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Thom,

sure the choice of color space can be seen in print. Choosing a too narrow color space in the first place means you lose color nuances that you'll never be able to regain. Phil's review of the D1x (the first digital Nikon with the choice of sRGB OR Adobe RGB) clearly shows examples of this:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond1x/page17.asp Scroll down to "Colorspace (Custom setting 32)" and have a look at the example images.

Back when Adobe launched PS 5.0, the first PS version that had a manageable color management functionality, they made the mistake to let sRGB be the default working color space. Though you could set a larger colorspace as default yourself, many photografers and graphic artist didn't and lots of images aere ruined. After version 5.02 Adobe rectified this, and the world has been more colorful ever since...

Toralf
Thom Hogan said:
David SL said:
Thom Hogan said:
Thom Hogan said:
The D100 has 3 selectable color spaces, the S2 does not(1).
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True, but again, exactly what is the applicability? Since you can
convert color spaces on the computer later, what exactly are you
gaining?
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Actually, though you can convert color spaces after the shot is
taken you can't resample the original scenes color space in other
words if you shoot in sRGB a scene where AdobeRGB values dominate,
you will be capturing the scene incompletely compared to if you
shot in AdobeRGB in the first place. The missing values can't be
recovered and in converting on the PC can't be regenerated (all it
has is the sRGB data to map to AdobeRGB which should be easy given
that sRGB is a subset of AdobeRGB) but that sRGB can't contain the
unshot components of color in the scene that existed in the
AdobeRGB space.
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True. I wasn't fully thinking in my response there. Though...has
anyone actually SEEN differences in images resampled to another
color space? I spent many years at places that converted RGB data
with one color space to CYMK with another. At BACKPACKER, I don't
remember that causing any visible differences (though lousy print
runs sometimes did...).
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**** Lau said:
It is funny that you seem to forget the S2 use Nikon Lens and other
Nikon accessories. And the stupid S2 you talk about is build on a
Nikon body...
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Absolutely true. That's why I'm getting a Nikon. :)

Why pay $400 more when you can get the real thing? Yes, you can get a 12MP image that is interpolated, but have you seen the photos? There is no point in getting the camera for this feature. It does have firewire, but do you need it? What about the battery situation? What about only 6 ISO settings and the D100's 12 settings? The Flash sync is actually slower than a D100. ISO is 100 but a D100 can beat it at ISO 200. Does the Fuji S2 take Lithium batteries, or are you stuck with AA batteries? NiMH are worthless in a tough shoot that is demanding, especially in cold weather. Is the S2 compatible with 10-pin Nikon shutter release cables? And what about low-light sensitivity?

Exposure compensation on the D100 is: + -5 EV in 0.3 or 0.5 EV steps

Fuji S2 Exposure compensation is: -3 EV to +3 EV in 0.5 EV steps.

The D100 has a wider dynamic range.

All of these questions and answers made me choose a D100.

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**** Lau said:
Jimmy,
Which Fuji you talk to? US or Canada or else where?
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i talked to the engineering dept at fuji new york. me and the engineer talked for about 45 minutes. super nice guy. he also told me that you can tether the s2 to a laptop with firewire and not even instal a memory card in the camera. he also stated that there was only one raw capture and that is at the highest setting. he really was pushing the ibm microdrive . he said with it you can fire the camera every three seconds or so forever. we talked also about the flash voltiage. hes said about 20 volts or less was safe. i measured my normans and they produce about 6 volts so im okay in the studio. my metz 60 s are also going to be okay i believe according to the metz manager in nj.
**** Lau of Calgary said:
thanks
****
jimmy wooten said:
**** Lau said:
I was told by Fuji Canada. S2 shoot in sRGB for jpeg.

Dear ****,

Thank you for visiting our web site.

The Fujifilm S2Pro uses the sRGB colour space. This setting is not
switchable on the camera, however you may adjust the colour, tone, and
sharpness to achieve the desired output. In addition, the S2Pro
allows you
to save RAW image files to the computer before it is processed by the
camera, avoiding the sRGB conversion within the camera. Using the
optional
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i talked with the fuji NY croud today and he said that the optional
raw software is now going to be included for FREE in the box .
jimmy
**** Lau of Calgary said:
Hyper Shooting Software, you can adjust the colour space of this
RAW image
file as well as additional colour adjustments.

