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Having two very fine cameras on hand, I thought it would be a shame if I didn't line em' up and have a photo shootout! So, for you dear readers that have been so patient with my new business direction this week, I decided to take the day off and devote this gallery to you!

The setup: Each camera was fitted with similar lenses (Canon 28-105 USM and Nikkor 24-120 AF). Both lenses are at a similar price- so the comparison should be somewhat reasonable but certainly not scientific. All pics were shot within the working range of the Canon which is 28-105mm. Metering was set to "Evaluative" on both cameras. Also, both cameras were in PROGRAM mode to enable each camera design to make its' best decision on exposure. Both cameras were set in high quality JPG mode with factory default settings for parameters and such. Auto white balance was used-- and ISO's were 100 and 125 for the appropriate camera. No color corrections, levels or curves were performed. Images were resized- then the identical amount of very, very light USM were applied for the web.

The results? Well, I think you'll be surprised--- then surprised again. Your opinions on your favortites are most welcome and you can post them here or in the gallery below the pictures. The intent is not to choose a winner (because there is none), but to enjoy and evaluate the differences among 2 products that are considered first rate.

My opinion? Of course I have those too. But I'll wait to see what you come up with first and I'll post my reactions a little later...

The Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/moviebear/d1x_vs_d60

Have Fun!
 
D60 shots are darker but the camera's higher resolution show its worth.

Too bad Canon doesn't have its act together enough to get these cameras on the shelves. I refuse to wait in line for one.
Movie Bear said:
Having two very fine cameras on hand, I thought it would be a shame
if I didn't line em' up and have a photo shootout! So, for you dear
readers that have been so patient with my new business direction
this week, I decided to take the day off and devote this gallery to
you!

The setup: Each camera was fitted with similar lenses (Canon 28-105
USM and Nikkor 24-120 AF). Both lenses are at a similar price- so
the comparison should be somewhat reasonable but certainly not
scientific. All pics were shot within the working range of the
Canon which is 28-105mm. Metering was set to "Evaluative" on both
cameras. Also, both cameras were in PROGRAM mode to enable each
camera design to make its' best decision on exposure. Both cameras
were set in high quality JPG mode with factory default settings for
parameters and such. Auto white balance was used-- and ISO's were
100 and 125 for the appropriate camera. No color corrections,
levels or curves were performed. Images were resized- then the
identical amount of very, very light USM were applied for the web.

The results? Well, I think you'll be surprised--- then surprised
again. Your opinions on your favortites are most welcome and you
can post them here or in the gallery below the pictures. The
intent is not to choose a winner (because there is none), but to
enjoy and evaluate the differences among 2 products that are
considered first rate.

My opinion? Of course I have those too. But I'll wait to see what
you come up with first and I'll post my reactions a little later...

The Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/moviebear/d1x_vs_d60

Have Fun!
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Moviebear, I would hardly consider your comparison fair with the lenses you've chosen to use: the Nikkor 24-120 (rated a 2.3 out of 5) is the second lowest rated Nikkor lens on the photodo.com site (out of 70+ lenses)!! If you have a Nikkor 28-105 (rated 3.2), that would make a much better comparison to the Canon 28-105 (rated 3.3).

http://www.photodo.com/nav/prodindex.html

-Gilbert
--
http://www.gilbertmabel.com
Movie Bear said:
Having two very fine cameras on hand, I thought it would be a shame
if I didn't line em' up and have a photo shootout! So, for you dear
readers that have been so patient with my new business direction
this week, I decided to take the day off and devote this gallery to
you!

The setup: Each camera was fitted with similar lenses (Canon 28-105
USM and Nikkor 24-120 AF). Both lenses are at a similar price- so
the comparison should be somewhat reasonable but certainly not
scientific. All pics were shot within the working range of the
Canon which is 28-105mm. Metering was set to "Evaluative" on both
cameras. Also, both cameras were in PROGRAM mode to enable each
camera design to make its' best decision on exposure. Both cameras
were set in high quality JPG mode with factory default settings for
parameters and such. Auto white balance was used-- and ISO's were
100 and 125 for the appropriate camera. No color corrections,
levels or curves were performed. Images were resized- then the
identical amount of very, very light USM were applied for the web.

