d90 video -- the dvxuser forum verdict

larrytusaz wrote:
I've lived for nearly 40 years

larrytusaz said:

and shot with SLRs--film or digital--for 25 years, at whatever level
of excellence or mediocrity, and have studied and read and observed
and experienced how SLRs have always been about singular excellence
where it concerned still photography.

Once you got an SLR, you had "arrived"--maybe the photos weren't
pro-quality YET, but at least now you could no longer blame it on
inadequate equipment as being the reason.

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[Once you got an SLR, you had "arrived"]

Are you fricking kidding me? When you say SLR, you mean 35mm. 35mm SLR has always been near the bottom rung of quality. It has always been: Once you got a 4x5, 8x10 view camera or at the very least a medium format camera, then you've arrived. 35mm has always been the camera used by the masses, and professionals that shot it in their field of work as a necessity and worked around its small frame size to compensate for its shortcomings by shooting fine grain 32 ASA films when possible which was rare. Plus X more common and preferrable and Tri X even more so.

[...and experienced how SLRs have always been about singular excellence
where it concerned still photography.]

I really wonder how much you know about photography. SLR has always been only the first stepping stone to those pursuing excellance in photograpy and a barely tolerable one at that. The SLR is as little as you can go and still achieve some modicom of control and excellance. It violated the tradition of photographic excellance on the first day its sorry existance made itself known to mankind. It did however bring some convenience to the world of photography, and we reluctantly embraced it because of that and only that.

taking fabulous photos and knowing the history of photography are two different things. The latter will never make your photos better.

I said it before and I will say it again. I'm glad nikon did it and I'm sure others will follow.

By the way, do you why standards exist? Because of a thing called compatibility, not because it is cool, or because it makes you a pro talking about them. Ask how many use dslr lenses to film, it was bound to happen.

How about the Internet , do you know anything about it's origins and why it was invEnted? Surely not for to argue about dslrs having a movie mode...
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Pushed the button and the world stood still.

larrytusaz said:

...video doesn't belong on an SLR, as a matter of principle, it's
blasphemous. It's dumbing down for the masses nothing more. That's
the ONLY right point of view about this, not sorry to say it. Not
trying to be cocky I just believe it with everything in me.
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This is absolutely crazy and I can't believe I am even responding. If you don't like it, don't buy it. Think market forces. If enough people don't buy it because it is dumb then Nikon will stop building it.

I want the video. I am not a video pro. I don't take hours of video and I don't want to carry two different cameras when one device can do both. I want one camera that takes photos and video. I travel and have two teenagers. I want one device to drag across the country that does both.

Nikon may have met my need. I hope so. Get over it.

Of course you want video. Nikon met your "need" long ago--with a Coolpix. I have no problem with that, help yourself. I don't begrudge you that.

I am single-minded about STILL image photography and don't want SLRs to be anything but that, nothing else. The D90 may not compromise that excellence but will that always be? If I can leave your Coolpix alone, you can leave my SLRs alone.
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I don't want the Coolpix. I want a good dSLR with video capability. Nikon may have met my want. Free markets are a wonderful thing.

bdaniel said:

I don't want the Coolpix. I want a good dSLR with video capability.
Nikon may have met my want. Free markets are a wonderful thing.

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You just proved my point--it's all about pleasing the idiots who demand a Swiss Army Knife YouTubing gimmick out of a tool designed for the specialists. Some wants shouldn't be satisfied, just like people want Chick Fil A to be open on Sunday but oh well, tough luck. I sure hope that ultimately happens here.
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(Treo 650)

Guys, don't feed the troll.

Ryan Stewart said:

The truth is all form of art died when we stopped drawing on the
walls of caves with blood, dirt and berries.

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It was those softies sheltering in the caves that did it. Traditional monkies live in trees.

he is just very passionate about his chicken. \o/

my guess is that he is afraid of being gutted by an angry mob of soccer moms using swiss army knifes and having it posted on youtube.

oh and the ability to grab some vid from a dslr is great imo.