If you have any further questions please do not hesitate in
contacting us
at this e-mail address or by phone at 1-800-461-7380 Option #3 (M-F
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Visit http://www.fujifilm.ca

****
Thom Hogan said:
David SL said:
The D100 has 12 selectable ISO levels the S2 does not(only 6).
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True. But what's the applicability? Do we really need 1/3 stop ISO
settings, or is that just fodder for marketing brochures? To put it
in perspective: in over a year of shooting with the D1x, I've used
a total of 3 ISO values (100, 400, and 500, if you have to ask).
The only time I used others was for testing in an article for the
D1 Report.
**** Lau of Calgary said:
The D100 has 3 selectable color spaces, the S2 does not(1).
Click to expand...
True, but again, exactly what is the applicability? Since you can
convert color spaces on the computer later, what exactly are you
gaining? However, to Nikon's credit, their color spaces on the D1h
and D1x seem to be relatively accurate, and Fuji doesn't seem to
claim a color space for the S2 Pro (at least I've yet to find one
in the manual that was posted).
**** Lau of Calgary said:
The D100 has a custom tone curve import option, S2 does not.
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Is anyone using this? I asked once before and was met with a loud
silence from D1 users.
**** Lau of Calgary said:
The D100 has + -5 adjustments in EV in auto mode, S2 does not(+ -3).
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Again, seems like a marketing number to me. Just exactly when is it
that I want to set an exposure 5 stops different than the meter?
**** Lau of Calgary said:
The D100 has AE and WB bracketing, S2 does not(as far as I know).
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Good point (at least on the WB bracketing; the S2 has AE bracketing).
**** Lau of Calgary said:
The D100 has near 3fps shooting speed the S2 is specified to have
only 2fps.
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Also a good point (for some shooters), though you also need to
point out buffer sizes (this was an issue with the Canon 1D versus
the Nikon D1h: Canon claims a much faster frame rate, but the size
of its buffer means that the entire burst lasts two seconds. In
some sports, that's okay, in others, it's not and the Nikon D1h is
a better choice as it takes about 8 seconds to fill its buffer).

I hope my points aren't taken as defensive, here. I keep hearing
about differences in product specifications, but no clear reasoning
why those differences might be useful. There's a big difference
between wanting one camera over the other versus needing one camera
over the other.

--
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author, Nikon Field Guide
author, Nikon Flash Guide
author, Complete Guide to the Nikon D1, D1h, & D1x
http://www.bythom.com
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Thing is Jason I have Nikon and Fuji cameras, so I look in on both forums, and like many I am following all discussions about the new cameras. What amuses me and tempts me to post an occasional comment is the passion with which some Nikonites revile other products, especially Fuji. It's as if someone's pedigree ***** had been covered by the neighbours pooch. What is this, techno class hatred or what? All I am looking for is rational comparisons to help me decide which, if either, of these cameras might get me to free the moths in my wallet. You raise some objective points which I think are well covered by Thom Hogan in another post, eg." when did you last need to set an exposure five stops different than the meter reading". There's more, if you are interested I'm sure you will look. As for the "my gang vs your gang" tosh that creeps in from time to time, it is at best comical and at worst tedious. All of the new cameras are the dog's b-------, it only comes down to which little differences in the features suit your own photography needs best.
Jason Busch said:
Anthony said:
Now as for me, I like to lurk in other forums, pop up now and then,
but then scurry back to the Fuji SLR forum where there's a lot
nicer contributors who actually help each other.
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You're probably right. But then I see so many S2 posts here, I have
to wonder why.

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Philip K said:
"When is an innovation not an innovation?

When it is a solution in search of a problem!"

I read this quote in a photography magazine about twenty years ago
when they were writing about the latest geewiz innovation. It is
still true today.
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Even problem solving can be innovative ... otherwise only
profiteering becomes the only innovation motor .. but I guess
thats the times and anybody accepts it.
Philip K said:
I think Thom is trying to say don't get lost in the details as much
of the details is marketing hype.
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yep this is why I decided on my camera before all the hair splitting
about the reviews :))
Philip K said:
Compared to twenty years ago, I love the cameras we have today and
the use of digital photography BUT

Are we really getting better pictures?
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For me its not the quality as such ... speed of the process, quantity
of pics to chooese from ... better backup than 250 undeveloped films
on a trip through South America.. quicker feedback on producy shots
etc etc.
Philip K said:
Bottom line -

The Nikon D100, Fuji S2, Canon D30 are basicly equals. Buy want you
want and don't worry about the details!
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Well ... the marketing guys want to make us worry about it .. it's
up to us to let them succeed or not ...
I could not more agree ... get out of the detail ... look at the
bigger picture and only then you will get a vision ...

