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But the start of this branch of the thread was that the "victim" should have stood up and fought, rather than running to the press. I do have a fear of taking photos of people, especially of kids, as I have already once been "heavied" just for being at a sporting ground while a game was on. It was not nice, and the more I stood up to them the worse it got.

I actually feel that publicising this stuff, and showing the ridiculousness of the situation, is the best way of dealing with it.

Regarding whether one should be in fear, all the things you say may happen to you. But if you knew you had a really dodgy ticker or other high risk factor in your life, you may well be in fear.

If rootbeer gets into situations where he may be attacked, then he has a right to fear it.

I tend to simply stay away. Some people have no choice.

Nick
 
OldNick said:
Interesting when it's put that way. If I can stand there and see it,
why can't I see it again?

When I see some of the stuff shown on TV "in the public interest"
(love that term) where people who are in absolute misery or
degradation are harassed and publicised, I really wonder what harm a
photo can do, and what percentage of photos are misused.

I suppose there is the problem that the people in a public place (or
a private place where the public are allowed) expect to be seen by
people that are "decent" in their eyes, by and large, and to limit
that audience. The Web has allowed a lot more other people to see
them, without control or choice, for ever.

Is that last part the fear, rather than actual perversion?

Nick
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We have an inbuilt instinct to protect children. Many of us will un hesitatingly even protect other peoples children. This fear of pedophilia, I'm sure we can all agree, has some truth in it. There are pedophiles out there, and some of them are actually dangerous.

The Net didn't create our fear of pedophiles, but in addition to the all ready high level of irrationality, we have the added ingredidnt of, "They going to take a picture of my Suzy and put her head on another naked kid."

Why would they bother?

Aside from the fact that most of those who abuse children are members of the family, there is actually a child abuse industry - And they don't need to resort to juvenile tactics like the above.
So the average parent see's pedophiles under every tree.

I believe I've posted my theory that we are manufacturing pedophiles by this paranoia - Which is to say, we are lending "normalcy" to the urges of pedophiles by, on the one hand sexualising children in advertising and "beauty" (sic) pagents, and on the other banning our ability to see children as children. Both of which tells the disturbed that normal people lust after children.

Let me add to that. The current frenzy over pedophilia has given rise to pedophile support groups. Mostly men, who sit around and tell each other that they are a persecuted minority. They would use much the same arguments that I give, with of course a differnt spin. "If they ban Nan Golden work, so that they can't see it, aren't they admitting they also want to screw children?"

The net didn't cause that either. NAMBLA was around before the net, But NOT before we started banning childrens photography.

Dave
 
Ed Leys said:
Ed Leys20479 said:
At any rate, I WAS planning to vote from him, and I'll now vote for
either Nader or Barr.

Dave
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Dave,

Depending on how much you believe this sort of thing, and the various
citings, you might end up striking Nader off your list...

http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm
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Ed Leys20479 said:
Best,

Ed
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I believe very little - But yes, I have my problems with Nader... :)

But Ed, whomever I vote for will be a "protest" vote. By this I don't mean to say that I MUST have a candidate who agrees with every stinking thing I happen to believe. If I wanted such a candidate, obviously I would have to vote for myself. Counting in my dog, that would mean two votes...

Maybe I'll vote for Barr?

And I'll be honest here. I live in New York, and can make these kind of decisions KNOWING that it wont effect the election. Perhaps if I lived in another State, guilt might make me change my mind.

Still, I'm horrified by the percieved need for a moderate liberal like Obama to cater to the Republican Right by adapting so much of their views.

How did a liberal like Truman campaign? You really should check what he said in a similar situation in 1948

******************

Something happens to Republican leaders when they get control of the Government or even of a part of the Government-something that shocks and dismays many of their own loyal supporters.

Republicans in Washington have a habit of becoming curiously deaf to the voice of the people. They have a hard time hearing what the ordinary people of the country are saying. But they have no trouble at all hearing what Wall Street is saying. They are able to catch the slightest whisper from big business and the special interests.

When I talk to you here today about Republicans, I am talking about the party that gets most of its campaign funds from the special interests in Wall Street. I am talking to you about the party that gave us the phony boom of the 1920's, and the Hoover depression which followed it. I am talking to you about the party that gave us that Republican 80th Congress.

