I am NOT happy:(((((

TheTeh · Jun 29, 2002

Sorry to moan about the 602 again but I just have to as my dream of owning a 602 just became a nightmare. I am currently a 6900 owner and have been thinking to upgrade to 602. I went into Jessops in London today and have a play with it.

My first impression upon holding it was that its feels plasticky and its build quality is not as solid as 6900. The power switch/shutter release button is really cheap! It feels fragile and wobbly when swithching from on to play or record. On several occassion, with I switch it too quicly from off to record, the camera did not respond at all!! I had to switch it back to off and then try again. I really don't think this power switch is going to last. The on/off switch of 6900 is far far better. After one year, it is still nice and solid.

My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my 6900. As this button is situated within the on/off switch, may be it is the cheap plastic design that affects its function. On several attemps, I failed to half-press (for focusing) and end up with unfocused images. The shutter release on 6900 feels solid and have a clearer 'half-press' and 'full press' steps.

Zoom button is badly designed and positioned. Ok, perhaps one can get used to it after awhile. I still prefer the design of 6900. May be I am used to it.

Super Macro is not really an improvement, I think it is just a gimmick/marketing tactics.

The main good point about 602 is its extremely quiet zoom and autofocus, unlike my aging 6900 which sounds like an old-fashion robot! Read write is extremely fast. Video (VGA) is really really good quality. Zoom can be pre-set before videoing and the 'half-press' could be used to autofocus just before recording the video!

I think my only concern is the on/off switch and the highly sensitive shutter release button. Other features of the camera are ok and may be with pratice and use, I still could get used to it. I have to think more carefully about upgrading since there is not much of a clear difference in image quality between the 602 and 6900.

The only points that are worth the 602 are:

AA batteries
Microdrive/SM
VGA Video/sound
very fast operation/quiet
may be a lower light capability than 6900

Are these points worth me forking out £550 or more for 602?

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Teck
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Bill C · Jun 29, 2002

Teck

Someone else questioned the switch - the switch on my camera is quite solid with very little wobble. Also, the shutter release button is just fine. I suggest you try another one if you can.
Bill

matt_x · Jun 29, 2002

I agree. My US model does not have any of the mentioned problems. Maybe the camera at the store has been mishandled by some of the people checking it out.

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Obi-Wan99493 · Jun 29, 2002

TheTeh said:
My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900. As this button is situated within the on/off switch, may be
it is the cheap plastic design that affects its function. On
several attemps, I failed to half-press (for focusing) and end up
with unfocused images. The shutter release on 6900 feels solid and
have a clearer 'half-press' and 'full press' steps.

Err....If you fully press the button without half-pressing it first it WILL auto-focus first and then take the picture. The total lag will only be greater. The 602 is not unlike any other camera in this department. Surely with your background in digital cameras you must know this? I don´t even own one, never have, and I know this. You really think that if you fully press the button without half-pressing it first to focus will result in the camera not focusing at all??

TheTeh said:
Zoom button is badly designed and positioned. Ok, perhaps one can
get used to it after awhile. I still prefer the design of 6900. May
be I am used to it.

Having played with both the 602 and previous models from fuji, I find the zoom controls much better positioned than on the 6900 or 4900, don´t like the barrel zoom control at all. Feels very nice under my thumb.

melvyn · Jun 29, 2002

Teck said:
Sorry to moan about the 602 again but I just have to as my dream of
owning a 602 just became a nightmare. I am currently a 6900 owner
and have been thinking to upgrade to 602. I went into Jessops in
London today and have a play with it.
My first impression upon holding it was that its feels plasticky
and its build quality is not as solid as 6900.

This mirrors my experiences with the 6800 and 601. The 601 is nowhere near as solid or as well built as the 6800 was. This is one area where Fuji seems to be cutting costs to reduce the price of their new cameras.

TheTeh said:
My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900.

I also noticed that the shutter button of the 601 didn't give such a nice tactile feedback as the one on the 6800.

Neither of the above are big problems. You get used to a certain quality, and you expect that quality to continue in newer models - but it's not always the case.