The results? Well, I think you'll be surprised--- then surprised
again. Your opinions on your favortites are most welcome and you
can post them here or in the gallery below the pictures. The
intent is not to choose a winner (because there is none), but to
enjoy and evaluate the differences among 2 products that are
considered first rate.

My opinion? Of course I have those too. But I'll wait to see what
you come up with first and I'll post my reactions a little later...

The Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/moviebear/d1x_vs_d60

Have Fun!
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Hi!

One of the MTF lens point counters... (:

Have I to tell you that the optical performance is much more than MTF rating (at infinity)?

I own some lenses, primes and this nikon zoom as well. It is astounding in some points that were the reasons why I bought it. It has astounding flaw resistance for such a zoom and remarkable contrast also MTF "sharpness" may not be too good.

I konw nothing about the canon zoom but is it as flare prone and provides good contrast beond MFT rating at infinity? (My feeling is no concerning to a lot of C* lens flare tests I saw, even L glass...)

But to sum up, I wouldn't tell both lenses killers... (:

Regards. A. Schiele
Gilbert said:
http://www.photodo.com/nav/prodindex.html

-Gilbert
--
http://www.gilbertmabel.com
Movie Bear said:
Having two very fine cameras on hand, I thought it would be a shame
if I didn't line em' up and have a photo shootout! So, for you dear
readers that have been so patient with my new business direction
this week, I decided to take the day off and devote this gallery to
you!

The setup: Each camera was fitted with similar lenses (Canon 28-105
USM and Nikkor 24-120 AF). Both lenses are at a similar price- so
the comparison should be somewhat reasonable but certainly not
scientific. All pics were shot within the working range of the
Canon which is 28-105mm. Metering was set to "Evaluative" on both
cameras. Also, both cameras were in PROGRAM mode to enable each
camera design to make its' best decision on exposure. Both cameras
were set in high quality JPG mode with factory default settings for
parameters and such. Auto white balance was used-- and ISO's were
100 and 125 for the appropriate camera. No color corrections,
levels or curves were performed. Images were resized- then the
identical amount of very, very light USM were applied for the web.

The results? Well, I think you'll be surprised--- then surprised
again. Your opinions on your favortites are most welcome and you
can post them here or in the gallery below the pictures. The
intent is not to choose a winner (because there is none), but to
enjoy and evaluate the differences among 2 products that are
considered first rate.

My opinion? Of course I have those too. But I'll wait to see what
you come up with first and I'll post my reactions a little later...

The Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/moviebear/d1x_vs_d60

Have Fun!
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Yeah, but other than pure pixel count, I personally prefer the D1x images across the board.

All the D60 images look dark to me. I guess it goes to show that even thru the 24-120, the D1x shines.

Rick
Gilbert said:
http://www.photodo.com/nav/prodindex.html

-Gilbert
--
http://www.gilbertmabel.com
Movie Bear said:
Having two very fine cameras on hand, I thought it would be a shame
if I didn't line em' up and have a photo shootout! So, for you dear
readers that have been so patient with my new business direction
this week, I decided to take the day off and devote this gallery to
you!

The setup: Each camera was fitted with similar lenses (Canon 28-105
USM and Nikkor 24-120 AF). Both lenses are at a similar price- so
the comparison should be somewhat reasonable but certainly not
scientific. All pics were shot within the working range of the
Canon which is 28-105mm. Metering was set to "Evaluative" on both
cameras. Also, both cameras were in PROGRAM mode to enable each
camera design to make its' best decision on exposure. Both cameras
were set in high quality JPG mode with factory default settings for
parameters and such. Auto white balance was used-- and ISO's were
100 and 125 for the appropriate camera. No color corrections,
levels or curves were performed. Images were resized- then the
identical amount of very, very light USM were applied for the web.

