CF card size & *istD

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I want to use RAW more but my 2GB cards don't cut it. I see CF cards with 12 & 16 GB. How large a CF card can I use with my trusty old *istD?
Steve-Seattle
 
Why do you have an issue with 2 Gig cards? I use them all the time with my K20. I wouldn't want to lose a lot of images if a card went bad so I've stayed away from the really large cards. I do use 4 Gig, however.

I'm not familiar with the *istD but I thought all Pentax cameras used SD cards, not CF...
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I want to use RAW more but my 2GB cards don't cut it. I see CF cards
with 12 & 16 GB. How large a CF card can I use with my trusty old
*istD?
Steve-Seattle
I used 4GB in mine. The raw files are larger than the K10D raw files, so that's handy. At this remove, I can no longer recall whether I used 8GB or not, but I don't think so, because cards hadn't come down near their present prices then.

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I have never found any official data on CF card size limits. I suspect it is higher than I would want to pay for though, probably 32Gb.

I use a couple of Lexar Premium Series 80X 8Gb cards in my *istD without any problems. Startup time is a couple of seconds longer than my Sandisk Extreme III 2Gb cards so I choose which card to use according to the subject. I suspect that the bigger the card the longer the startup time will be. Anybody out there with a bigger card care to test?

The *istD doesn't have a high write speed so won't see any performance increase through higher speed cards, this only benefits read speed through a card reader when uploading to the pc.

I went for the Lexar 8Gb card mainly on price and brand. These cards can be had for £21 in the UK. I get 553 RAW shots per card.

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i have the *istD and use 4gb microdrives all the time. also 1gb 2gb 4gb and 8gb CF cards. no problems at all. have used 1gb and 2gb microdrives as well.
 
A 4GB card will hold about 287 RAW files on the *ist-D. You need to make sure you have the latest firmware update V 1.12 to go past 2GB, This allows the camera to read FAT32 that cards over 2GB use.
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Mike V.
 
Why do you have an issue with 2 Gig cards?
I love and use my 2GB cards all the time when I am saving as jpeg. But when I use RAW, they only hold around 140 photos and that comes quick. I hate having to stop and change cards.

Roland's right about the *istD being the only Pentax DSLR to use CF cards. It's been around a while, I've had mine since 2003 so it's really old in digital time, but so am I.
Thanks for the input.
Steve-Seattle
 
Related question; I'll tack it onto this old thread to keep all the info together.

Does anyone know what the max write speed is on the *istD? CF card technology has come a long way in the last few years, but I don't want to pay for faster CF cards than the camera can effectively use.

The SanDisk Extreme III's advertise 30MB/s Extreme IV's are 45MB/s! However, I'm guessing that my elderly *istD can't keep up.

Can it do 20MB/s? 15MB/s?

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  • Rich Stevens
 
Why do you have an issue with 2 Gig cards? I use them all the time
with my K20. I wouldn't want to lose a lot of images if a card went
bad so I've stayed away from the really large cards. I do use 4 Gig,
however.

I'm not familiar with the *istD but I thought all Pentax cameras used
SD cards, not CF...
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The *istD was Pentax's first DSLR; it uses compact flash; it also has raw files that are about 20% larger than those later in the D cameras. When I had my *istD bodies, I used an 8 GB CF card (loaner) with no problem, but mostly used 4 gigs.

As an incidental point, the *istD has a slow enough write to card time that it's basically a waste of money to get high speed cards.

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Related question; I'll tack it onto this old thread to keep all the
info together.

Does anyone know what the max write speed is on the *istD? CF card
technology has come a long way in the last few years, but I don't
want to pay for faster CF cards than the camera can effectively use.

The SanDisk Extreme III's advertise 30MB/s Extreme IV's are 45MB/s!
However, I'm guessing that my elderly *istD can't keep up.

Can it do 20MB/s? 15MB/s?
No. I answered above thinking this was a new thread, but...the *istD has a slow write to card time. Don't waste money on high speed cards, as they don't change a thing. That's the voice of experience. I jumped on a couple of fast two gig cards early on, and found no difference from ye olde basic cards.

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Do you mean, no, it can't even go 15MB/s? It seems, normal, run-of-the-mill (i.e. Walmart) CF cards are 12 or 15 MB/s these days? Are even relative slowpokes those faster than I need? Can I simply look for rock-bottom deals on older, slower cards, and not suffer speed-wise?

Bargain-bin CF has some appeal to me... with a 14-year-old DSLR novice in the house, it's better to have a bunch of cheap cards around than a few expensive ones. Raises our chances of being able to find a card when we need one.

Is it possible to go too** slow when shopping for CF for a *istD?
 
Do you mean, no, it can't even go 15MB/s? It seems, normal,
run-of-the-mill (i.e. Walmart) CF cards are 12 or 15 MB/s these days?
Are even relative slowpokes those faster than I need? Can I simply
look for rock-bottom deals on older, slower cards, and not suffer
speed-wise?

Bargain-bin CF has some appeal to me... with a 14-year-old DSLR
novice in the house, it's better to have a bunch of cheap cards
around than a few expensive ones. Raises our chances of being able
to find a card when we need one.

Is it possible to go too** slow when shopping for CF for a *istD?
The *istD goes pretty slow on write to CF. According to the review at http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/PentaxIstD/page9.asp it managed about 1½MB/sec, or about 8 sec per RAW file. The buffer holds about 3 raw files. Both the write speed and the buffer size are real issues with the *istD. I still have mine, and can assure you that there is little difference in speed between SanDisk Extreme III and SanDisk blue (cheapest) CF cards.

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for the *istD, this website in their dslr test of the *istD in showing a max write speed of 1.5mb/sec. or 1500kb/sec. so 1500/150=10X. any card that is 10x or faster will take the max speed the camera can write. this is any cf card from sandisk from the standard card on up.

i have the *istD as well. i am using microdrives(1,2, and 4gb sizes) and/or standard cf cards from sandisk. the cards i have used are the 1,2,4, and 8gb sizes. all work fine.
 
for the *istD, this website in their dslr test of the *istD in
showing a max write speed of 1.5mb/sec. or 1500kb/sec. so
1500/150=10X. any card that is 10x or faster will take the max speed
the camera can write. this is any cf card from sandisk from the
standard card on up.

i have the *istD as well. i am using microdrives(1,2, and 4gb sizes)
and/or standard cf cards from sandisk. the cards i have used are the
1,2,4, and 8gb sizes. all work fine.
Cool. I found some older Kingston 2GB 33x cards online for $11, 4GB 50x for $20. Cheap memory - me likes.
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  • Rich Stevens
 
Do you mean, no, it can't even go 15MB/s? It seems, normal,
run-of-the-mill (i.e. Walmart) CF cards are 12 or 15 MB/s these days?
Are even relative slowpokes those faster than I need? Can I simply
look for rock-bottom deals on older, slower cards, and not suffer
speed-wise?

Bargain-bin CF has some appeal to me... with a 14-year-old DSLR
novice in the house, it's better to have a bunch of cheap cards
around than a few expensive ones. Raises our chances of being able
to find a card when we need one.

Is it possible to go too** slow when shopping for CF for a *istD?
I haven't checked in the past year or so--I've got K10D bodies now--but I somehow think that regular, non-turbo, whatever, CF cards are low enough in price that I'd not worry overmuch about cost. I almost literally gave away the CF cards I had when I sold my *istD bodies.

I just checked: Newegg.com has 4GB Kingston cards with plenty of speed for the *istD at $18.50 plus seven bucks shipping. Faster Transcend 4 gig cards are about three bucks higher.

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Charlie Self
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