Melvyn.

mark allen · Jun 30, 2002

Teck said:
Sorry to moan about the 602 again but I just have to as my dream of
owning a 602 just became a nightmare. I am currently a 6900 owner
and have been thinking to upgrade to 602. I went into Jessops in
London today and have a play with it.

My first impression upon holding it was that its feels plasticky
and its build quality is not as solid as 6900. The power
switch/shutter release button is really cheap! It feels fragile and
wobbly when swithching from on to play or record. On several
occassion, with I switch it too quicly from off to record, the
camera did not respond at all!! I had to switch it back to off and
then try again. I really don't think this power switch is going to
last. The on/off switch of 6900 is far far better. After one year,
it is still nice and solid.

Mines the same.

TheTeh said:
My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900. As this button is situated within the on/off switch, may be
it is the cheap plastic design that affects its function. On
several attemps, I failed to half-press (for focusing) and end up
with unfocused images. The shutter release on 6900 feels solid and
have a clearer 'half-press' and 'full press' steps.

I had the same issue 'out of the box' but after a few day playing i can now use the 1/2 press to pre-focus with no problem.

TheTeh said:
Zoom button is badly designed and positioned. Ok, perhaps one can
get used to it after awhile. I still prefer the design of 6900. May
be I am used to it.

Again, now second nature after a bit of use i don't even think about it.

TheTeh said:
Super Macro is not really an improvement, I think it is just a
gimmick/marketing tactics.

Agreed, I prefer to use a more telephoto position and use CU lenses if I can't get close enough, allowing more available light or use of flash.

TheTeh said:
The main good point about 602 is its extremely quiet zoom and
autofocus, unlike my aging 6900 which sounds like an old-fashion
robot! Read write is extremely fast. Video (VGA) is really really
good quality. Zoom can be pre-set before videoing and the
'half-press' could be used to autofocus just before recording the
video!

I think my only concern is the on/off switch and the highly
sensitive shutter release button. Other features of the camera are
ok and may be with pratice and use, I still could get used to it. I
have to think more carefully about upgrading since there is not
much of a clear difference in image quality between the 602 and
6900.

The only points that are worth the 602 are:

AA batteries
Microdrive/SM
VGA Video/sound
very fast operation/quiet
may be a lower light capability than 6900

Are these points worth me forking out £550 or more for 602?

If you want a 2nd camera then go for it. If on the other hand you are looking to replace what you have and you don't need the other benefits in a hurry then it's probably worth waiting a year for the next evolution.

TheTeh said:
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TheTeh · Jun 30, 2002

Obi-Wan said:
You really think that if you fully press the button without
half-pressing it first to focus will result in the camera not
focusing at all??

Yes, I did get several blurred/out of focus images after pressing the shutter release (i.e. without half-pressing). The camera did take the picture without focusing!!!

Obi-Wan99493 said:
Having played with both the 602 and previous models from fuji, I
find the zoom controls much better positioned than on the 6900 or
4900, don´t like the barrel zoom control at all. Feels very nice
under my thumb.

The 6900 did have a zoom on the thumb position (on the 4-way button) which is closer to the thumb than the 602 which is on the top of the thumb. My hand is not so big, so I have to stretch my thumb to reach the zoom buttons on the 602, whereas I don't have to stretch my thumb with 6900.

I guess these are minor 'handling' issues which one can get used to after awhile.

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Mark (nl) · Jun 30, 2002

Not my sort of thread, but you are so far off I just had to hit reply

Teck said:
My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900.

Use it a bit longer and you'll find it is not too sensitive, in fact, in acts much better than on the 4900/6900.

TheTeh said:
Super Macro is not really an improvement, I think it is just a
gimmick/marketing tactics.

Agree with you there, but a (15 euro) 4x close up filter will give you roughly the same magnification as with super macro, big difference being you shoot at roughly 20 cm (8 inch) distance from your subject. No blacking out your subject, no distortion either. Of course that would work just as well as with the 6900.

Feel of the camera (you call it plastic???) is of course very personal, but you are one of the few that dislikes the 602 in that department.

TheTeh said:
The only points that are worth the 602 are:

AA batteries
Microdrive/SM
VGA Video/sound
very fast operation/quiet
may be a lower light capability than 6900

Are these points worth me forking out £550 or more for 602?