The results? Well, I think you'll be surprised--- then surprised
again. Your opinions on your favortites are most welcome and you
can post them here or in the gallery below the pictures. The
intent is not to choose a winner (because there is none), but to
enjoy and evaluate the differences among 2 products that are
considered first rate.

My opinion? Of course I have those too. But I'll wait to see what
you come up with first and I'll post my reactions a little later...

The Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/moviebear/d1x_vs_d60

Have Fun!
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I completely agree that MTF charts does not tell you everything about optical performance, but it is definitely gives some objective indication of optical quality...My point is that the 24-120 tries to do a little more at both ends of the zoom range and usually that means a compromise in optical quality as compared to a zoom with a smaller range such as a 28-105 or 35-70.

I would have liked to see a comparison with both cameras with 50mm lenses.

-Gilbert
--
http://www.gilbertmabel.com
alfred_schiele said:
One of the MTF lens point counters... (:

Have I to tell you that the optical performance is much more than
MTF rating (at infinity)?

I own some lenses, primes and this nikon zoom as well. It is
astounding in some points that were the reasons why I bought it. It
has astounding flaw resistance for such a zoom and remarkable
contrast also MTF "sharpness" may not be too good.

I konw nothing about the canon zoom but is it as flare prone and
provides good contrast beond MFT rating at infinity? (My feeling is
no concerning to a lot of C* lens flare tests I saw, even L
glass...)

But to sum up, I wouldn't tell both lenses killers... (:

Regards. A. Schiele
Gilbert said:
http://www.photodo.com/nav/prodindex.html

-Gilbert
--
http://www.gilbertmabel.com
Movie Bear said:
Having two very fine cameras on hand, I thought it would be a shame
if I didn't line em' up and have a photo shootout! So, for you dear
readers that have been so patient with my new business direction
this week, I decided to take the day off and devote this gallery to
you!

The setup: Each camera was fitted with similar lenses (Canon 28-105
USM and Nikkor 24-120 AF). Both lenses are at a similar price- so
the comparison should be somewhat reasonable but certainly not
scientific. All pics were shot within the working range of the
Canon which is 28-105mm. Metering was set to "Evaluative" on both
cameras. Also, both cameras were in PROGRAM mode to enable each
camera design to make its' best decision on exposure. Both cameras
were set in high quality JPG mode with factory default settings for
parameters and such. Auto white balance was used-- and ISO's were
100 and 125 for the appropriate camera. No color corrections,
levels or curves were performed. Images were resized- then the
identical amount of very, very light USM were applied for the web.

The results? Well, I think you'll be surprised--- then surprised
again. Your opinions on your favortites are most welcome and you
can post them here or in the gallery below the pictures. The
intent is not to choose a winner (because there is none), but to
enjoy and evaluate the differences among 2 products that are
considered first rate.

My opinion? Of course I have those too. But I'll wait to see what
you come up with first and I'll post my reactions a little later...

The Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/moviebear/d1x_vs_d60

Have Fun!
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mrwally said:
Yeah, but other than pure pixel count, I personally prefer the D1x
images across the board.

All the D60 images look dark to me. I guess it goes to show that
even thru the 24-120, the D1x shines.
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Can't agree here ... I am comitted to the Nikon system but in
this comparison the D60 wins hands down. The D1x images are
flat and sort of overexposed. I prefer slight underexposure ...
gives me more freedom in post processing ... If you want ready
out of camera pics.. buy a p&s camera ...

In this example it was stated ... all default setting ... no post processing
other than light USM ... not top end glass ...

In real life you probably take these pix with a slight underexposure on
the D1x and as is with the D60 although the images are a bit warm to
me, but thats easy fixed ...

What it tells me ... I am happy not to spend big bucks on a D1x today
(great camera at the time it came out) and D1X, D100, D60, S2 are
close together as far as image quality goes and its almost like splitting
hair to discuss differences in image quality ... very subjective anyway
and in many cases you may not want to see the finest detail ...

