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why not download both as they have a demo of each. all reports say they are compatible on same system. I think you'll find the concensus pretty well split on these two excellent programs and many run both. you might want to decide for yourself as they each have their strengths & weakness'

Jim C.
Bob Jones said:
Any one any preferences between the two for converting RAW files ??

Which one is the best?
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Bob

http://www.bodafon.com
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Bob Jones said:
Any one any preferences between the two for converting RAW files ??

Which one is the best?
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Bob

http://www.bodafon.com
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Bob,

Certainly best advice to to try both and decide which one is best for you, or determine that both offer enough to buy both.

Just some quick differences:

YarcPlus:

--PictureByPictureConversion - allows each picture to be converted according to its own settings, so that all pictures are converted individually in one batch

--ARF - Artifact reduction Filter - Provides what many people think is best conversion quality.
--Assignment of ICC/ICM profiles
--100% view for display and WB pick Point

Breeze-
--Web Galery Generation
--Printing contact sheets and other printing featyres
--Renaming
--EXIF transfer functions
--More post processing functions

Just a quick list. There are many more features on both sides.

Check both web sites.

Try both. Happy to answer any YP questions that you may have during your evaulation. Best to post on the YarcPlus message board for fastest response.

Enjoy..

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com
 
MichaelT said:
Bob Jones said:
Any one any preferences between the two for converting RAW files ??

Which one is the best?
--
Bob

http://www.bodafon.com
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Bob,

Certainly best advice to to try both and decide which one is best
for you, or determine that both offer enough to buy both.

Just some quick differences:

YarcPlus:
--PictureByPictureConversion - allows each picture to be converted
according to its own settings, so that all pictures are converted
individually in one batch
--ARF - Artifact reduction Filter - Provides what many people think
is best conversion quality.
--Assignment of ICC/ICM profiles
--100% view for display and WB pick Point

Breeze-
--Web Galery Generation
--Printing contact sheets and other printing featyres
--Renaming
--EXIF transfer functions
--More post processing functions

Just a quick list. There are many more features on both sides.

Check both web sites.

Try both. Happy to answer any YP questions that you may have during
your evaulation. Best to post on the YarcPlus message board for
fastest response.

Enjoy..

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com
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Thanks Michael,

I have downloaded the three files and will install and try it out later this evening.

I have also registered on the site if I need any help I will post a message there..

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Bob

http://www.bodafon.com
 
Michael what a really good post. I know that Yarc is your software and you gave a really good response. I will be buying YarcPlus soon. But it is nice to know that you did not trash the other software. I have BB. I have been told that yours is better. But just commending you on your gracious attitude.

Tim
Bob Jones said:
MichaelT said:
Bob Jones said:
Any one any preferences between the two for converting RAW files ??

Which one is the best?
--
Bob

http://www.bodafon.com
Click to expand...
Bob,

Certainly best advice to to try both and decide which one is best
for you, or determine that both offer enough to buy both.

Just some quick differences:

YarcPlus:
--PictureByPictureConversion - allows each picture to be converted
according to its own settings, so that all pictures are converted
individually in one batch
--ARF - Artifact reduction Filter - Provides what many people think
is best conversion quality.
--Assignment of ICC/ICM profiles
--100% view for display and WB pick Point

Breeze-
--Web Galery Generation
--Printing contact sheets and other printing featyres
--Renaming
--EXIF transfer functions
--More post processing functions

Just a quick list. There are many more features on both sides.

Check both web sites.

Try both. Happy to answer any YP questions that you may have during
your evaulation. Best to post on the YarcPlus message board for
fastest response.

Enjoy..

--
Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com
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Thanks Michael,
I have downloaded the three files and will install and try it out
later this evening.
I have also registered on the site if I need any help I will post a
message there..