No, not 550, but surely you must have a nephew/friend that you can please with a 6900 present?

--
Regards, Mark

Albums: http://community.webshots.com/user/marksfinepix
602 test shots: http://www.pbase.com/markspix
(kept my 4900'r nickname, 602 now though)

Azrifel · Jun 30, 2002

Teck said:
My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900.

It took some getting used too, I agree. On the P1 you sometimes really have to push hard and my other analog camera's are less sensitive too. But after seriously using it yesterday, taking 100 usable shots (lot of 5s consecutive and selecting) I got used to it and I find it nice as you don't cause the camera to move much when you 'release' the button, keeping the framing nice.

--
Sander

TheTeh · Jun 30, 2002

Mark,

Thanks for your feedback. As you said, after awhile one can get the feel of how the camera works, especially the 'half-press' issue.

One of my eyes is now looking at Nikon 5700!! But my other eye is still reluctant to let go of 602 (much cheaper).

mark allen said:
Teck said:

Sorry to moan about the 602 again but I just have to as my dream of
owning a 602 just became a nightmare. I am currently a 6900 owner
and have been thinking to upgrade to 602. I went into Jessops in
London today and have a play with it.

My first impression upon holding it was that its feels plasticky
and its build quality is not as solid as 6900. The power
switch/shutter release button is really cheap! It feels fragile and
wobbly when swithching from on to play or record. On several
occassion, with I switch it too quicly from off to record, the
camera did not respond at all!! I had to switch it back to off and
then try again. I really don't think this power switch is going to
last. The on/off switch of 6900 is far far better. After one year,
it is still nice and solid.

Click to expand...

Mines the same.

mark allen said:

My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900. As this button is situated within the on/off switch, may be
it is the cheap plastic design that affects its function. On
several attemps, I failed to half-press (for focusing) and end up
with unfocused images. The shutter release on 6900 feels solid and
have a clearer 'half-press' and 'full press' steps.

Click to expand...

I had the same issue 'out of the box' but after a few day playing i
can now use the 1/2 press to pre-focus with no problem.

mark allen said:

Zoom button is badly designed and positioned. Ok, perhaps one can
get used to it after awhile. I still prefer the design of 6900. May
be I am used to it.

Click to expand...

Again, now second nature after a bit of use i don't even think
about it.

mark allen said:

Super Macro is not really an improvement, I think it is just a
gimmick/marketing tactics.

Click to expand...

Agreed, I prefer to use a more telephoto position and use CU lenses
if I can't get close enough, allowing more available light or use
of flash.

mark allen said:

The main good point about 602 is its extremely quiet zoom and
autofocus, unlike my aging 6900 which sounds like an old-fashion
robot! Read write is extremely fast. Video (VGA) is really really
good quality. Zoom can be pre-set before videoing and the
'half-press' could be used to autofocus just before recording the
video!

I think my only concern is the on/off switch and the highly
sensitive shutter release button. Other features of the camera are
ok and may be with pratice and use, I still could get used to it. I
have to think more carefully about upgrading since there is not
much of a clear difference in image quality between the 602 and
6900.

The only points that are worth the 602 are:

AA batteries
Microdrive/SM
VGA Video/sound
very fast operation/quiet
may be a lower light capability than 6900

Are these points worth me forking out £550 or more for 602?

Click to expand...

If you want a 2nd camera then go for it. If on the other hand you
are looking to replace what you have and you don't need the other
benefits in a hurry then it's probably worth waiting a year for the
next evolution.

mark allen said:

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Teck
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Click to expand...

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Teck
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TheTeh · Jun 30, 2002

Mark,

Mark (nl) said:
No, not 550, but surely you must have a nephew/friend that you can
please with a 6900 present?

Actually, I have promised my yonger brother that I will give my 6900 to him as a present once I buy the 602, but now I regretted saying this to him because I will miss my 6900. And, I am not so sure about buying the 602 now! I am starting to stray away from 602 to 5700! That will cost me a further £200? Aggg!!

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TheTeh · Jun 30, 2002

Hi Bill and matt,

you are right may be the display model might have been slightly worn off/damaged by regular handling by customers. But this should not happen if the built quality is good enough.

matt11281 said:
I agree. My US model does not have any of the mentioned problems.
Maybe the camera at the store has been mishandled by some of the
people checking it out.

