Vista Availability and Image Bank question

David Blehar · Jun 26, 2002

anyone know when the vista will be available?

For those of you with the Image Bank, is there any sort of confirmation that the files copied successfully or do you have to go on pure faith that the files you tried to dump to the Image Bank actually made it there successfully?

Thanks,

David

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Karl S. · Jun 26, 2002

Hi Blehar,

I've been using an IB for a year now with absolutely no problems. There is no confimation,ie,you can't view files or check to see how much space is used on the HDD.However when transfering, a series of bars on the LCD indicate download progress much the same as downloading from the internet to your computer.Supposedly if anything is not working you will get an error message.I have never seen one of these,as I said my IB has worked flawlessly from the beginning. I highly recommend it.

I guess there's a little faith involved in about everything we do in computing or electonics.
Regards,
Karl

Jim · Jun 26, 2002

Karl S. said:
Hi Blehar,

I've been using an IB for a year now with absolutely no problems.
There is no confimation,ie,you can't view files or check to see how
much space is used on the HDD.However when transfering, a series of
bars on the LCD indicate download progress much the same as
downloading from the internet to your computer.Supposedly if
anything is not working you will get an error message.I have never
seen one of these,as I said my IB has worked flawlessly from the
beginning. I highly recommend it.
I guess there's a little faith involved in about everything we do
in computing or electonics.
Regards,
Karl

I agree Karl. I love my Image Tank. No, no download confirmation, but mine hasn't failed me yet, and if there are error messages in this little box somewhere I've yet to see one.
God Bless,
Jim

Dick47 · Jun 26, 2002

I contacted Kerry Reuer, Nixvue's Director of Business Development. Per Kerry the Vistas have started shipping from the factory as of yesterday and will be here soon. State Street Direct has removed their "pre-order" message from the Vista and replaced it with 'normally ships within xx days'.

Probably a good sign.

David Blehar said:
anyone know when the vista will be available?

For those of you with the Image Bank, is there any sort of
confirmation that the files copied successfully or do you have to
go on pure faith that the files you tried to dump to the Image Bank
actually made it there successfully?

Thanks,

David

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David Blehar · Jun 26, 2002

Thanks guys. I know the vista is a lot more expensive, not upgradable, etc. but I would really feel uneasy deleting images off a CF card without having some verification that they had been copied successfully, especially in those situations where the shots cannot be redone, like a wedding for example. There is just too much riding on it to get by on faith. Its reassuring that no one has had any problems but I'm feeling neurotic enough to think there's a chance I would be the first.

Thanks again,

David

Dick47 said:
Probably a good sign.

David Blehar said:

anyone know when the vista will be available?

For those of you with the Image Bank, is there any sort of
confirmation that the files copied successfully or do you have to
go on pure faith that the files you tried to dump to the Image Bank
actually made it there successfully?

Thanks,

David

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Pat C · Jun 26, 2002

If all the bars don't show up during downloading the IB then something has happened--that's what the bars are for, to let you know if something has gone wrong during the download--If all show up, then everything's okay with that download--no problems--Pat

David Blehar said:
Thanks again,

David

Dick47 said:

Probably a good sign.

David Blehar said:

anyone know when the vista will be available?

For those of you with the Image Bank, is there any sort of
confirmation that the files copied successfully or do you have to
go on pure faith that the files you tried to dump to the Image Bank
actually made it there successfully?

Thanks,

David

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BOB44713 · Jun 27, 2002

David is absolutely right. When shooting an event like a wedding, comformation, if only for your own peace of mind, is absolutely neccessary before deleting any images from a compactflash card. My policy has been to carry enough cards so that I never have to delete images at the event. In that case an IB or whatever would make a nice backup for the day until you got home to download the images to your computer.

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Donald Cooper · Jun 27, 2002

I don't own either of these devices and I can see why you might want a Vista, but I don't understand your point here.

If you don't think you can trust the Image Bank to tell you if there has been an error, then why trust the Vista to tell you there isn't one? In both cases the device has to recognize there has been an error. In the case of the IB, it tells you that. In the Vista case, you ask if everything is OK and it says "NO". But if the device fails to recognize the error, the IB won't tell you anything and the Vista will tell you "YES, things are OK". In both cases you're equally screwed.

Or am I missing something?

BOB said:
David is absolutely right. When shooting an event like a wedding,
comformation, if only for your own peace of mind, is absolutely
neccessary before deleting any images from a compactflash card. My
policy has been to carry enough cards so that I never have to
delete images at the event. In that case an IB or whatever would
make a nice backup for the day until you got home to download the
images to your computer.

William C · Jun 27, 2002

Member said:
But if the device fails to recognize the error, the IB won't tell you
anything and the Vista will tell you "YES, things are OK". In both
cases you're equally screwed.

Or am I missing something?

The cost.

