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In my opinion the G series has definitely ended with G6 model, given the fact that it was the best G model regarding image quality.
What do you think?
Bart
 
Kirwin said:
Panasonic G1 (4/3 micro)
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Even though I am not a fanboy of any brand (I have Panny, Sony, Fuji, Canon and Nikon) I am sick and tired of few individuals polluting every single new Fuji/Canon/whatever thread with DSC-G1 troll posts.

As much as G1 is cute I am sorry but at this moment it is not attractive to me mainly thanks to current "lens selection". Some other micro 4/3 implementation might be IF lens selection gets better. But not DSC-G1.
 
I don't think that looks comfortable to hold, don't the designers have normal sized hands?. All the posts i've read about it and not one has said it only fits 10 years and under. :)
 
bartas said:
In my opinion the G series has definitely ended with G6 model, given
the fact that it was the best G model regarding image quality.
What do you think?
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I had a G6, it was very nice, but it to smeared detail in landscapes just like the latest cameras. It was noisy at ISO 200.

Take a G10 image and downsize to 7MP and it will blow away the G6 image quality IMO.

The G6 had an awesome grip though. It was a kung fu grip. Felt like it was molded for my hand. I will miss that.

Other things people miss: The fold out screen. Well I am not a fan of side fold outs they throw off my framing for some reason, and the tiny low res screen on the G6 was terrible in any light at all.

I don't think we should weep to many tears until we actually did a 7MP comparison to new and old and I think the G10 would win handily. Build quality has improved, exp compensation and ISO as controls now, and 28mm wide end as well.

I would love to see a comparison if someone ends up with both.
 
It's not because it has less mega pixels, Don't know what, something from the G6 that make them look very nice, that newer G7/G9/G10 just can't deliver.
 
bartas said:
In my opinion the G series has definitely ended with G6 model, given
the fact that it was the best G model regarding image quality.
What do you think?
Bart
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Don't know that the G6 sensor was all that good, it smeared details right along with the best of them. The S80 sensor was much better than the G6 sensor IMHO. But the reincarnated G line is certainly a different animal than their G1-6 predecessors, you're right about that. The G7/9 was a different type of camera, and this new G10 is the definitive upgrade path from the S80 (if you can consider 15MP an "upgrade", albeit a bit larger than the old Sx0 series was.

It's pretty clear that there will not be any f/2.0 lenses released by Canon again that do not attach to an EF system. That's the way it's going to be. If anything, Canon is dumbing the compact line down, not taking any chances the way Panasonic is.
 
Peter G said:
bartas said:
In my opinion the G series has definitely ended with G6 model, given
the fact that it was the best G model regarding image quality.
What do you think?
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I had a G6, it was very nice, but it to smeared detail in landscapes
just like the latest cameras. It was noisy at ISO 200.

Take a G10 image and downsize to 7MP and it will blow away the G6
image quality IMO.

The G6 had an awesome grip though. It was a kung fu grip. Felt like
it was molded for my hand. I will miss that.

Other things people miss: The fold out screen. Well I am not a fan of
side fold outs they throw off my framing for some reason, and the
tiny low res screen on the G6 was terrible in any light at all.

I don't think we should weep to many tears until we actually did a
7MP comparison to new and old and I think the G10 would win handily.
Build quality has improved, exp compensation and ISO as controls now,
and 28mm wide end as well.

I would love to see a comparison if someone ends up with both.
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I was doing just that yesterday, downsize the official G10 samples to various sizes down to 2208x1656. What I found is, the images look most pleasing @ around 5MP or a bit higher, compared to old powershots with 5MP to 7MP, the G10 downsized images look very sharp (no need for any USM), but I suspect that the "lighting appearance" or dynamic range of 5 to7MP cameras is better. I tried hard to find any details that were lost as a result of downsizing from 14.7 to 5MP, I couldn't see any (at 14.7 the images are full of mush). Hyper-MP on a tiny sensor is just unnecessary in most cases, the best compromise with current technology could be something like 8MP.
 
For the past few years I have been hoping to upgrade my G6, but Canon have yet to offer anything to make it worth switching.

I use the G6 as a casual walkabout camera for when I don't feel like lugging the SLR gear around. I would like to get a more pocketable and responsive version and had great hopes for the G10, however it preliminarily looks like I will just have to wait until we see the G11. Will hold off until I start seeing more in-depth reviews.

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I respectfully disagree and think you're looking back to good old times that never were. Any newer G or even the higher end SD's will beat the G6 in image quality, detail, and especially noise. I just finished a series of shots with the G6, G7, SD700IS, and an SD950IS. I was genuinely surprised that the G6 noise was so horrible at ISO400. It was beaten badly by the G7 and 950. Additionally the detail in the G7 and 950 was better. Not by much but still better. Another surprise was the lens of the G6. Although faster, the falloff of edge and corner sharpness was worse than the G7 and 950. Here's a quick side by side picture of the G6 vs 950 at ISA400, .jpg straight from camera. This was typical of all the pictures I took. Lest you say that the 950 has more internal NR, that may be true but it still contains more detail.

 
Randy Nelson said:
I was genuinely surprised that the G6 noise was so horrible at
ISO400. It was beaten badly by the G7 and 950. Additionally the
detail in the G7 and 950 was better. Not by much but still better.
Another surprise was the lens of the G6. Although faster, the falloff
of edge and corner sharpness was worse than the G7 and 950. Here's a
quick side by side picture of the G6 vs 950 at ISA400, .jpg straight
from camera.
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You do realize that ISO "400" on G6 is actually ISO 640?

Also, using JPG straight from camera shows flaws/progress of processing engine. If you would go for RAW and process them both with modern software you would be surprised how good G6 turns out.
 
Yes sir. And if that extra 1/2 stop sensitivity in the G6 adds that much noise I'm not interested. Likewise for dealing with RAW. Nothing against others using it to get optimum results but I don't have the time or updated toolset.
 
Funny thing is that the G6 was ridiculed when it first came out -- especially by those who had the previous versions. I had the G3 (still have it) and remember making a conscious decision not to "upgrade". The G6 had far too many pixels on that small sensor, was plasticy, etc., etc.

Of course, when a friend wanted an advanced digicam, I still recommended the G6 to him. He loves his G6.

Some think the G10 is the last to be named PowerShot G.

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Gordon
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I have vague memories of saying it didn't seem wise to cram 4MP into the same size sensor that previously had 3mp.

:-)

Of course that sensor was nearly the same size as the one today with over 14MP.

The proof is in the pudding. People shouldn't make assumptions.
 
mbv said:
(G2 had/has) the best IQ of the GX.
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In all sincerity, do you truly believe that the G2 had the best IQ? That is, suppose you had an assignment (self imposed or otherwise) to use a G series and produce the best 8x10 print that you could. You can choose any G series camera. Would you really use the G2? Suppose the print was to be 16x20?

I have a G3 but I know that I'd choose to use my G9 and use it in raw mode. The G10 is not really available for a few more weeks. Perhaps after seeing the G10 tests I'd select the G10 but I don't know that at this point.

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Gordon
http://hornerbuck.com
http://lightdescription.blogspot.com
 
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