--
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Finepix S602 Zoom (finally!)
http://www.pbase.com/matt_x
--------------------------
[email protected]
http://www.1redkat.com

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Teck
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TheTeh · Jun 30, 2002

Hi melvyn,

I am with you about the cost using cheap plastic. But all Fuji need to do is a better on/off/shutter release button, why not use the same design as the 6900, this will certainly be more cost effective than to make the new 602 design based on cheap plastic?

melvyn said:
Teck said:

Sorry to moan about the 602 again but I just have to as my dream of
owning a 602 just became a nightmare. I am currently a 6900 owner
and have been thinking to upgrade to 602. I went into Jessops in
London today and have a play with it.
My first impression upon holding it was that its feels plasticky
and its build quality is not as solid as 6900.

Click to expand...

This mirrors my experiences with the 6800 and 601. The 601 is
nowhere near as solid or as well built as the 6800 was. This is
one area where Fuji seems to be cutting costs to reduce the price
of their new cameras.

Member said:

My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900.

Click to expand...

I also noticed that the shutter button of the 601 didn't give such
a nice tactile feedback as the one on the 6800.

Neither of the above are big problems. You get used to a certain
quality, and you expect that quality to continue in newer models -
but it's not always the case.

Melvyn.

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Teck
http://www.teck.teh.cwc.net/lifeextract/index.htm

Duncan Burt · Jun 30, 2002

Hello Teck

When I first tried the 602, see my 6900 / 602 comparison post I did with Richard Dunn, one of my first comments was how sensitive the shutter was and how difficult I thought it would be to half press to focus etc, but within an hour I was used to it. I bought my 602 yesterday and the shutter now feels realy great, I think better than the 6900 I had before. Its just a matter of getting used to it, and trust me you will very quickly. As for the zoom control, I used to used the lens barrel zoom on the 6900 as I could never get used to the four way rocker without having to check which way I was going first. The 602 is really ituative in this respect and the rocker lies directly under my thumb.

In fact I think the button layout in general is better on the 602. I really like to options that can be open from the shift button, much better that the 6900 and the shift button is in a better place and you can feel it, it has a different feel

The on/off switch takes a little getting used to, but in many respects this is more intuative than the 6900. I agree you can fool the camera if you operate it to quickly, again part of the learning curve.

I must say I loved my 6900, but I am glad I did the "upgrade" the lens is quiter as you say, the lowlight focusing / sensitivity is much better, the EVF is far superior and some thing I thought I would never use is the video mode, but this is really fun for short burst at a party for instance....

So at the end of the day why not order one from one of the online dealer that has a no quibble return policy, and try it, I don't think you will be disappointed. I really not that easy to make a judgement on such tactile quality with a short test in a shop, you need to use it for a least a few hours if not days then you can really get a feel for it.

my two pence worth anyway....

Teck said:
Sorry to moan about the 602 again but I just have to as my dream of
owning a 602 just became a nightmare. I am currently a 6900 owner
and have been thinking to upgrade to 602. I went into Jessops in
London today and have a play with it.

My first impression upon holding it was that its feels plasticky
and its build quality is not as solid as 6900. The power
switch/shutter release button is really cheap! It feels fragile and
wobbly when swithching from on to play or record. On several
occassion, with I switch it too quicly from off to record, the
camera did not respond at all!! I had to switch it back to off and
then try again. I really don't think this power switch is going to
last. The on/off switch of 6900 is far far better. After one year,
it is still nice and solid.

My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900. As this button is situated within the on/off switch, may be
it is the cheap plastic design that affects its function. On
several attemps, I failed to half-press (for focusing) and end up
with unfocused images. The shutter release on 6900 feels solid and
have a clearer 'half-press' and 'full press' steps.

Zoom button is badly designed and positioned. Ok, perhaps one can
get used to it after awhile. I still prefer the design of 6900. May
be I am used to it.

Super Macro is not really an improvement, I think it is just a
gimmick/marketing tactics.