--
Bob

http://www.bodafon.com
Click to expand...
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Tim
 
Am a happy YarcPlus user. I also use B.B. for some other features. One thing that should be easy to implement in YP is the ability to view other file formats such as Jpeg. It makes it easier to organize my thinking if I can see all the thumbnails in a directory, and sometimes I need to.
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Walter K
 
Timothy Neal Babin said:
Michael what a really good post. I know that Yarc is your software
and you gave a really good response. I will be buying YarcPlus
soon. But it is nice to know that you did not trash the other
software. I have BB. I have been told that yours is better. But
just commending you on your gracious attitude.
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I second that. Very professional and also suggest that should I choose YP (I'm sure I will when I start shooting RAW vs JPEG), the customer service (should it be neede) will be excellent.

Keep up the good work Michael
 
Keith Steede said:
Timothy Neal Babin said:
Michael what a really good post. I know that Yarc is your software
and you gave a really good response. I will be buying YarcPlus
soon. But it is nice to know that you did not trash the other
software. I have BB. I have been told that yours is better. But
just commending you on your gracious attitude.
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I second that. Very professional and also suggest that should I
choose YP (I'm sure I will when I start shooting RAW vs JPEG), the
customer service (should it be neede) will be excellent.
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Michael has a good product, there's no doubt about that.....but don't count BreezeBrowser out.

It's ALSO an excellent program and Chris Breeze's customer service is 2nd to none. FREE updates on the program.
Do yourself a favor and get both.
Keith Steede said:
Keep up the good work Michael
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Thanks guys. The price on both is so reasonable that I'm sure I'll get both. thanks for the tips.

more to follow...
Ian S said:
Agree, on all counts. I use Yarc for the actual conversion, but
BB for preview, selection and batch renaming.

Cheers
Ian
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Do you preview while on the images are still on the card, or do you copy to your PC first?
Which one do you use for rotating?
Actuallly, if you don't mind sharing your work-flow, that would be great.

Keith
 
Keith Steede said:
more to follow...
Ian S said:
Agree, on all counts. I use Yarc for the actual conversion, but
BB for preview, selection and batch renaming.
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So do I.
Keith Steede said:
Do you preview while on the images are still on the card, or do you
copy to your PC first?
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Nope, I always transfer the files first.
Keith Steede said:
Which one do you use for rotating?
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Neither - I never rotate my original files, only the extracted (or copied to TIFF) working copies.
Keith Steede said:
Actuallly, if you don't mind sharing your work-flow, that would be
great.
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Here you go;

1) transfer files to PC - Breeze Downloader
2) Preview and delete the dross - Breezebrowser
3) Rename remaining files to a date-based filename format - Breezebrowser
4) Extract EXIF data for import to Access database - Breezebrowser
5a) If shot as JPEGS, copy as TIFFs - Irfanview
5b) If shot as RAW, convert to Linear 16bit TIFFS - YarcPlus with ARF On
6) Run Pekka Saarinen's action on the converted TIFFs
7) Any further manual editing, including rotation.

HTH
Chris
 
I've just started playing with raw files the past few weeks.

I like Breeze's capabilities, doing autolevels and such during the conversion....I personally think the levels are nicer than doing it in photoshop after the fact.

However, when I have to shoot higher ISO's....I've found that Yarc's ARF is a very valuable feature....it results in cleaner images imho. Plus I like the picture by picture conversion settings.

Both programs beat the hell out of canon's zoombrowser!

I think there's room for both of these programs in my software toolkit....I can't decide which one I want more....and their both reasonably enough priced that I can't see why not to have both.
Bob Jones said:
Any one any preferences between the two for converting RAW files ??

Which one is the best?
--
Bob

http://www.bodafon.com
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John
http://www.pbase.com/mankman
Canon EOS D30
24-85USM
70-200 f/4L
Kenko 2x Pro
 
Timothy Neal Babin said:
Michael what a really good post. I know that Yarc is your software
and you gave a really good response. I will be buying YarcPlus
soon. But it is nice to know that you did not trash the other
software. I have BB. I have been told that yours is better. But
just commending you on your gracious attitude.

Tim
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Me too I appreciate Michael's attitude.

Both programmes have their qualities so I'm contemplating to buy both as well.

Kind regards,
Frank Vandenberghe
 
Chris,

Before you apply Pekkas's action,
Which camera setting are you using for Raw?
Low-Low-Low or Low-Low-High?