The Republican Party today is controlled by silent and cunning men who have a dangerous lust for power and privilege. The Republican Party is fundamentally the party of privilege. These men are now reaching out for control of the country and its resources.

I repeat: The most reactionary elements in the country today are backing the Republican Party in its effort to take over your Government on election day.
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Maybe Feingold or the late Paul Welstone spoke like the above. Obama? Sheesh.

Dave
 
Chato said:
Ed Leys said:
Chato said:
At any rate, I WAS planning to vote from him, and I'll now vote for
either Nader or Barr.

Dave
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Dave,

Depending on how much you believe this sort of thing, and the various
citings, you might end up striking Nader off your list...

http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm
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Chato said:
Best,

Ed
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I believe very little - But yes, I have my problems with Nader... :)

But Ed, whomever I vote for will be a "protest" vote. By this I don't
mean to say that I MUST have a candidate who agrees with every
stinking thing I happen to believe. If I wanted such a candidate,
obviously I would have to vote for myself. Counting in my dog, that
would mean two votes...

Maybe I'll vote for Barr?

And I'll be honest here. I live in New York, and can make these kind
of decisions KNOWING that it won't effect the election. Perhaps if I
lived in another State, guilt might make me change my mind.
Still, I'm horrified by the percieved need for a moderate liberal
like Obama to cater to the Republican Right by adapting so much of
their views.

How did a liberal like Truman campaign? You really should check what
he said in a similar situation in 1948

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Chato said:
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Maybe Feingold or the late Paul Welstone spoke like the above. Obama?
Sheesh.

Dave
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Dave,

As always, your points are excellent and well thought out.

Obama's moves trouble me too. But McCain's? And the role of the media? (Oh, thank you so much, Cokie Roberts, for pointing out that Hawaii, where Obama's grandmother lives, was too "exotic" a vacation destination for him.)

My home state, California, is in all probability a lock for Obama. I am not beyond making a symbolic vote (I voted for John Edwards in the primary even though he had dropped out a few days before.) But McCain? He's already there. Way over the edge. (How did he ever politically recover from his breezy stroll through the Baghdad market?)

Even though Obama is doing things I don't quite like, even though my vote for or against him will have no bearing on things, I personally believe he is the best shot we have at present to put things right. Probably would be far from 100% perfectly right in my view, but we've just tried eight years of 100% perfectly wrong.

With my highest regards,

Ed

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Chato said:
Rootbeer said:
borisboomboom said:
dave...i'm not aware of any study on the matter. here's what i do
know, that my my polling places will not ask me for any form of ID.
they merely ask me my name and address. given the above, fraud is
certainly possible, in particular in areas where low voter turnout is
the norm. but i'm opposed to this practice on principle alone. i
think it's un-American.
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The Georgia Thompson prosecution

In January 2006, under Biskupic's direction Ms. Georgia Thompson a
Wisconsin state procurement supervisor was prosecuted for corruption
charges related to a state travel contract. She was convicted and
sentenced to eighteen months. This conviction; however, was recently
thrown out by a appellate court panel in Chicago after 20 minutes of
oral argument. Jason Stein from the Wisconsin State Journal notes:

"In a stunning reversal, a federal court of appeals struck down a
state worker's fraud conviction that Wisconsin Republicans used in
efforts to paint Gov. Jim Doyle's administration as corrupt.
Attorneys on both sides of the case said the three-judge panel likely
overruled the trial jury's conviction of former state purchasing
officer Georgia Thompson within hours of oral arguments due to a
simple lack of evidence. The decision by the 7th Circuit Court of
Appeals in Chicago, which will explain the judges' reasoning, was not
immediately available. During oral arguments Thursday, one of the
members the three-judge panel said the charges against Thompson were
unfounded. "I have to say it strikes me that your evidence is beyond
thin", federal Appeals Judge Diane Wood told prosecutors. "I'm not
sure what your actual theory in this case is."[5]

