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Amstelveen, The Netherlands, 17 September 2008: Canon today supercharges its PowerShot digital compact camera range with two powerful new models: the 10 Megapixel PowerShot SX1 IS and PowerShot SX10 IS, which jointly replace the PowerShot S5 IS.

The SX1 and SX10 models don't even have Aperture or Shutter priorty. A ridiculous claim that they can replace the S5IS. Give me a break.

Glenn
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I make the following correction. The website of DPReview summary for these two new Canon models leaves into question Aperture and Shutter priority as features. However, the following website verifies that the two cameras do have full manual control and Aperture and Shutter priority.

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Canon-PowerShot-SX1-and-SX10-IS

Sorry for the confusion. Still, I agree with Lee Jay in his other post on this subject, that the lense for the 20x zoom for these two new cameras is a step backwards with a specification of 20x zoom, and f2.8-f5.7. Definitely not in the direction of improving low-light performance.

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glenncombs said:
Still, I agree with Lee Jay in his other
post on this subject, that the lense for the 20x zoom for these two
new cameras is a step backwards with a specification of 20x zoom, and
f2.8-f5.7. Definitely not in the direction of improving low-light
performance.

Glenn
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Canon S2, A610
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I hope some review can explain what maximum aperture this new model reaches in the same maximum focal distance as the previous model (S5is) this was about 400mm i think, to see if this change is really a step backwards or only a necesary compromise to increase zoom range but still keep the size of the camera the same.
 
flash1102 said:
I hope some review can explain what maximum aperture this new model
reaches in the same maximum focal distance as the previous model (S5is)
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That was my first thought too - but since the S5 only drops to f/3.5 at maximum zoom it's pretty unlikely that the new cameras are going to match that. If you assume a linear relationship between the aperture and zoom range it's going to work out somewhere in the vicinity of f/5.

Don't forget that this is an extreme zoom range AND a decent wide angle at the short end. Between size, cost, sharpness, vignetting, CA, and aperture something has got to give. Would you rather it be sharpness?
 
Personally, I'm excited about getting this as our all-around camera. The wide end is great, and in our case that's more important, but we also want the reach for the occasional long shot.

I'll wait and see what the IQ is, of course. The proof's in the pudding.
 
glenncombs said:
I make the following correction. The website of DPReview summary for
these two new Canon models leaves into question Aperture and Shutter
priority as features. However, the following website verifies that
the two cameras do have full manual control and Aperture and Shutter
priority.

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Canon-PowerShot-SX1-and-SX10-IS
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For example, in the current DPR news article, they list the SX1 and SX10 as having Motion JPEG video, while the Canon website says they use Quicktime H.264

(MPEG-4). How long before they correct this? It doesn't inspire confidence in their information.

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Sean Nelson said:
flash1102 said:
I hope some review can explain what maximum aperture this new model
reaches in the same maximum focal distance as the previous model (S5is)
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If you assume a linear relationship between the
Sean Nelson said:
aperture and zoom range it's going to work out somewhere in the
vicinity of f/5.
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If this is true then I´m really disappointed about the upgrade, I´d really prefer to buy a S5is with less zoom but wider apperture and less money than the replacement
 
Canon S3 has not a linear maximum aperture increase. It's f/2.7 just at 36 mm and from 48 mm to 432 mm is f/3.5. Between 37 mm and 47 mm the maximum aperture is f/3.2. All focal lengths are in equivalent.

I would agree that f/5.7 at 560 mm it's not a good think. But you have to make some compromises in order to have the price and size down. If the crowd wants 20x written on a lens then you should reduce the aperture.
72 mm @ f/3.5 is 20.57 mm
100 mm @ f/5.7 is 17.54 mm
Now if ISO400 will be like ISO200 of S5 then the difference will not be so huge.
For low light get a dSLR with very fast lens and forget ultrazooms.
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feraldruid said:
Personally, I'm excited about getting this as our all-around camera.
The wide end is great, and in our case that's more important, but we
also want the reach for the occasional long shot.

I'll wait and see what the IQ is, of course. The proof's in the
pudding.
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Finally!! Its really getting to be enough with all negative comments about the new canon line up, nice to see someone who's excited about one!

I dont think canon can come out with unbelievable changes every year on all the models. And some of the new cameras look pretty good.
 
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