The lens systems, features, budget, image and whatever else are factors
influencing decisions ...

I'd like to have a "compact" SLR like the D100/D60 with the ruggedness of the D1X and the speed of the 1D at 10MP (thats plenty anyway for me)
so I don't have to buy a H20 AND a 1D/D1H ... and I am sure its coming
.. just a few years ... until then I play with the toys D60/D100/S2

regards
gmd
 
mrwally said:
Yeah, but other than pure pixel count, I personally prefer the D1x
images across the board.

All the D60 images look dark to me. I guess it goes to show that
even thru the 24-120, the D1x shines.

Rick
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Would have to agree. In almost every side by side comparison of D1x/h to others I see a smoother, more natural looking image; with a much nicer sense of volume and depth with the D1x. Purely subjective, but isn't that what Art and photography's all about??

Both the D60 and D1x are superior to the new "Coolpix", the D100.

--
Michael OHara / WetPlanet / Honolulu
http://www.DiveSlates.com
 
Michael, I agree with you 100%
Michael OHara said:
mrwally said:
Yeah, but other than pure pixel count, I personally prefer the D1x
images across the board.

All the D60 images look dark to me. I guess it goes to show that
even thru the 24-120, the D1x shines.

Rick
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Would have to agree. In almost every side by side comparison of
D1x/h to others I see a smoother, more natural looking image; with
a much nicer sense of volume and depth with the D1x. Purely
subjective, but isn't that what Art and photography's all about??

Both the D60 and D1x are superior to the new "Coolpix", the D100.

--
Michael OHara / WetPlanet / Honolulu
http://www.DiveSlates.com
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Here is my round up:

Image 1: Nikon +1
The D60 has a magenta tint that lets it down. This can be easily removed in PS.
The blue sky and green trees are more stable on the Nikon.

Image 2: Tie
D60 retains slight magenta tint. But very slight.

Image 3: Canon +1

No contest here. The D60 makes the lilly pads simply splendid. The D1X has a tough time with this one.

Image 4: Canon +1

Both the D1X and the D60 can't get the white balance correct. D1X wants it way too blue and the D60 wants too magenta. However, the D60 is altogether more accurate here. A custom white balance on either camera would have produced more accurate and similar results.

Image 5: Tie

The more natural skin tones serve the D60 well. Just a pinch less red from the D1X would have swayed it a bit. However, the Nikkor lens adds just a drop more detail in the skin and sand.

Image 6: Nikkon +1

This is a tough one to call. The tire is black on the D1X as it should be. The D60 wants to warm up the tire a bit-- and the man in the left background is way too tan on the D60. Again, I want to emphasize this can be fixed in PS.

Image 7: Canon +1

The D60 holds the green grass during the blown highlights of the tire. The D1X wants to elevate the highlights of the grass as well as the tire. RAW would have helped along with paying closer attention to the histogram.

Image 8: Tie
No significant differences in the floral shot.

Image 9: Canon +1

Both the D60 and the D1X overexpose and blow out the lawn in the left background. However, inside the arbor (which is the main subject), the D60 produces stronger midtones and improved shadow detail. The D1X adds a green cast to the concrete and wood overhangs.

Image 10: Nikon +1

This time, the D1X clearly holds the blue sky while maintaining a natural green in the lawn. The magenta cast from the D60 in both the sky and the lawn let it down.

Image 11: Tie

No significant differences here. Except that the second house on the left background gets a total color change when shifting from the D1X example to the D60 example. You pick the color you like!

Image 12: Nikon +1

The Canon 28-105 bends the table post too much. The D1X image clearly has more punch while resolving a glossy detail on the table surface. The D60 is flat. Also, the D1X manages the solid black color of the table post accurately.

It's a tie!!!! Both sets scored the same points in this unscientific, poorly documented but interesting interactive adventure!
 