gmd
 
Jason,

Usually I dont add to these threads as they tend to rufle feathers more than add value but you may want to do a search on a reply Thom Hogan made a few days ago regarding the diffeences between the s2 and D100 in terms of + - Ev and additional 1/3 stops of ISO settings. If these are truly that important to a person then is a very valid reason to buy one or the other. yet as thom said in his reply I can't imagine the need to go + or - 5 EV's, or the need for 1/3 stop values for ISO settings. I'd think the differences in things such as batteries, image quality and ease of getting that quality. fps IF higher ate is needed, portrait grip IF needed,buffer capacity, etc etc might be more valid reasoons. ive seen many people compare spec sheets when buying an item but fail until too late to realize a 4 port toaster oven hard wired into the dash of the car mihgt not have been the best idea.. not trying to be utterly facetious but I think Thom's reply was wel written and very intuitive. Both cameras will offer features which perhaps in practical use won't be used much. As fara s me, I'm planning on shooting with both before making a decision at all :)
Jason Busch said:
**** Lau said:
It is funny that you seem to forget the S2 use Nikon Lens and other
Nikon accessories. And the stupid S2 you talk about is build on a
Nikon body...
Click to expand...
Absolutely true. That's why I'm getting a Nikon. :)

Why pay $400 more when you can get the real thing? Yes, you can get
a 12MP image that is interpolated, but have you seen the photos?
There is no point in getting the camera for this feature. It does
have firewire, but do you need it? What about the battery
situation? What about only 6 ISO settings and the D100's 12
settings? The Flash sync is actually slower than a D100. ISO is 100
but a D100 can beat it at ISO 200. Does the Fuji S2 take Lithium
batteries, or are you stuck with AA batteries? NiMH are worthless
in a tough shoot that is demanding, especially in cold weather. Is
the S2 compatible with 10-pin Nikon shutter release cables? And
what about low-light sensitivity?

Exposure compensation on the D100 is: + -5 EV in 0.3 or 0.5 EV steps

Fuji S2 Exposure compensation is: -3 EV to +3 EV in 0.5 EV steps.

The D100 has a wider dynamic range.

All of these questions and answers made me choose a D100.

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Jimmy,

If a S2 (w/o memory card) connected to a computer via 1394. It is just like what happen to a Nikon DSLR with Nikon Capture. O well, maybe not for D100, after all, D100 don't have a firewire and with USB will be super slow. I saw a demo with D1X and G4 Powerbook. After the picture is taken, the G4 need around 5sec to display the whole picture. O well, it is still a bit better than film process.

Did you guys talk abt the raw format work? I mean how a 6MP file turn into a 12.4MB 12MP file?
thanks

****
jimmy wooten said:
**** Lau said:
Jimmy,
Which Fuji you talk to? US or Canada or else where?
Click to expand...
i talked to the engineering dept at fuji new york. me and the
engineer talked for about 45 minutes. super nice guy. he also told
me that you can tether the s2 to a laptop with firewire and not
even instal a memory card in the camera. he also stated that there
was only one raw capture and that is at the highest setting. he
really was pushing the ibm microdrive . he said with it you can
fire the camera every three seconds or so forever. we talked also
about the flash voltiage. hes said about 20 volts or less was
safe. i measured my normans and they produce about 6 volts so im
okay in the studio. my metz 60 s are also going to be okay i
believe according to the metz manager in nj.
jimmy w said:
thanks
****
jimmy wooten said:
**** Lau said:
I was told by Fuji Canada. S2 shoot in sRGB for jpeg.

Dear ****,

Thank you for visiting our web site.

The Fujifilm S2Pro uses the sRGB colour space. This setting is not
switchable on the camera, however you may adjust the colour, tone, and
sharpness to achieve the desired output. In addition, the S2Pro
allows you
to save RAW image files to the computer before it is processed by the
camera, avoiding the sRGB conversion within the camera. Using the
optional
Click to expand...
i talked with the fuji NY croud today and he said that the optional
raw software is now going to be included for FREE in the box .
jimmy
jimmy w said:
Hyper Shooting Software, you can adjust the colour space of this
RAW image
file as well as additional colour adjustments.

If you have any further questions please do not hesitate in
contacting us
at this e-mail address or by phone at 1-800-461-7380 Option #3 (M-F
8:30am
  • 4:30pm EST) for Digital Camera Technical Support.
Yours truly,

Digital Camera Technical Support
Fuji Photo Film Canada Inc.