The main good point about 602 is its extremely quiet zoom and
autofocus, unlike my aging 6900 which sounds like an old-fashion
robot! Read write is extremely fast. Video (VGA) is really really
good quality. Zoom can be pre-set before videoing and the
'half-press' could be used to autofocus just before recording the
video!

I think my only concern is the on/off switch and the highly
sensitive shutter release button. Other features of the camera are
ok and may be with pratice and use, I still could get used to it. I
have to think more carefully about upgrading since there is not
much of a clear difference in image quality between the 602 and
6900.

The only points that are worth the 602 are:

AA batteries
Microdrive/SM
VGA Video/sound
very fast operation/quiet
may be a lower light capability than 6900

Are these points worth me forking out £550 or more for 602?

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Teck
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--
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Birmingham, England
http://www.pbase.com/duncanburt

Jake7 · Jun 30, 2002

Teck said:
Sorry to moan about the 602 again but I just have to as my dream of
owning a 602 just became a nightmare. I am currently a 6900 owner
and have been thinking to upgrade to 602. I went into Jessops in
London today and have a play with it.

My first impression upon holding it was that its feels plasticky
and its build quality is not as solid as 6900.

My 602 is my 4th Fuji; I can't see any difference in quality. The 602 seems just as solid as my 4900.

The power

TheTeh said:
switch/shutter release button is really cheap! It feels fragile and
wobbly when swithching from on to play or record.

Yes, I find that the on/off switch wobbles -- as have other purchasers; as yet this doesn't seem to be a problem. (It will if it drops off! -- Let's wait and see)

On several

TheTeh said:
occassion, with I switch it too quicly from off to record, the
camera did not respond at all!! I had to switch it back to off and
then try again. I really don't think this power switch is going to
last. The on/off switch of 6900 is far far better. After one year,
it is still nice and solid.

My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900. As this button is situated within the on/off switch, may be
it is the cheap plastic design that affects its function. On
several attemps, I failed to half-press (for focusing) and end up
with unfocused images. The shutter release on 6900 feels solid and
have a clearer 'half-press' and 'full press' steps.

I can't say I've had a problem with this at all.

TheTeh said:
Zoom button is badly designed and positioned. Ok, perhaps one can
get used to it after awhile. I still prefer the design of 6900. May
be I am used to it.

Yes, I prefer the 4900z's zoom, but after three weeks I've got used to the new one.

TheTeh said:
Super Macro is not really an improvement, I think it is just a
gimmick/marketing tactics.

Hmmm ... don't know about this one ... haven't tried it yet.

TheTeh said:
The main good point about 602 is its extremely quiet zoom and
autofocus, unlike my aging 6900 which sounds like an old-fashion
robot! Read write is extremely fast. Video (VGA) is really really
good quality. Zoom can be pre-set before videoing and the
'half-press' could be used to autofocus just before recording the
video!

I think my only concern is the on/off switch and the highly
sensitive shutter release button. Other features of the camera are
ok and may be with pratice and use, I still could get used to it. I
have to think more carefully about upgrading since there is not
much of a clear difference in image quality between the 602 and
6900.

TheTeh said:
The only points that are worth the 602 are:

AA batteries
Microdrive/SM
VGA Video/sound
very fast operation/quiet
may be a lower light capability than 6900

Less noise in pics in low light situations ?

TheTeh said:
Are these points worth me forking out £550 or more for 602?

Only you can decide. If it's not what you want -- don't buy it! Try another make or model -- or wait another 18 months to see what else comes along.

regards

TheTeh said:
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TheTeh · Jun 30, 2002

Hi Duncan,

Yes, I did see you and Richard's comparison on 6900/602 threads. To be honest, I still prefer the warmer colour of 6900. I really cannot tell that there is a great difference in image quality between the two cameras.

Another thing I realise is that the images on the LCD of 602 is not as sharp as in 6900. As I only use the LCD for framing, this will become another problem to me with 602?

One thing for sure I hate about the 6900 is its battery life. I am sure if I finally buy the 602, I won't be worrying about the battery!

