How often do you gel your flashes?

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I just wanted to get a quick show of hands on who all gels their flashes and why?

I'll start yes I gel my Qflash with a 1/8th or 1/2 C.T.O. gel all the time when I'm shooting to warm up the colors in skin tones.
 
I gel the background flash for portraiture 95% of the time. For tabletop I use background gels about 50% and have experimented with mixed colors. So far I only gel subject lighting for special effects, such as colored reflections off of a disk drive's platter, etc.

-Gene L.
http://ttl-biz.com
 
I used to not do it as much but I now gel my flash with a full CTO whenever I need to shoot indoors with tungsten light. It makes WB way easier to correct...
 
...you should make a permanent correction on your camera.
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RDKirk
'TANSTAAFL: The only unbreakable rule in photography.'
 
That doesn't balance color from different light sources. Shoot with an ungelled flash under tungsten light, dragging the shutter, and set WB to tungsten, and your flash-lit subjects turn out blue. Yuck.

I do a lot of conference work in hotels and find that a 1/4 CTO on my flash and 3200-4500K in-camera WB setting gives me slightly warm subjects and slightly warmer backgrounds. In some venues, I need to add a 1/8 or 1/4 green as well. I HATE those "daylight" flourescents, especially when they're mixed with tungsten. Impossible. Under those circumstances, when I'm shooting an area up to 20'x20', I eliminate the ambient with a fast shutter and light the space with a massive bounce blast from my handle-mount Metz. I love my big Metzes.
...you should make a permanent correction on your camera.
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RDKirk
'TANSTAAFL: The only unbreakable rule in photography.'
--
'No matter where you go, there you are.'
 
yes I gel my Qflash with a 1/8th or 1/2 C.T.O. gel all the time
If he's gelling one particular light source ALL the time, he might as well set his camera up for that permanently.

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RDKirk
'TANSTAAFL: The only unbreakable rule in photography.'
 
If the OP wants to affect the ambient as well, then in camera WB would work, but if there is a need for ambient and flash, then the flash needs to be gelled on its own.
 
I don't think the OP is "gelling one particular light source ALL the time", as you assume. He's always using gels, but the light sources undoubtedly vary, which is why he's choosing between 1/8 and 1/2 CTO depending on circumstances.

My point was that a gel allows a closer balance of the color temperature of the flash and ambient light sources, whereas a WB setting in the camera affects the color temperature of the whole scene. Setting WB will not make the color temp of the flash closer to that of the ambient light. If the color temps of the flash and ambient light are very different, one or the other is not going to look right, no matter what WB setting one uses.

I like to have my subjects about 300K warmer than neutral, and my ambient indoor lighting about 1000-1500K warmer than neutral. This way, the subjects look natural and appealing, and the the background looks tungsten-lit without being garish orange.

Shooting without gel under tungsten light, if I simply adjust WB to make the subjects look natural, i.e. around 5000K, the background looks orange. If I set WB to neutralize the ambient, the flash-lit subjects look ghoulish blue. By putting a 1/4 or 1/2 CTO on the flash, I can set WB to around 3800K to make the subject look natural and the background still warm but less orange than otherwise.

Since indoor lighting varies from place to place and I often vary my flash/ambient ratio, I often have to tweak the gel/WB combo, using 1/4 or 1/2 CTO and setting WB in a range between 2800K and 4500K.

WB alone can correct one light source or another, but only one. Where lighting is mixed, a gel helps. And, even with gel, there's no one WB setting than can optimally correct all situations.
yes I gel my Qflash with a 1/8th or 1/2 C.T.O. gel all the time
If he's gelling one particular light source ALL the time, he might as
well set his camera up for that permanently.

--
RDKirk
'TANSTAAFL: The only unbreakable rule in photography.'
--
'No matter where you go, there you are.'
 
Sorry, I misread your post the first time and went off on a tangent. Now I see that the OP was, indeed, talking about color and not balance.
yes I gel my Qflash with a 1/8th or 1/2 C.T.O. gel all the time
If he's gelling one particular light source ALL the time, he might as
well set his camera up for that permanently.

--
RDKirk
'TANSTAAFL: The only unbreakable rule in photography.'
--
'No matter where you go, there you are.'
 
Gelled lights from above and below. This one makes use of the disk's reflective surface.



Gelled lights bounced off of a crinkled silver reflector.



Gel on background light transmitted through the translucent shooting table.



Gels on background from two light sources.



Typical use of background gel for portraiture.



-Gene L.
http://ttl-biz.com
 
I just started so I cannot contribute much. I do it to get the white balance correct to speed up post processing. I'm going to start gelling every shot I do indoors.
 

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