I had a Digital Wallet and now a Image Bank. Yes the Digital Wallet
would tell me when the uploaded was competed and if there were
any problems. Guess what, it also had a proprietary battery and when
it went dead, it was no good to me. You could not leave the battery
in it because even if it was off that DW was still discharges the battery
slowly. And let me add, I did not like the fact that when you recharge
the battery in the DW and that battery from the recharge process gets
HOT!. Scared me that me vauable photos where near something hot.

My IB has no extras and it is far cheaper that the DW. I have done
over 1000 uploads to my IB, never had a problem of losing files.

The DW was nothing but headaches and expensive ones.

Bill

Jim · Jun 27, 2002

William C said:
Member said:

But if the device fails to recognize the error, the IB won't tell you
anything and the Vista will tell you "YES, things are OK". In both
cases you're equally screwed.

Or am I missing something?

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The cost.

I had a Digital Wallet and now a Image Bank. Yes the Digital Wallet
would tell me when the uploaded was competed and if there were
any problems. Guess what, it also had a proprietary battery and when
it went dead, it was no good to me. You could not leave the battery
in it because even if it was off that DW was still discharges the
battery
slowly. And let me add, I did not like the fact that when you
recharge
the battery in the DW and that battery from the recharge process gets
HOT!. Scared me that me vauable photos where near something hot.

My IB has no extras and it is far cheaper that the DW. I have done
over 1000 uploads to my IB, never had a problem of losing files.

The DW was nothing but headaches and expensive ones.

Bill

Amen on the simplicity of the IT/B. Mine does have the lithium powerbank, which btw I just love, but it's not actually a part of the Bank, so it can be disconnected and shut everything down when you don't need it up. Which if I remember right is recommended anyway. And the cost difference...well I looked at the Nixvue, but I just could not justify the difference in price over the IT. Still can't.
God Bless,
Jim

Davidk · Jun 27, 2002

I'd have to agree. I'm hoping my IT will arrive tomorrow and even though confirmation would be a "nice to have" I'm happy to test and trust that all is well. The IT has been out and field tested enough to satisfy me. My IT purchase is mainly for a Disney World holiday this August. What I may do, just for redundancy, is to see if Disney has an "Office Setup" available where I can take my D-60, cards, and/or IT and dump to CD.

The IT is going to stay in the room for the most part so no bumps, but it's my first device like this so I may play it more cautious. Davidk.

Jim said:
William C said:

Member said:

But if the device fails to recognize the error, the IB won't tell you
anything and the Vista will tell you "YES, things are OK". In both
cases you're equally screwed.

Or am I missing something?

Click to expand...

The cost.

I had a Digital Wallet and now a Image Bank. Yes the Digital Wallet
would tell me when the uploaded was competed and if there were
any problems. Guess what, it also had a proprietary battery and when
it went dead, it was no good to me. You could not leave the battery
in it because even if it was off that DW was still discharges the
battery
slowly. And let me add, I did not like the fact that when you
recharge
the battery in the DW and that battery from the recharge process gets
HOT!. Scared me that me vauable photos where near something hot.

My IB has no extras and it is far cheaper that the DW. I have done
over 1000 uploads to my IB, never had a problem of losing files.

The DW was nothing but headaches and expensive ones.

Bill

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Amen on the simplicity of the IT/B. Mine does have the lithium
powerbank, which btw I just love, but it's not actually a part of
the Bank, so it can be disconnected and shut everything down when
you don't need it up. Which if I remember right is recommended
anyway. And the cost difference...well I looked at the Nixvue, but
I just could not justify the difference in price over the IT. Still
can't.
God Bless,
Jim

David Blehar · Jun 27, 2002

Don,

I think its at least reassuring to be able to look through the menu and see that all the files you had on the CF card are now listed on the HD of the vista. Like I said before, maybe I'm just being neurotic but man cannot live on faith alone.

I guess I will pay the price for not being trusting. I'm at the advantage of getting this as a graduation gift so I have to think about the price less. To be honest, if price were a bigger concern, I would have a hard time justifying the vista over the image bank.

Anyway, we'll see. I called B&H today and they said its going to be a few weeks before they have the vista in. More waiting...

-David

Don Cooper said:
If you don't think you can trust the Image Bank to tell you if
there has been an error, then why trust the Vista to tell you there
isn't one? In both cases the device has to recognize there has been
an error. In the case of the IB, it tells you that. In the Vista
case, you ask if everything is OK and it says "NO". But if the
device fails to recognize the error, the IB won't tell you anything
and the Vista will tell you "YES, things are OK". In both cases
you're equally screwed.

Or am I missing something?

BOB said:

David is absolutely right. When shooting an event like a wedding,
comformation, if only for your own peace of mind, is absolutely
neccessary before deleting any images from a compactflash card. My
policy has been to carry enough cards so that I never have to
delete images at the event. In that case an IB or whatever would
make a nice backup for the day until you got home to download the
images to your computer.

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