My vote is two ties, three for D60, and the rest for D1X. Some were very tough to chose. I'm glad you did not make us guess which photo came from which camera.

Regards,
Trent
Movie Bear said:
Having two very fine cameras on hand, I thought it would be a shame
if I didn't line em' up and have a photo shootout! So, for you dear
readers that have been so patient with my new business direction
this week, I decided to take the day off and devote this gallery to
you!

The setup: Each camera was fitted with similar lenses (Canon 28-105
USM and Nikkor 24-120 AF). Both lenses are at a similar price- so
the comparison should be somewhat reasonable but certainly not
scientific. All pics were shot within the working range of the
Canon which is 28-105mm. Metering was set to "Evaluative" on both
cameras. Also, both cameras were in PROGRAM mode to enable each
camera design to make its' best decision on exposure. Both cameras
were set in high quality JPG mode with factory default settings for
parameters and such. Auto white balance was used-- and ISO's were
100 and 125 for the appropriate camera. No color corrections,
levels or curves were performed. Images were resized- then the
identical amount of very, very light USM were applied for the web.

The results? Well, I think you'll be surprised--- then surprised
again. Your opinions on your favortites are most welcome and you
can post them here or in the gallery below the pictures. The
intent is not to choose a winner (because there is none), but to
enjoy and evaluate the differences among 2 products that are
considered first rate.

My opinion? Of course I have those too. But I'll wait to see what
you come up with first and I'll post my reactions a little later...

The Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/moviebear/d1x_vs_d60

Have Fun!
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MB,

Thanks for the comparison. To me I could really care less about the detail and more on the color accuracy.

Which one seems to be more accurate with color? Or is it easier to flip a coin because it sways from camera to camera?

-James
Movie Bear said:
Here is my round up:

Image 1: Nikon +1
The D60 has a magenta tint that lets it down. This can be easily
removed in PS.
The blue sky and green trees are more stable on the Nikon.

Image 2: Tie
D60 retains slight magenta tint. But very slight.

Image 3: Canon +1
No contest here. The D60 makes the lilly pads simply splendid. The
D1X has a tough time with this one.

Image 4: Canon +1
Both the D1X and the D60 can't get the white balance correct. D1X
wants it way too blue and the D60 wants too magenta. However, the
D60 is altogether more accurate here. A custom white balance on
either camera would have produced more accurate and similar results.

Image 5: Tie
The more natural skin tones serve the D60 well. Just a pinch less
red from the D1X would have swayed it a bit. However, the Nikkor
lens adds just a drop more detail in the skin and sand.

Image 6: Nikkon +1
This is a tough one to call. The tire is black on the D1X as it
should be. The D60 wants to warm up the tire a bit-- and the man in
the left background is way too tan on the D60. Again, I want to
emphasize this can be fixed in PS.

Image 7: Canon +1
The D60 holds the green grass during the blown highlights of the
tire. The D1X wants to elevate the highlights of the grass as well
as the tire. RAW would have helped along with paying closer
attention to the histogram.

Image 8: Tie
No significant differences in the floral shot.

Image 9: Canon +1
Both the D60 and the D1X overexpose and blow out the lawn in the
left background. However, inside the arbor (which is the main
subject), the D60 produces stronger midtones and improved shadow
detail. The D1X adds a green cast to the concrete and wood
overhangs.

Image 10: Nikon +1
This time, the D1X clearly holds the blue sky while maintaining a
natural green in the lawn. The magenta cast from the D60 in both
the sky and the lawn let it down.

Image 11: Tie
No significant differences here. Except that the second house on
the left background gets a total color change when shifting from
the D1X example to the D60 example. You pick the color you like!

Image 12: Nikon +1
The Canon 28-105 bends the table post too much. The D1X image
clearly has more punch while resolving a glossy detail on the table
surface. The D60 is flat. Also, the D1X manages the solid black
color of the table post accurately.

It's a tie!!!! Both sets scored the same points in this
unscientific, poorly documented but interesting interactive
adventure!
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Movie Bear,

Thank you! I would have had difficulty identifying a Nikon from a Canon output. In fact very subjective study, and thank you for the effort.

