S30 statistics on dead/hot pixels please

I am seriously considering buying the S30 abroad due to very long deliverytimes here in DK.
Therefore it would be a little more difficult for me to return/replace it.

So I would appreciate all Your input regarding defects that would suggest a replacement.
What have You experienced... ?

Also if You didn't experience any faults too, please let me know too so I can add up some kind of statistic.

Thanks
And best regards.
JJ

I bought an S30 at the end of April. I exchanged it because it had 5 hot pixels. I've found no defects with the replacement. I doubt this is important, but the first, defective camera had the old firmware...the second shipped with the updated firmware. If you buy locally, you will have less hassle/stress if you need to return it.

I've had no regrets with my S30 purchace. However, if I were buying today, I'd prob. take a look at the Olymput 720 UZ in addition to the Canons. It weighs the same as the S30 and has an 8x zoom. Just food for thought.

Jens Jacob Jensen said:

I am seriously considering buying the S30 abroad due to very long
deliverytimes here in DK.
Therefore it would be a little more difficult for me to
return/replace it.
So I would appreciate all Your input regarding defects that would
suggest a replacement.
What have You experienced... ?
Also if You didn't experience any faults too, please let me know
too so I can add up some kind of statistic.

Thanks
And best regards.
JJ

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Bought mine in May, no hot pixels, no dead pixels. Updated Firmware

If I had to make the choice again, I'd still pick the S30. If I could buy a second camera, I would get the Olympus 2100 UZ, or another camera with a 10x zoom b/c the olympus doesn't have a hotshoe I believe.

mango said:

I've had no regrets with my S30 purchace. However, if I were
buying today, I'd prob. take a look at the Olymput 720 UZ in
addition to the Canons. It weighs the same as the S30 and has an
8x zoom. Just food for thought.

Jens Jacob Jensen said:

I am seriously considering buying the S30 abroad due to very long
deliverytimes here in DK.
Therefore it would be a little more difficult for me to
return/replace it.
So I would appreciate all Your input regarding defects that would
suggest a replacement.
What have You experienced... ?
Also if You didn't experience any faults too, please let me know
too so I can add up some kind of statistic.

Thanks
And best regards.
JJ

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http://www.pbase.com/mango

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I bought mine last week and did have 1 hot pixel, though I didnt know any better and returned it thinking it was a dead pixel. Hot pixels seem to be very common and occur with all cameras. I'd just suggest that you be aware that you could very easily be sent an s30 with hot pixels or that will develop hot pixels in the future. Or, you can just luck out and get a camera with one of the better CCD's.. In my opinion it's all a risk and there is the possibility it will be bad enough for you to consider returning it.

Just bought my S30 from Adorama a couple weeks ago, and have not noticed a single hot pixel or dead pixel at all. Everything is working great.

Joe
somedaynever.com

Jens Jacob Jensen said:

I am seriously considering buying the S30 abroad due to very long
deliverytimes here in DK.
Therefore it would be a little more difficult for me to
return/replace it.
So I would appreciate all Your input regarding defects that would
suggest a replacement.
What have You experienced... ?
Also if You didn't experience any faults too, please let me know
too so I can add up some kind of statistic.

Thanks
And best regards.
JJ

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I also have not noticed a single hot pixel or dead pixel at all. Everything is working great.

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RSStockdale
a happy S30 owner

Rather than repeat my story of woe.... check it out here...

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1010&message=2884768

Not sure if there are any local shops that carry the S30 near you, but if there are and if the price difference isn't too much I suggest you seek them out. Make sure you have a good understanding of their return policy. If this isn't possible you can ask a good on-line camera shop with a solid reputation if they will check your camera over before shipping. Tell them what possible problems they should be looking for (pixel issues, etc.). I'm sure a good full service camera shop will understand your concerns and be happy to do this at your request. I almost had pictureline.com do this for me on a black G2 (they were very willing to accomodate my request saying they would use a spare charged battery and their own CF card to perform the tests..... if that was Ok by me). I would have taken them up on this offer had I not decided to purchase an S40 at a local shop. Still, I made sure I ran my S40 through the paces before the purchase was completed.