Duncan Burt said:
When I first tried the 602, see my 6900 / 602 comparison post I did
with Richard Dunn, one of my first comments was how sensitive the
shutter was and how difficult I thought it would be to half press
to focus etc, but within an hour I was used to it. I bought my 602
yesterday and the shutter now feels realy great, I think better
than the 6900 I had before. Its just a matter of getting used to
it, and trust me you will very quickly. As for the zoom control, I
used to used the lens barrel zoom on the 6900 as I could never get
used to the four way rocker without having to check which way I was
going first. The 602 is really ituative in this respect and the
rocker lies directly under my thumb.
In fact I think the button layout in general is better on the 602.
I really like to options that can be open from the shift button,
much better that the 6900 and the shift button is in a better place
and you can feel it, it has a different feel

The on/off switch takes a little getting used to, but in many
respects this is more intuative than the 6900. I agree you can fool
the camera if you operate it to quickly, again part of the learning
curve.

I must say I loved my 6900, but I am glad I did the "upgrade" the
lens is quiter as you say, the lowlight focusing / sensitivity is
much better, the EVF is far superior and some thing I thought I
would never use is the video mode, but this is really fun for short
burst at a party for instance....

So at the end of the day why not order one from one of the online
dealer that has a no quibble return policy, and try it, I don't
think you will be disappointed. I really not that easy to make a
judgement on such tactile quality with a short test in a shop, you
need to use it for a least a few hours if not days then you can
really get a feel for it.

my two pence worth anyway....

Teck said:

Sorry to moan about the 602 again but I just have to as my dream of
owning a 602 just became a nightmare. I am currently a 6900 owner
and have been thinking to upgrade to 602. I went into Jessops in
London today and have a play with it.

My first impression upon holding it was that its feels plasticky
and its build quality is not as solid as 6900. The power
switch/shutter release button is really cheap! It feels fragile and
wobbly when swithching from on to play or record. On several
occassion, with I switch it too quicly from off to record, the
camera did not respond at all!! I had to switch it back to off and
then try again. I really don't think this power switch is going to
last. The on/off switch of 6900 is far far better. After one year,
it is still nice and solid.

My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900. As this button is situated within the on/off switch, may be
it is the cheap plastic design that affects its function. On
several attemps, I failed to half-press (for focusing) and end up
with unfocused images. The shutter release on 6900 feels solid and
have a clearer 'half-press' and 'full press' steps.

Zoom button is badly designed and positioned. Ok, perhaps one can
get used to it after awhile. I still prefer the design of 6900. May
be I am used to it.

Super Macro is not really an improvement, I think it is just a
gimmick/marketing tactics.

The main good point about 602 is its extremely quiet zoom and
autofocus, unlike my aging 6900 which sounds like an old-fashion
robot! Read write is extremely fast. Video (VGA) is really really
good quality. Zoom can be pre-set before videoing and the
'half-press' could be used to autofocus just before recording the
video!

I think my only concern is the on/off switch and the highly
sensitive shutter release button. Other features of the camera are
ok and may be with pratice and use, I still could get used to it. I
have to think more carefully about upgrading since there is not
much of a clear difference in image quality between the 602 and
6900.

The only points that are worth the 602 are:

AA batteries
Microdrive/SM
VGA Video/sound
very fast operation/quiet
may be a lower light capability than 6900

Are these points worth me forking out £550 or more for 602?

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TheTeh · Jul 4, 2002

Hi Jake7,

How do you feel about your 602 now so far? What would you improve? low light?

Jake7 said:
Teck said:

Sorry to moan about the 602 again but I just have to as my dream of
owning a 602 just became a nightmare. I am currently a 6900 owner
and have been thinking to upgrade to 602. I went into Jessops in
London today and have a play with it.

My first impression upon holding it was that its feels plasticky
and its build quality is not as solid as 6900.

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My 602 is my 4th Fuji; I can't see any difference in quality. The
602 seems just as solid as my 4900.

The power

Jake7 said:

switch/shutter release button is really cheap! It feels fragile and
wobbly when swithching from on to play or record.

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Yes, I find that the on/off switch wobbles -- as have other
purchasers; as yet this doesn't seem to be a problem. (It will if
it drops off! -- Let's wait and see)

On several

Jake7 said:

occassion, with I switch it too quicly from off to record, the
camera did not respond at all!! I had to switch it back to off and
then try again. I really don't think this power switch is going to
last. The on/off switch of 6900 is far far better. After one year,
it is still nice and solid.