[edit] Update on Appeals written opinion

In an April 20, 2007 article TPM muckraker reporter Paul Kiel
noted:"the federal appeals court released its written opinion on the
case. And it wasn't any more sparing than the verbal remarks (e.g.
that the evidence was "beyond thin") of the judges when they made the
ruling. The prosecution was based on a reading of the law by which
"simple violations of administrative rules [by bureaucrats] would
become crimes", the judges wrote. By that interpretation, "it is a
federal crime for any official in state or local government to take
account of political considerations when deciding how to spend public
money" -- a "preposterous" idea, they wrote."[6] Mr. Kiel also notes
that the House Judiciary Committee has now invited Biskupic to tell
his story to Congress. Gregory Stanford from the Milwaukee Journal
Sentinel frames the concern about the unknowns surrounding this case
and its importance for all citizens thusly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Biskupic
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Oh, and everyone knows that in IL, all the officials from the Mayor of Chicago to the State Judges aren't corrupt.. LOL!!

ACORN Workers Indicted For Alleged Voter Fraud
http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

You were saying something to the effect that vote fraud was B.S...?

Hmm..really..?

JP

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Rootbeer said:
Oh, and everyone knows that in IL, all the officials from the Mayor
of Chicago to the State Judges aren't corrupt.. LOL!!
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You are aware that that this was a Federal Court that questioned the prosecution? That in fact your hero was reprimanded for prosecuting someone that he in fact KNEW was innocent?

I guess you missed that... :(

Dave
Rootbeer said:
ACORN Workers Indicted For Alleged Voter Fraud
http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

You were saying something to the effect that vote fraud was B.S...?

Hmm..really..?

JP

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http://www.Myspace.com/JPphotographer
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jezsik said:
jezsik said:
Why should they carry weapons to defend the lives of
themselves and others
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Well, you have to admit that celebrity attracts certain types of
people and some of those folks could be dangerous. I have no idea why
Doyle thinks he's in any sort of danger. Don't most Governors have
police protection of some sort?
if corporate crooks
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Not only celebrities, but jewelers, photographers, gas station clerks, people who drive nice cars, people who are attractive, etc., attract criminals too!

Recently in Wisconsin, an unarmed University of Wisconsin Madison student Brittany Sue Zimmerman was attacked by someone who apparently wasn't armed with a gun. She was armed only with a cell phone, which she used to call 911, but 911 hung up on her, and the police never even investigated the call. In fact, it took her boyfriend to find her beaten to death corps the next day before police decided to investigate!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLp3u6Lnp_M

(BTW, the police have refused to release the call, not even allowing her parents to hear it in a closed door playing of the tape....you don't think Madison officials are trying to cover their collective asses, do you?)...

Here is a video of jewelery store workers, armed with a panic button, and a metal rod, who managed to fight off a crook who attempted to gouge out the eyes of the owners, in addition to robbing the store for 20 minutes!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr9zeXCsSyw

Yeah,....when seconds count, the cops are only 20 minutes away!

BTW, a few months ago, I placed two calls to 911 to report suspicious activity. The first call took 5 minutes for the police to arrive. the second took them 7 minutes to arrive!

I spoke to City of Madison Police officer & Public Relations person Joel Despain regarding the incident of Ms. Zimmerman. I asked him what he suggests that students of UW Madison do to protect themselves, since calling 911 didn't work for their latest murder victim. In fact, it is believed that there might be a serial killer who is in the area after another student about the same age and appearance was found dead several miles away in a field. I asked him if he thinks that students should buy hand guns to protect themselves with? He wouldn't answer me. I asked him if he would suggest that students should carry a can of legal pepper spray. He refused to answer. I said the words "oven cleaner" , and he became upset with me for asking him, the PR Officer those kids of questions... I then asked him what method of self defense does he use. He declined to answer. I asked him if he carries a gun. He refused to answer, but suggested that I talk to a karate instructor!

Sorry, but if I am a small woman, cornered by a serial killer armed with a knife in Madison, I wouldn't want to have to rely on just my karate skills save my life.

I'm sure you'd make a nice juicy target for a criminal!

JP -armed for Life.

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Chato said:
Rootbeer said:
Oh, and everyone knows that in IL, all the officials from the Mayor
of Chicago to the State Judges aren't corrupt.. LOL!!
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You are aware that that this was a Federal Court that questioned the
prosecution? That in fact your hero was reprimanded for prosecuting
someone that he in fact KNEW was innocent?