Good luck.

Jeff

New S40 owner and now Canon Forum addict

Jens Jacob Jensen said:

I am seriously considering buying the S30 abroad due to very long
deliverytimes here in DK.
Therefore it would be a little more difficult for me to
return/replace it.
So I would appreciate all Your input regarding defects that would
suggest a replacement.
What have You experienced... ?
Also if You didn't experience any faults too, please let me know
too so I can add up some kind of statistic.

Thanks
And best regards.
JJ

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I've had my S30 for nearly 3 months and have been extremely happy with it. I've never noticed any hot or dead pixals in the photos I've taken even when looking at them at fairly high resolution on my CRT.

This thread got me curious so I did a quick test. One shot with flash in front of a white surface (strongly overexposed) and one with the lens covered. Both at highest resolution.

Then on my computer I looked at both images at 2x resolution (every pixal in the image a 2x2 pixal on the screen) and scrolled over the whole image. The result being no dead pixals (no dark spots on the overexposed image) and three faint 'hot' pixals (light spots on the dark image).

While my service agreement (I bought the camera at Best Buy with a 4 year coverage) will no doubt allow me to return this for a new S30, why should I? These 'hot' pixals are very faint on a pure black image and will never be a problem on regular photographs.

But, now that you've got me to check, I'll know that the problem is lurking there - hidden in my images - no one but me to know - but always nagging...

Jim,

The first G2 I returned had a much more pronounced pixel problem. I took a picture of my kitchen using natural lighting (no flash). Looking at the picture I noticed a shiney dime on the pine floor next to the dining room table. So excited at my find (just joking... I'm not THAT cheap) I looked at the picture a little closer. You guessed it... a hot pixel. Took some more test shots and this little beacon of light was in every one. This was not something I could stand for (not in a $700+ camera). Your problem doesn't sound anywhere near as obvious. You should really do a search on this subject and read what the experts say. The results of the tests I suggested would show very obvious flaws. Your results may be the affect of improper testing. If you really want to be sure (maybe you don't ?) you should perform the more refined tests outlined by the pros.

Jeff

Very new S40 owner

Jim Vincent said:

I've had my S30 for nearly 3 months and have been extremely happy
with it. I've never noticed any hot or dead pixals in the photos
I've taken even when looking at them at fairly high resolution on
my CRT.

This thread got me curious so I did a quick test. One shot with
flash in front of a white surface (strongly overexposed) and one
with the lens covered. Both at highest resolution.

Then on my computer I looked at both images at 2x resolution (every
pixal in the image a 2x2 pixal on the screen) and scrolled over the
whole image. The result being no dead pixals (no dark spots on the
overexposed image) and three faint 'hot' pixals (light spots on the
dark image).

While my service agreement (I bought the camera at Best Buy with a
4 year coverage) will no doubt allow me to return this for a new
S30, why should I? These 'hot' pixals are very faint on a pure
black image and will never be a problem on regular photographs.

But, now that you've got me to check, I'll know that the problem is
lurking there - hidden in my images - no one but me to know - but
always nagging...

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Jeff:

I am extremely happy with my S30 and the 'warm' pixals I discovered in no way detract from this. I was simply joking about being bothered by it.

Jim

JeffreyC said:

The first G2 I returned had a much more pronounced pixel problem. I
took a picture of my kitchen using natural lighting (no flash).
Looking at the picture I noticed a shiney dime on the pine floor
next to the dining room table. So excited at my find (just
joking... I'm not THAT cheap) I looked at the picture a little
closer. You guessed it... a hot pixel. Took some more test shots
and this little beacon of light was in every one. This was not
something I could stand for (not in a $700+ camera). Your problem
doesn't sound anywhere near as obvious. You should really do a
search on this subject and read what the experts say. The results
of the tests I suggested would show very obvious flaws. Your
results may be the affect of improper testing. If you really want
to be sure (maybe you don't ?) you should perform the more refined
tests outlined by the pros.