Visit http://www.fujifilm.ca

****
Thom Hogan said:
David SL said:
The D100 has 12 selectable ISO levels the S2 does not(only 6).
Click to expand...
True. But what's the applicability? Do we really need 1/3 stop ISO
settings, or is that just fodder for marketing brochures? To put it
in perspective: in over a year of shooting with the D1x, I've used
a total of 3 ISO values (100, 400, and 500, if you have to ask).
The only time I used others was for testing in an article for the
D1 Report.
jimmy w said:
The D100 has 3 selectable color spaces, the S2 does not(1).
Click to expand...
True, but again, exactly what is the applicability? Since you can
convert color spaces on the computer later, what exactly are you
gaining? However, to Nikon's credit, their color spaces on the D1h
and D1x seem to be relatively accurate, and Fuji doesn't seem to
claim a color space for the S2 Pro (at least I've yet to find one
in the manual that was posted).
jimmy w said:
The D100 has a custom tone curve import option, S2 does not.
Click to expand...
Is anyone using this? I asked once before and was met with a loud
silence from D1 users.
jimmy w said:
The D100 has + -5 adjustments in EV in auto mode, S2 does not(+ -3).
Click to expand...
Again, seems like a marketing number to me. Just exactly when is it
that I want to set an exposure 5 stops different than the meter?
jimmy w said:
The D100 has AE and WB bracketing, S2 does not(as far as I know).
Click to expand...
Good point (at least on the WB bracketing; the S2 has AE bracketing).
jimmy w said:
The D100 has near 3fps shooting speed the S2 is specified to have
only 2fps.
Click to expand...
Also a good point (for some shooters), though you also need to
point out buffer sizes (this was an issue with the Canon 1D versus
the Nikon D1h: Canon claims a much faster frame rate, but the size
of its buffer means that the entire burst lasts two seconds. In
some sports, that's okay, in others, it's not and the Nikon D1h is
a better choice as it takes about 8 seconds to fill its buffer).

I hope my points aren't taken as defensive, here. I keep hearing
about differences in product specifications, but no clear reasoning
why those differences might be useful. There's a big difference
between wanting one camera over the other versus needing one camera
over the other.

--
Thom Hogan
author, Nikon Field Guide
author, Nikon Flash Guide
author, Complete Guide to the Nikon D1, D1h, & D1x
http://www.bythom.com
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Jason,

If you want to get a D100, more power to you. It is just a matter of preference. I am not saying D100 is better than S2, or the other way around. If you think the features you need the most is from D100, then go for it. No one force you to get a S2. in fact, no body care.

Since my Canon AE1p, ages ago, I used Nikon all my life. I am happy with my F4E and F5. So I guess I am not a Nikon hater. But it is just happen that the S2 fit my needs. That is it

Take care

****
Jason Busch said:
**** Lau said:
It is funny that you seem to forget the S2 use Nikon Lens and other
Nikon accessories. And the stupid S2 you talk about is build on a
Nikon body...
Click to expand...
Absolutely true. That's why I'm getting a Nikon. :)

Why pay $400 more when you can get the real thing? Yes, you can get
a 12MP image that is interpolated, but have you seen the photos?
There is no point in getting the camera for this feature. It does
have firewire, but do you need it? What about the battery
situation? What about only 6 ISO settings and the D100's 12
settings? The Flash sync is actually slower than a D100. ISO is 100
but a D100 can beat it at ISO 200. Does the Fuji S2 take Lithium
batteries, or are you stuck with AA batteries? NiMH are worthless
in a tough shoot that is demanding, especially in cold weather. Is
the S2 compatible with 10-pin Nikon shutter release cables? And
what about low-light sensitivity?

Exposure compensation on the D100 is: + -5 EV in 0.3 or 0.5 EV steps

Fuji S2 Exposure compensation is: -3 EV to +3 EV in 0.5 EV steps.

The D100 has a wider dynamic range.

All of these questions and answers made me choose a D100.