I guess you missed that... :(

Dave
Chato said:
ACORN Workers Indicted For Alleged Voter Fraud
http://www.rottenacorn.com/activityMap.html

You were saying something to the effect that vote fraud was B.S...?

Hmm..really..?

JP

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http://www.Myspace.com/JPphotographer
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Dave, trying to change the topic to something else I see.. Now how about responding to the ELECTION FRAUD that I pointed out that does exist, after you attempted to discredit it.

Vote Fraud is ReaL Dave, like it or not!

JP

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jezsik said:
jezsik wrote:

As far as taxes go, uh, how the heck do you think we're paying for
the occupation of Iraq? We're maxing out our credit cards and at some
point we're going to have to pay for the Republican war.
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jezsik said:
Radical left? Are you serious? Can you give me some examples of
radical left ways?
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Speaking of a "Republican War", & the "Radical Left", here is an example of some news I broke myself, that has already been featured in the local news:

http://www.pbase.com/john_paul/neighbors

I just love to show how "tolerant" liberals are of others who don't agree with their point of view.

Oh, and for the record, I'm not a Republican. I'll bet you and Dave weren't aware of that.. ;-)

JP

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Rootbeer said:
Dave, trying to change the topic to something else I see.. Now how
about responding to the ELECTION FRAUD that I pointed out that does
exist, after you attempted to discredit it.

Vote Fraud is ReaL Dave, like it or not!

JP
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I stuck to topic. You posted a link to a Federal Prosecutor, I in turn posted a link which shows that he was about to be fired for not prosecuting Democrats and voter fraud cases - "Suprisingly," after getting the WORD from the administration, he did both. In one case, actually knowingly sneding an inncent person to jail.
That's the only source you've been able to site.

There is no signifigant voter fraud going on in the US (although the possibility of fraud via computer hacked machines is More than a possibility).

So investigation after investigation comes up empty, and even the Supreme Court case that is being sited, in fact gives No Examples of Voter Fraud. So we have this claim about voter fraud, that involves laws that defacto disenfranchies a hundred thousand people to "stop" a mythical totally unproven claim.

I have no problem with catching and prosecuting fraudalent voters, like Ann Coulter, but one does no punish a hundred innocent people because you have one criminal.

Dave
 
Rootbeer said:
Rootbeer said:
jezsik wrote:

As far as taxes go, uh, how the heck do you think we're paying for
the occupation of Iraq? We're maxing out our credit cards and at some
point we're going to have to pay for the Republican war.
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Rootbeer said:
Radical left? Are you serious? Can you give me some examples of
radical left ways?
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Speaking of a "Republican War", & the "Radical Left", here is an
example of some news I broke myself, that has already been featured
in the local news:

http://www.pbase.com/john_paul/neighbors

I just love to show how "tolerant" liberals are of others who don't
agree with their point of view.

Oh, and for the record, I'm not a Republican. I'll bet you and Dave
weren't aware of that.. ;-)
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You do realise, that although whoever painted this lettering is a ****, the author of the article is a much BIGGER one.

" Although I don't know for certain if the Democrat activist fella tagged the sidewalk in front of the neighbor who I assume is a Republican, it sure looks that way to me considering how he choses to express himself. If that is the case, then I see no reason to publicly "out" your next-door neighbor by vandalizing their sidewalk, considering they make an effort to keep their property looking nice. "

Now how the hell does he know that? Yet he sites this almost as proof?

Shessh!
Rootbeer said:
Oh, and for the record, I'm not a Republican. I'll bet you and Dave
weren't aware of that.. ;-)
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Oh and for the record, I'm not a Democrat. I'll bet you didn't know that? :)

Dave
 
Chato said:
Rootbeer said:
Chato said:
jezsik wrote:

As far as taxes go, uh, how the heck do you think we're paying for
the occupation of Iraq? We're maxing out our credit cards and at some
point we're going to have to pay for the Republican war.
Click to expand...
Chato said:
Radical left? Are you serious? Can you give me some examples of
radical left ways?
Click to expand...
Speaking of a "Republican War", & the "Radical Left", here is an
example of some news I broke myself, that has already been featured
in the local news:

http://www.pbase.com/john_paul/neighbors

I just love to show how "tolerant" liberals are of others who don't
agree with their point of view.