I have a D1x and most of my friends have the 1d/D60. And they have been convincing me to shift to Canon. While I have to admit that there have been shots that had almost swayed me into trading in my d1x, i have manage to still take pictures with the d1x that tells me I have a better camera overall.

If I wanted an immediate pre-conditioned result, I could have settled for any P&S camera as earlier suggested.

After all, NOT EVERYONE WAS MEANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

Please visit my site and give me your honest opinion.

Derick
Amatuer photographer, hobbyist
http://www.pbase.com/manilaman
 
Hi!
Gilbert44749 said:
I completely agree that MTF charts does not tell you everything
about optical performance, but it is definitely gives some
objective indication of optical quality...
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Accepted. It is one point. I sometimes have the impression people are obseesed by such informations (:
Gilbert44749 said:
My point is that the
24-120 tries to do a little more at both ends of the zoom range and
usually that means a compromise in optical quality
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In general I agree.
Gilbert44749 said:
as compared to a
zoom with a smaller range such as a 28-105 or 35-70.
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In general yes, if the rest is of comparable quality

I struggeld a long time using any zoom after some "first time buyers dissapointment" years ago that made me switch to primes completely... but this 24-120 zoom isn't as bad as the MTF value suggests. The combination of all factors is well balaced in this zoom... and made me buy. I had easily accepted a tele limit of 85... the 24 I found very usful, more than I initially thought. On the other hand it is true that I didnt buy this zoom for brilliant slides or doing A3 prints... I wanted it for the other stuff and for extemes I still use the primes.
Gilbert44749 said:
I would have liked to see a comparison with both cameras with 50mm
lenses.
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You are right that a comparison should have been done with more similar lenses but to be honest, what I saw was reduced resolution, so where should the fine difference in sharpness be?

Regards, A. Schiele
Gilbert44749 said:
-Gilbert
--
http://www.gilbertmabel.com
alfred_schiele said:
One of the MTF lens point counters... (:

Have I to tell you that the optical performance is much more than
MTF rating (at infinity)?

I own some lenses, primes and this nikon zoom as well. It is
astounding in some points that were the reasons why I bought it. It
has astounding flaw resistance for such a zoom and remarkable
contrast also MTF "sharpness" may not be too good.

I konw nothing about the canon zoom but is it as flare prone and
provides good contrast beond MFT rating at infinity? (My feeling is
no concerning to a lot of C* lens flare tests I saw, even L
glass...)

But to sum up, I wouldn't tell both lenses killers... (:

Regards. A. Schiele
Gilbert said:
http://www.photodo.com/nav/prodindex.html

-Gilbert
--
http://www.gilbertmabel.com
Movie Bear said:
Having two very fine cameras on hand, I thought it would be a shame
if I didn't line em' up and have a photo shootout! So, for you dear
readers that have been so patient with my new business direction
this week, I decided to take the day off and devote this gallery to
you!

The setup: Each camera was fitted with similar lenses (Canon 28-105
USM and Nikkor 24-120 AF). Both lenses are at a similar price- so
the comparison should be somewhat reasonable but certainly not
scientific. All pics were shot within the working range of the
Canon which is 28-105mm. Metering was set to "Evaluative" on both
cameras. Also, both cameras were in PROGRAM mode to enable each
camera design to make its' best decision on exposure. Both cameras
were set in high quality JPG mode with factory default settings for
parameters and such. Auto white balance was used-- and ISO's were
100 and 125 for the appropriate camera. No color corrections,
levels or curves were performed. Images were resized- then the
identical amount of very, very light USM were applied for the web.

The results? Well, I think you'll be surprised--- then surprised
again. Your opinions on your favortites are most welcome and you
can post them here or in the gallery below the pictures. The
intent is not to choose a winner (because there is none), but to
enjoy and evaluate the differences among 2 products that are
considered first rate.