I am using low-low-high(=High saturation) and the result from the Pekka's action was not satisfactory in my case.

Any comment on this?

Thanks!

Paul J.
Chris Maddock said:
Keith Steede said:
more to follow...
Ian S said:
Agree, on all counts. I use Yarc for the actual conversion, but
BB for preview, selection and batch renaming.
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So do I.
Chris Maddock said:
Do you preview while on the images are still on the card, or do you
copy to your PC first?
Click to expand...
Nope, I always transfer the files first.
Chris Maddock said:
Which one do you use for rotating?
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Neither - I never rotate my original files, only the extracted (or
copied to TIFF) working copies.
Chris Maddock said:
Actuallly, if you don't mind sharing your work-flow, that would be
great.
Click to expand...
Here you go;

1) transfer files to PC - Breeze Downloader
2) Preview and delete the dross - Breezebrowser
3) Rename remaining files to a date-based filename format -
Breezebrowser
4) Extract EXIF data for import to Access database - Breezebrowser
5a) If shot as JPEGS, copy as TIFFs - Irfanview
5b) If shot as RAW, convert to Linear 16bit TIFFS - YarcPlus with
ARF On
6) Run Pekka Saarinen's action on the converted TIFFs
7) Any further manual editing, including rotation.

HTH
Chris
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http://www.pbase.com/pjuhn D30 24-85, 50, 75-300
 
Paul Juhn said:
Chris,

Before you apply Pekkas's action,
Which camera setting are you using for Raw?
Low-Low-Low or Low-Low-High?
I am using low-low-high(=High saturation) and the result from the
Pekka's action was not satisfactory in my case.

Any comment on this?
Click to expand...
Low-low-low IIRC, I don't have the camera with me today to check, though. I'm cetainly happy with the results most of the time. If I get any that I'm not, then I will do a non-linear conversion to see if I can get a better result.

KRs
Chris
 
There was a comment above about someone not rotating in YarcPlus (or Breeze) and would only do that after conversion as a converted TIFF (or whatever).

Just so there is no confusion...in any proper Canon RAW program (such as YP or BB), when a RAW file is rotated, NOTHING is done to the image. All that is done is to set a flag, that says to programs..."Please rotate this file when you show it or convert it".

So this is fully non-destrucvie in that the image data is not even touched. Even the THM is not touched. So surely, I do not suggest that the poster is doing something wrong by rotating later, but I just do not want the impression left that there is ANY "harm" done to a RAW file (CRW of Canon TIF) when it is rotated in YP or BB.
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Regards,

Michael Tapes
http://www.YarcPlus.com
http://www.michaeltapes.com
 
Please let me know what is Pekka's Action.

Tim
Chris Maddock said:
Paul Juhn said:
Chris,

Before you apply Pekkas's action,
Which camera setting are you using for Raw?
Low-Low-Low or Low-Low-High?
I am using low-low-high(=High saturation) and the result from the
Pekka's action was not satisfactory in my case.

Any comment on this?
Click to expand...
Low-low-low IIRC, I don't have the camera with me today to check,
though. I'm cetainly happy with the results most of the time. If I
get any that I'm not, then I will do a non-linear conversion to see
if I can get a better result.

KRs
Chris
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Tim
 
MichaelT said:
There was a comment above about someone not rotating in YarcPlus
(or Breeze) and would only do that after conversion as a converted
TIFF (or whatever).

Just so there is no confusion...in any proper Canon RAW program
(such as YP or BB), when a RAW file is rotated, NOTHING is done to
the image. All that is done is to set a flag, that says to
programs..."Please rotate this file when you show it or convert it".

So this is fully non-destrucvie in that the image data is not even
touched. Even the THM is not touched. So surely, I do not suggest
that the poster is doing something wrong by rotating later, but I
just do not want the impression left that there is ANY "harm" done
to a RAW file (CRW of Canon TIF) when it is rotated in YP or BB.
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Thanks for this Michael, I just don't like doing anything at all to my original files, just save them and work on copies. This preference originated with JPEGs, before lossless rotation was commonplace, and it's just stuck in my mentality (for want of a better word!)

KRs
Chris
 
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