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**** Lau said:
Jimmy,
If a S2 (w/o memory card) connected to a computer via 1394. It is
just like what happen to a Nikon DSLR with Nikon Capture. O well,
maybe not for D100, after all, D100 don't have a firewire and with
USB will be super slow. I saw a demo with D1X and G4 Powerbook.
After the picture is taken, the G4 need around 5sec to display the
whole picture. O well, it is still a bit better than film process.
Did you guys talk abt the raw format work? I mean how a 6MP file
turn into a 12.4MB 12MP file?
thanks

****
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we did not talk to much about the 12.4, just its best to shoot in this format according to him. he did say they should be released to the bigger dealers this month. jimmy
**** Lau of Calgary said:
jimmy wooten said:
**** Lau said:
Jimmy,
Which Fuji you talk to? US or Canada or else where?
Click to expand...
i talked to the engineering dept at fuji new york. me and the
engineer talked for about 45 minutes. super nice guy. he also told
me that you can tether the s2 to a laptop with firewire and not
even instal a memory card in the camera. he also stated that there
was only one raw capture and that is at the highest setting. he
really was pushing the ibm microdrive . he said with it you can
fire the camera every three seconds or so forever. we talked also
about the flash voltiage. hes said about 20 volts or less was
safe. i measured my normans and they produce about 6 volts so im
okay in the studio. my metz 60 s are also going to be okay i
believe according to the metz manager in nj.
**** Lau of Calgary said:
thanks
****
jimmy wooten said:
**** Lau said:
I was told by Fuji Canada. S2 shoot in sRGB for jpeg.

Dear ****,

Thank you for visiting our web site.

The Fujifilm S2Pro uses the sRGB colour space. This setting is not
switchable on the camera, however you may adjust the colour, tone, and
sharpness to achieve the desired output. In addition, the S2Pro
allows you
to save RAW image files to the computer before it is processed by the
camera, avoiding the sRGB conversion within the camera. Using the
optional
Click to expand...
i talked with the fuji NY croud today and he said that the optional
raw software is now going to be included for FREE in the box .
jimmy
**** Lau of Calgary said:
Hyper Shooting Software, you can adjust the colour space of this
RAW image
file as well as additional colour adjustments.

If you have any further questions please do not hesitate in
contacting us
at this e-mail address or by phone at 1-800-461-7380 Option #3 (M-F
8:30am
  • 4:30pm EST) for Digital Camera Technical Support.
Yours truly,

Digital Camera Technical Support
Fuji Photo Film Canada Inc.

Visit http://www.fujifilm.ca

****
Thom Hogan said:
David SL said:
The D100 has 12 selectable ISO levels the S2 does not(only 6).
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john orchard said:
it only comes down to which little differences in the features suit your own photography needs best.
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I agree with that.

And yes, even I have received the wrath from other Nikonians. 3 months ago, I did a comparison on the D100 vs. the D100, and stated that from the specs, the D100 was going to be as good as, or better in image quality. Well, I got a lot of heat from that statement. Not anymore. :)

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Tommaso said:
I'm very confused: I heard a lot about both s2 and d100.
What to choose ??
thanks a lot !
Tommaso
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Hi Thommaso and members of the forum,

I still wonder, is there after all, a substantial difference in pic. quality between Fuji's S2 6mp super ccd, Nikon's D100 6mp ccd, and Canon's D60 6mp cmos?
As most of you have probably seen Yamada Kumio's comparison samples,
look for example at the street clock, as extracted from his samples.
Though I know the S2 and the D100 are still pre productions,
from his comparisons, the S2 has a clear better quality.

I guess that in full production D100, S2 and D60, such differences would
be smaller.

http://www.pbase.com/image/2757126/original

Shlomo.
 
Yes I think I read that Jason. People seem to get inordinately protective about their equipment, as if their own value as people is at stake. Hang a Leica from each ear and you are no better or worse than before, just sillier.
Jason Busch said:
john orchard said:
it only comes down to which little differences in the features suit your own photography needs best.
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I agree with that.

And yes, even I have received the wrath from other Nikonians. 3
months ago, I did a comparison on the D100 vs. the D100, and stated
that from the specs, the D100 was going to be as good as, or better
in image quality. Well, I got a lot of heat from that statement.
Not anymore. :)

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Jason Busch said:
Anthony said:
Now as for me, I like to lurk in other forums, pop up now and then,
but then scurry back to the Fuji SLR forum where there's a lot
nicer contributors who actually help each other.
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You're probably right. But then I see so many S2 posts here, I have
to wonder why.
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first of all if you read the heading in this thread, it says " d100 or s2",

that tells me that someone would like to hear from nikon and fuji users to help them make up their mind as to which one to plank their money on. i am grateful for the nikon and fuji posters in this forum/thread. i was ready to get the d100 but with one of the posts, i found out the d100 will only do about three shots then its wait in raw, with the fuji its 7. the reason i got rid of my e10 was that 4 was its limit. i could only shoot weddings with 2 people in the processional i guess, but i would be turning down a lot of weddings (in raw i mean) . so for me, at the moment, it s a s2 just because of the buffer not counting all the other plus es, one being flash compatiblity with my metz 60 s, and flash syn speed in conjunction with the asa.

anyway, lets all just learn from one another instead of questioning one another in a courtroom atmosphere. jimmy
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I'm not sure if this is proper netiquette or not, but I would like to ask one more clarifying question.

