local area contrast (a USM of 15/35/0), and a kick up in saturation (maybe just raise the Red & Yellow saturation and luminance) might just do it.

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
Great to see the from-below view of the Mesa Arch - had no idea it was so unassuming from that side. Thought you did a great job with the hot reds of a strong sun reflecting under Mesa. . . but I'm just awed by the Washer Woman arch. Is the first a sun rise or set? Regardless, very powerful, love the dark color detail. Grand.

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
sphinx002 said:
I like the first shot. You and I differ in framing on some of the
others though. However that is just a matter of preference (like the
rock in the foreground of the one -second shot?, I'd have left that
out)
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I hear what you are saying, however.. I am trying to capture the many angles of Mesa Arch during the changing light of sunrise. Unfortunately for photogrpahers, not every angle at Mesa Arch is going to have an unobstructed view of both the Arch and of the canyon floor below. I have literally a hundred shots from that trip alone (not counting the trip in May) with unobstructed views through the Arch with the changing light but posting those would have been boring. I also have many with these kinds of views. For the purpose of my memories of the trip, the semi-obstructed views tell the larger story.

One of my favorite shots at Angel's Landing in Zion NP was taken with the Zeiss 21mm @f5.6. F5.6 is the sweet spot for the 21mm Distagon across the frame with the right subject matter. Most of the frame was far enough away that f5.6 handled the DoF well except for a bush in the front left which was too close for f5.6 and was a bit OOF. When I posted the image here, someone commented about that bush. I went back and looked at my f8, f11, & f16 shots and just felt that my original instinct was right for me. Most of that frame except for this one thing was sweet at f5.6, f8 didn't bring the bush into focus, f11 helped a bit but the center no longer had the crispness of f5.6, and f16 was clearly degrading the center (degraded relative to f5.6, not that the frame was so degraded as to appear that it came from a P&S).

btw, I always shoot a scene with f5.6, f8, f11, f16 so I have my choice of DoF with each.
sphinx002 said:
The last shot bothers me. What were the settings? There is a lot of
noise in the sky of it, and I was curious if that is from the camera
or from sharpening the entire image instead of just the rock
formations. I'm learning here too, and would like to know which it is.
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If you can bear with me until next week, there is a story to tell. I just needed to bring forward this one photo for my Mesa Arch "Exhibit". :)

btw, I will have Internet access next Sunday from my hotel room, for the rest of the week I will be at the Grand Canyon North Rim and other points of interest where there is no Internet access. If you could be so kind to get this thread started on Sunday so that I can post the aforementioned story and images. :) I'll be meeting Ben Egbert at the North Rim on one of those days.
 
I can't believe I actually have something to say here....usually with your stuff I'm taking notes.

1st image. I wish there was a bit more contrast to it. Usually your stuff has punch, which always draws me in, but this one seemed soft.

2nd image - I thought about this one on my drive into work and realized I need to do a sunset image with my longer telephoto to get my sun bigger and more dramatic. For the second time this week, I'm going to say that the noise bothered me. I'm not sure why, but I haven't dealt with this in my own photos. I've shot at higher ISO's but haven't run into a situation where noise became a distraction. That worries me because I begin to wonder if it's because I'm not tackling really tough shots?
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Well I'm an HDR fan, so biased towards them.

Like the first image because I love abstracts, and your take on that scene is really unique. I like the mood you set.

The sun scene...bet you wished for some clouds to make the image a tad more interesting. I've run into that myself. The sharpness of it really grabs me.

The last pic...well I can see why you did it as an HDR, I'd personally not have bothered with the original, but then there is my bias. I'm sure others might see beauty in it.

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AJ - Triscele Photography
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajabrams/sets/
 
jlangiewicz said:
Well.. the Nikon lens form got all upset when I tried to do the same
thing over there...
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You mean a 'landscape' topic? Or the fact that you're really a Canon shooter slumming it as a Nikon user? [grin-duck].

I like the first image, quite engaging for the foreground, but then lose it a bit in the sky. I'm not sure why - maybe the vignetting is too strong, or the green in the sky just throws me. A dang shame. :)

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...Bob, NYC

'Well, sometimes the magic works. Sometimes, it doesn't.' - Little Big Man

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
Hi Bob,

I always set the default settings on my 400D to "Neutral". Is this
a no no for shooting landscape in general ?

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Thien
Bob Tullis said:
I have somewhat the same sense as AJ. Nicely exposed, good
composition, but lacks a 'hook'.

A bit of Local area contrast (a USM of 15/35/0), and a kick up in
saturation (maybe just raise the Red & Yellow saturation and
luminance) might just do it.
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Man would I love a go at making this an HDR, The tirck I've found to the low light stuff with a really bright sky back ground is to set the middle exposure to -1 or lower. This means that the highest exposure is only +1 (if you do + - 2 bracketing like I do). That is just enough to get the foreground tree exposed well. It also means that you lowest exposure is low enough (-3) to get a proper sky.

As for the picture, I really like it and can see exactly what you were trying to do with it ( I think). It gives me a such a warm homey feeling.
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AJ - Triscele Photography
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajabrams/sets/
 
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