Jeff

Very new S40 owner

Jim Vincent said:

I've had my S30 for nearly 3 months and have been extremely happy
with it. I've never noticed any hot or dead pixals in the photos
I've taken even when looking at them at fairly high resolution on
my CRT.

This thread got me curious so I did a quick test. One shot with
flash in front of a white surface (strongly overexposed) and one
with the lens covered. Both at highest resolution.

Then on my computer I looked at both images at 2x resolution (every
pixal in the image a 2x2 pixal on the screen) and scrolled over the
whole image. The result being no dead pixals (no dark spots on the
overexposed image) and three faint 'hot' pixals (light spots on the
dark image).

While my service agreement (I bought the camera at Best Buy with a
4 year coverage) will no doubt allow me to return this for a new
S30, why should I? These 'hot' pixals are very faint on a pure
black image and will never be a problem on regular photographs.

But, now that you've got me to check, I'll know that the problem is
lurking there - hidden in my images - no one but me to know - but
always nagging...

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In the end being content with what you have is ALL that matters.

I have to admit to being more than a little anal. Case in point.... I read about the way the plastic that covers the S40 LCD could scratch. I tried one of those PDA screen protectors and although it protected the screen it just didn't look as good as with it off. So I sent for one of the da' Products screen protectors. The one that was supposed to fit the S40 didn't quite fit right because the LCD has a very small border on the right side where the depth of the back changes. I also found the protector itself would scratch if not properly cared for. So off it came. At this point I was so frustrated by my "analness" that I told myself "It is what it is. It's not like the LCD on the G2 which has that great coating and "flip-ability". It can and will scratch and I'll just have get over it when that happens. Scratches on the LCD won't prevent me from taking and printing GREAT pictures. If it gets so bad that I can't see the images I'll order new piece of plastic from Canon".

Sounds like you don't let little insignificant things bother you. I'm getting better, but I'm still jealous.

Jeff

Jim Vincent said:

I am extremely happy with my S30 and the 'warm' pixals I discovered
in no way detract from this. I was simply joking about being
bothered by it.

Jim

JeffreyC said:

The first G2 I returned had a much more pronounced pixel problem. I
took a picture of my kitchen using natural lighting (no flash).
Looking at the picture I noticed a shiney dime on the pine floor
next to the dining room table. So excited at my find (just
joking... I'm not THAT cheap) I looked at the picture a little
closer. You guessed it... a hot pixel. Took some more test shots
and this little beacon of light was in every one. This was not
something I could stand for (not in a $700+ camera). Your problem
doesn't sound anywhere near as obvious. You should really do a
search on this subject and read what the experts say. The results
of the tests I suggested would show very obvious flaws. Your
results may be the affect of improper testing. If you really want
to be sure (maybe you don't ?) you should perform the more refined
tests outlined by the pros.

Jeff

Very new S40 owner

Jim Vincent said:

I've had my S30 for nearly 3 months and have been extremely happy
with it. I've never noticed any hot or dead pixals in the photos
I've taken even when looking at them at fairly high resolution on
my CRT.

This thread got me curious so I did a quick test. One shot with
flash in front of a white surface (strongly overexposed) and one
with the lens covered. Both at highest resolution.

Then on my computer I looked at both images at 2x resolution (every
pixal in the image a 2x2 pixal on the screen) and scrolled over the
whole image. The result being no dead pixals (no dark spots on the
overexposed image) and three faint 'hot' pixals (light spots on the
dark image).

While my service agreement (I bought the camera at Best Buy with a
4 year coverage) will no doubt allow me to return this for a new
S30, why should I? These 'hot' pixals are very faint on a pure
black image and will never be a problem on regular photographs.

But, now that you've got me to check, I'll know that the problem is
lurking there - hidden in my images - no one but me to know - but
always nagging...

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