My opinion? Of course I have those too. But I'll wait to see what
you come up with first and I'll post my reactions a little later...

The Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/moviebear/d1x_vs_d60

Have Fun!
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I have many friends with D60, but they seems like my D1x pictures... and some want switching to Nikon gear...:D

GH
Derick Gamboa said:
Movie Bear,

Thank you! I would have had difficulty identifying a Nikon from a
Canon output. In fact very subjective study, and thank you for the
effort.

I have a D1x and most of my friends have the 1d/D60. And they have
been convincing me to shift to Canon. While I have to admit that
there have been shots that had almost swayed me into trading in my
d1x, i have manage to still take pictures with the d1x that tells
me I have a better camera overall.

If I wanted an immediate pre-conditioned result, I could have
settled for any P&S camera as earlier suggested.

After all, NOT EVERYONE WAS MEANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!

Please visit my site and give me your honest opinion.

Derick
Amatuer photographer, hobbyist
http://www.pbase.com/manilaman
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http://www.life-style-21.com/forums/
Nikon D1x, AF 28mm/f1.4D, AF 85mm/f1.4D, AFS 300mm/f4D
 
You can always tell a good tennis player.. thye are the ones who use the same old racket, tattered grip perhaps, and it's looking a bit "used". The ones wanting to be good are the gones who keep switching rackets every time they play against someone better using that gear and in end always have a new improved racket, and thier skill is still the same!

Had MB posted the images in a double blind setting ( ie no initial posting of the camera information, lens, apertures, camera used, etc ) you would have seen the brand bias go out the door. There is no doubt both of these cameras are capable of getting great shots, and the posted images are very close across the board considering no post processing was done except the minor USM.

No reason for D1X or 1D people to switch brands.. just enjoy what you have and continue to improve with your current tools! And next time MB make it really fun for a day or two and post the images as ad ouble blind test.. no brand info, etc.. just inmage 1a and 1b, 2a and 2b, etc, and make sure you switch up the a and the b's... in other words the "a" picture in each set is not always the Nikon, etc. It's a lot more work to do it this way but you will certainly make the voter work a little harder before casting their votes!

Thanks for taking the time to post! Was great fun and interesting to see the 2 camera's at work with lenses most of us can afford!
Movie Bear said:
Having two very fine cameras on hand, I thought it would be a shame
if I didn't line em' up and have a photo shootout! So, for you dear
readers that have been so patient with my new business direction
this week, I decided to take the day off and devote this gallery to
you!

The setup: Each camera was fitted with similar lenses (Canon 28-105
USM and Nikkor 24-120 AF). Both lenses are at a similar price- so
the comparison should be somewhat reasonable but certainly not
scientific. All pics were shot within the working range of the
Canon which is 28-105mm. Metering was set to "Evaluative" on both
cameras. Also, both cameras were in PROGRAM mode to enable each
camera design to make its' best decision on exposure. Both cameras
were set in high quality JPG mode with factory default settings for
parameters and such. Auto white balance was used-- and ISO's were
100 and 125 for the appropriate camera. No color corrections,
levels or curves were performed. Images were resized- then the
identical amount of very, very light USM were applied for the web.

The results? Well, I think you'll be surprised--- then surprised
again. Your opinions on your favortites are most welcome and you
can post them here or in the gallery below the pictures. The
intent is not to choose a winner (because there is none), but to
enjoy and evaluate the differences among 2 products that are
considered first rate.

My opinion? Of course I have those too. But I'll wait to see what
you come up with first and I'll post my reactions a little later...

The Gallery: http://www.pbase.com/moviebear/d1x_vs_d60

Have Fun!
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I'd love to see the same shoot-out, only having the images pass through the necessary ICC color profiles first.

There are very few pictures I use right out of the camera - some processing is necessary with any digital camera, just as with film cameras and the processing at the developer.

At least the ICC profiling would tend to output something equivalent, then the comparisons would be at noise level / quality, sharpness, etc.
 
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