Oh, and for the record, I'm not a Republican. I'll bet you and Dave
weren't aware of that.. ;-)
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You do realise, that although whoever painted this lettering is a
****, the author of the article is a much BIGGER one.

" Although I don't know for certain if the Democrat activist fella
tagged the sidewalk in front of the neighbor who I assume is a
Republican, it sure looks that way to me considering how he choses to
express himself. If that is the case, then I see no reason to
publicly "out" your next-door neighbor by vandalizing their sidewalk,
considering they make an effort to keep their property looking nice. "

Now how the hell does he know that? Yet he sites this almost as proof?

Shessh!
Chato said:
Oh, and for the record, I'm not a Republican. I'll bet you and Dave
weren't aware of that.. ;-)
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Oh and for the record, I'm not a Democrat. I'll bet you didn't know
that? :)

Dave
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Dave, Have you ever read the editorial page of a newspaper Dave..? (Pick ANY newspaper Dave!) By the sound of your reply, I highly doubt it!

"Although I don't know for certain" does NOT say "He is the guy who did it".

....What, you don't know the difference..?? OMG Dave, that really speaks volumes about you, let alone saying that my simple report makes me a "much BIGGER ****" than the guy who might have vandalized his neighbor's sidewalk, in order to "out" him for the way he votes!

What's the matter Dave, was my example too good? Or too much for you to handle in a cordial manor on a public message board?

Furthermore, I begin my statements by saying:

"I assume", "If that is the case", " then I see no reason"; are NOT conclusionary statements! I am entitled to my OPINION in my blog, which is clearly stated by the way I wrote it!

Dave, you are even aware of the fact that I didn't say that I had proof by saying:

"Yet he sites this almost as proof".

Shame on you Dave for flaming me here on a public message board and for calling me names!

BTW Dave, if you read further, you would have seen that there was an arrest made. I named the person who the police named in their investigation( like any credible news source does)..according to the arresting police officer who I interviewed. He told me that he was able to get a voluntary search of his property, and a statement from him after the officer found a can of spray paint inside of his home, that appeared to match the color of the spray paint found on his neighbor's sidewalk, in addition to offering up a possible motive! It's all in my report, along with the pictures.

Do I know for certain who did it..? No, but it is not against the law to speculate Dave! I thought you were knowledgeable enough to know that! I have an opinion of what might have happened, I have the right to express myself.

Let me guess, I assume you still feel that I am a "much bigger ****" than the person who vandalized that length of city property directly in front of the house of a neighbor who might vote Republican, right?

JP

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Chato said:
Rootbeer said:
Dave, trying to change the topic to something else I see.. Now how
about responding to the ELECTION FRAUD that I pointed out that does
exist, after you attempted to discredit it.

Vote Fraud is ReaL Dave, like it or not!

JP
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I stuck to topic. You posted a link to a Federal Prosecutor, I in
turn posted a link which shows that he was about to be fired for not
prosecuting Democrats and voter fraud cases - "Suprisingly," after
getting the WORD from the administration, he did both. In one case,
actually knowingly sneding an inncent person to jail.
That's the only source you've been able to site.

There is no signifigant voter fraud going on in the US (although the
possibility of fraud via computer hacked machines is More than a
possibility).
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Dave, I posted a link to an article from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel's own website. I don't know where you came up with another one of your "facts"..

Here it is again:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=324933

JP

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Rootbeer said:
Chato said:
Rootbeer said:
Rootbeer said:
jezsik wrote:

As far as taxes go, uh, how the heck do you think we're paying for
the occupation of Iraq? We're maxing out our credit cards and at some
point we're going to have to pay for the Republican war.
Click to expand...
Rootbeer said:
Radical left? Are you serious? Can you give me some examples of
radical left ways?
Click to expand...
Speaking of a "Republican War", & the "Radical Left", here is an
example of some news I broke myself, that has already been featured
in the local news:

http://www.pbase.com/john_paul/neighbors

I just love to show how "tolerant" liberals are of others who don't
agree with their point of view.