Will my Sunpak 555 "potato masher" flash work in TTL mode with the Fuji S2 Pro, and not with the D100?

I really prefer the D100, but this D-TTL stuff that Nikon adopted to sell more expensive flash units is stressing me out a bit.

Thanks!
  • Dave
Thom Hogan said:
Thom Hogan said:
This is a little misleading. The Nikon D100 supports 5 segment
D-TTL (TTL for digital SLR), whereas the Fuji S2 only supports
regular 35mm type of TTL.
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Well, you need to read the specs a little more closely (or my
book). The film bodies all have five-sensor TTL. Note also that
Nikon didn't make any changes to the TTL sensors in the D1, meaning
that they see outside the frame area! Too soon to tell if the D100
has this same problem.
Thom Hogan said:
Since the S2 is not a regular 35mm camera, the TTL flash technology
is not as advanced as the D-TTL the D100 offers with a Nikon DX
dedicated flash.
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Actually, you have it backwards. D-TTL REMOVES one critical flash
function: the ability to monitor the flash DURING exposure. Other
than that, they are the same.
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Dave Dugal said:
Will my Sunpak 555 "potato masher" flash work in TTL mode with the
Fuji S2 Pro, and not with the D100?
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Yes.

If your Sunpak 555 works in TTL mode with the N80 it will work with the S2.

Currently, the only flash models to work in TTL with the D100 are the Nikon SB28DX, SB50DX, and SB80DX. Thus the Sunpak will not work with the D100 in TTL
 
Can I use my SB26 flashlight with the Nikon D100?

Yang
Thom Hogan said:
Anthony Medici said:
Does this mean you can start talking about what you know about the
S2 or is this still "publicly available information"?
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At present, I'm restricting myself to information that is
publically available. For what it's worth, I usually do that
regardless of whether I've signed an NDA with someone. We already
have plenty of folk willing to speculate and cause confusion.

--
Thom Hogan
author, Nikon Field Guide
author, Nikon Flash Guide
author, Complete Guide to the Nikon D1, D1h, & D1x
http://www.bythom.com
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jimmy wooten said:
i talked to the engineering dept at fuji new york. me and the
engineer talked for about 45 minutes. super nice guy. he also told
me that you can tether the s2 to a laptop with firewire and not
even instal a memory card in the camera.
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I guess the laptop needs to run some kind of software then, right? Otherwise it'd be possible (and pretty cool as an emergency solution) to attach it to an external FireWire hard drive or my iPod. Just me seeing things too easy I guess.

cheers,
Bernd
 
Bernd,

You have to use the FUJI Hyper-utility software to do the job, an optional software.

You can use the kaptop to shot, but there will be an extra wire running around.... Maybe what we really need is a BlueTooth.
****
Bernd K. said:
jimmy wooten said:
i talked to the engineering dept at fuji new york. me and the
engineer talked for about 45 minutes. super nice guy. he also told
me that you can tether the s2 to a laptop with firewire and not
even instal a memory card in the camera.
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I guess the laptop needs to run some kind of software then, right?
Otherwise it'd be possible (and pretty cool as an emergency
solution) to attach it to an external FireWire hard drive or my
iPod. Just me seeing things too easy I guess.

cheers,
Bernd
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--
**** Lau of Calgary
[email protected]
 
sjh said:
****,

5 segment D-TTL is proven technology. It is the same as the D-TTL
technology in the professional D1x and D1h cameras.
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Proven technology??? Have you owned a D1 series camera?? I have D1 and D1H and the TTL flash is nothing short of ridiculous. If the flash technology in the D100 is the SAME as the D1H or D1X then DON'T buy one if you are after consistent TTL results! I am hoping that the results with TTL from the D100 are a LOT different to the D1 series!

Cameron
Bill Marks said:
The TTL in the S2 is based on 35mm film camera technology (F80)
which does not apply in the same way with a digital camera
(distance to film plane versus the CCD sensor).

Nikon's answer to this was to develop the D-TTL technology which
would give more accurate TTL with a digital SLR.

Rgds,

sjh
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