My next BIG disappointment is the shutter release button. It is FAR
too sensitive that I could hardly 'half-press' like I used to on my
6900. As this button is situated within the on/off switch, may be
it is the cheap plastic design that affects its function. On
several attemps, I failed to half-press (for focusing) and end up
with unfocused images. The shutter release on 6900 feels solid and
have a clearer 'half-press' and 'full press' steps.

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I can't say I've had a problem with this at all.

Jake7 said:

Zoom button is badly designed and positioned. Ok, perhaps one can
get used to it after awhile. I still prefer the design of 6900. May
be I am used to it.

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Yes, I prefer the 4900z's zoom, but after three weeks I've got used
to the new one.

Jake7 said:

Super Macro is not really an improvement, I think it is just a
gimmick/marketing tactics.

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Hmmm ... don't know about this one ... haven't tried it yet.

Jake7 said:

The main good point about 602 is its extremely quiet zoom and
autofocus, unlike my aging 6900 which sounds like an old-fashion
robot! Read write is extremely fast. Video (VGA) is really really
good quality. Zoom can be pre-set before videoing and the
'half-press' could be used to autofocus just before recording the
video!

I think my only concern is the on/off switch and the highly
sensitive shutter release button. Other features of the camera are
ok and may be with pratice and use, I still could get used to it. I
have to think more carefully about upgrading since there is not
much of a clear difference in image quality between the 602 and
6900.

Click to expand...

Jake7 said:

The only points that are worth the 602 are:

AA batteries
Microdrive/SM
VGA Video/sound
very fast operation/quiet
may be a lower light capability than 6900

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Less noise in pics in low light situations ?

Jake7 said:

Are these points worth me forking out £550 or more for 602?

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Only you can decide. If it's not what you want -- don't buy it! Try
another make or model -- or wait another 18 months to see what else
comes along.

regards

Jake7 said:

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Teck
http://www.teck.teh.cwc.net/lifeextract/index.htm

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Seth B · Jul 4, 2002

Teckster -

Why would you upgrade? Frankly, unless you dislike your 6900, or you need to have the latest greatest, why should you? It's not as if you're going to get significantly different images, is it? And the AA battery thing is overrated since Fuji forgot to tell us when our batteries were dying, even though we get a lot more pictures per charge. Do you want to take movies? A little Canon ZR DV runs rings around the 602.

I would buy the new tennis racket, take a picture of it with my sterling 6900, and post it if I were you. Want a new Fuji? Wait for next year's 703! Just my 2 pence.
Seth
'Momma don't take my Kodachrome away'
http://www.pbase.com/seth/602_color

charles ellison · Jul 5, 2002

Following a week's shooting in Italy my view is that the shutter release is just right I was never caught out - it is much less sensitive than my previous Sony S75. On/off switch was no problem whatsoever.

Bill C said:
Teck
Someone else questioned the switch - the switch on my camera is
quite solid with very little wobble. Also, the shutter release
button is just fine. I suggest you try another one if you can.
Bill

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chas

TheTeh · Jul 5, 2002

Hi Seth,

thanks for your reply. I guess you are right that I woun't get better images with 602 compared to the 6900. I am now looking at Nikon 5700 and seems to be quite good but more expensive. One thing I dislike about 5700 is its rechargable lithium-ion, I still prefer AA (although it has an adapter for AA, it will increase the size of the camera). I will also miss the VGA unlimited video recording in 602.

6oh2 Seth said:
Teckster -

Why would you upgrade? Frankly, unless you dislike your 6900, or
you need to have the latest greatest, why should you? It's not as
if you're going to get significantly different images, is it? And
the AA battery thing is overrated since Fuji forgot to tell us when
our batteries were dying, even though we get a lot more pictures
per charge. Do you want to take movies? A little Canon ZR DV runs
rings around the 602.
I would buy the new tennis racket, take a picture of it with my
sterling 6900, and post it if I were you. Want a new Fuji? Wait
for next year's 703! Just my 2 pence.
Seth
'Momma don't take my Kodachrome away'
http://www.pbase.com/seth/602_color

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Regards,
Teck
http://www.teck.teh.cwc.net/lifeextract/index.htm

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