Oh, and for the record, I'm not a Republican. I'll bet you and Dave
weren't aware of that.. ;-)
Click to expand...
You do realise, that although whoever painted this lettering is a
****, the author of the article is a much BIGGER one.

" Although I don't know for certain if the Democrat activist fella
tagged the sidewalk in front of the neighbor who I assume is a
Republican, it sure looks that way to me considering how he choses to
express himself. If that is the case, then I see no reason to
publicly "out" your next-door neighbor by vandalizing their sidewalk,
considering they make an effort to keep their property looking nice. "

Now how the hell does he know that? Yet he sites this almost as proof?

Shessh!
Rootbeer said:
Oh, and for the record, I'm not a Republican. I'll bet you and Dave
weren't aware of that.. ;-)
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Oh and for the record, I'm not a Democrat. I'll bet you didn't know
that? :)

Dave
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Dave, Have you ever read the editorial page of a newspaper Dave..?
(Pick ANY newspaper Dave!) By the sound of your reply, I highly doubt
it!

"Although I don't know for certain" does NOT say "He is the guy who
did it".

....What, you don't know the difference..?? OMG Dave, that really
speaks volumes about you, let alone saying that my simple report
makes me a "much BIGGER ****" than the guy who might have vandalized
his neighbor's sidewalk, in order to "out" him for the way he votes!

What's the matter Dave, was my example too good? Or too much for you
to handle in a cordial manor on a public message board?

Furthermore, I begin my statements by saying:

"I assume", "If that is the case", " then I see no reason"; are NOT
conclusionary statements! I am entitled to my OPINION in my blog,
which is clearly stated by the way I wrote it!

Dave, you are even aware of the fact that I didn't say that I had
proof by saying:

"Yet he sites this almost as proof".

Shame on you Dave for flaming me here on a public message board and
for calling me names!

BTW Dave, if you read further, you would have seen that there was an
arrest made. I named the person who the police named in their
investigation( like any credible news source does)..according to the
arresting police officer who I interviewed. He told me that he was
able to get a voluntary search of his property, and a statement from
him after the officer found a can of spray paint inside of his home,
that appeared to match the color of the spray paint found on his
neighbor's sidewalk, in addition to offering up a possible motive!
It's all in my report, along with the pictures.

Do I know for certain who did it..? No, but it is not against the law
to speculate Dave! I thought you were knowledgeable enough to know
that! I have an opinion of what might have happened, I have the right
to express myself.

Let me guess, I assume you still feel that I am a "much bigger ****"
than the person who vandalized that length of city property directly
in front of the house of a neighbor who might vote Republican, right?

JP

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BTW Dave, I'm considering naming you, in addition to quoting your words regarding what you just wrote, and adding that to my blog. I believe others would find your comments very interesting to read too.

JP

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Rootbeer said:
Dave, I posted a link to an article from the Milwaukee Journal
Sentinel's own website. I don't know where you came up with another
one of your "facts"..

Here it is again:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=324933

JP
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I am pointing out that anything that comes out of Biskupics office is suspect. And I posted this link.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_M._Biskupic

In fact, here is Biskupics statment on voter fraud, after the $hit hit the fan, and the while prosecution unraveled.

"Biskupic also played down the voter-fraud complaints, saying that he and a local Democratic prosecutor jointly investigated such allegations in 2005 and found only scattered evidence of wrongdoing. "We tried to address them in a serious and detailed way, but in a way that did not impact any election", he said. "I think we did that."[11]"

Quoting a newspaper article, written in 2005, based in his earlier statements is simply blowing in the wind.

You still don't get it? He's going to be lucky if HE stays out of jail.

Dave
 
I have no idea what you are talking about.

Were you the author of that blog? If so, you should be ashamed of yourself. If you were not, then none of my comments were directed at you.

You wont catch me "speculating" that Republicans caused the murder of that Democrat in Arkansaw, even though I have a right to so speculate.
Stupid vandalism is not a monopoly of anyone.

I can sum up that blog by saying, "The neighbor is a Democrat, and hated free speech, so he did it, and it don matter if he didn't do it, cause he's a democrat, and democrats do dat, so there. If I can find a democrat who did it, den day all wil do dat"

Dave
 
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