New ! 5700 vs 7i vs 602 vs 707 comparison ...

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If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
 
Who knows when Phil Askey's review of the CP5700 is going to come up... but I might have time to learn Chinese.... :-)
If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
 
The whites of the CP5700 look the best... that would be good news.
If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
 
I downloaded all 4 pictures of the house from the 4 brands. The least noise would be the Nikon and the most noise would be the Minolta. Very impressive for a beta version!!!!
If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
 
Yes indeedy..I am very pleased Hariette..However, one thing bothers me. The full 8x zoom looks like camera shake..picture is blurry and/or out of focus. The camera should really have the IS feature....other than that things are looking quite good.

BTW Hariette..I got soooo lonesome....I bought back my 5000 on ebay..I just couldn't take it any longer..so it looks like I just may end up with both..which I think was the orginal plan..us women you say...lol ^

Carmen

If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
 
You sold your CP5K and bought it back? Wow what a roller coaster! Very brave of you I have to say :-) --- Hang on to it (to the CP5K) it is probably the last of its kind.... and for the US woman thing... it is part of their charm ;)

I have to say that the samples look good... barely any noise, great whites and as far as CA, well hard to find any!!! and still a beta version! also I suspect nikon is leaking the samples and their publications because they look darn so good !!!!

Or as far as the IS thing.... I am not too concern, I don't care much about taking birds or squirrels... My guess is the wire fence on a baseball field will be enough to stabilize whatever action shot I'll be taking... or I'll use my knee on the soccer field or the beach, or I'll stop drinking to get the steadiest hand possible, I will ask the captain to stop the boat so i can take a few long distance shots of the shark approaching us... or ... I'm not sure I'll use 8X that often.... :-) Cheers Carmen!
BTW Hariette..I got soooo lonesome....I bought back my 5000 on
ebay..I just couldn't take it any longer..so it looks like I just
may end up with both..which I think was the orginal plan..us women
you say...lol ^

Carmen

If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
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These samples show EXIF software v583-73b but the samples from this link http://myalbum.ne.jp/cgi-bin/a_menu?id=fa848556 show EXIF software E5700v1.0 which would mean that the samples are from a production camera. If true Phil might very well be ready for a review :-)
If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
 
Great minds really do think a like..referring to your last paragraph..lol

C
Or as far as the IS thing.... I am not too concern, I don't care
much about taking birds or squirrels... My guess is the wire fence
on a baseball field will be enough to stabilize whatever action
shot I'll be taking... or I'll use my knee on the soccer field or
the beach, or I'll stop drinking to get the steadiest hand
possible, I will ask the captain to stop the boat so i can take a
few long distance shots of the shark approaching us... or ... I'm
not sure I'll use 8X that often.... :-) Cheers Carmen!
BTW Hariette..I got soooo lonesome....I bought back my 5000 on
ebay..I just couldn't take it any longer..so it looks like I just
may end up with both..which I think was the orginal plan..us women
you say...lol ^

Carmen

If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
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that is pretty darn halarious....

"World. Soccer. In... Leaves. After, also namely. To 6/21. Hits half... Brazil, English standard. Germany. With Spain. Four.. Also. Performs the crown.... Has the partner, "

iether horribly bad poetry, or really a really garbled soccer announcer. lol... good times...

the zoom on that 5700! that will be one of the funnest things ive played with in a long time.

the pictures of the... im not sure what type of building because im not familiar with chinese archetecture, show me the good qualities of having a 28mm camera, and it also shows the extremely nice color of the f707.

if only the 5700 had the wide angle of the 5000... beggers cant be choosers, and ill be darned if nikon hasnt (by the spec sheets) quelled any of my desired changes to the 5000.

as much as i love the features of the dimage 7i (the closest competetor in for my money), im afraid that i would be crying after an hour of use without the vari-angle lcd. like trying to watch three different shows at once, but without the remote. it can be done, you just have to be able to move quickly, be willing to sit in a crouching position for a long period of time.... that was confusing.... anyways....

im kinda left wondering what the heck happened with the finpix s602's macro shot....

the 5700 looks to be a fun fun fun camera.
 
BTW Hariette..I got soooo lonesome....I bought back my 5000 on
ebay..I just couldn't take it any longer..so it looks like I just
may end up with both..which I think was the orginal plan..us women
you say...lol ^

Carmen

If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
Carmen,

Glad to hear you have your 5000 back! It may not have the macho appeal of the 8x zoom 5700 but offers the all-important wide-angle niche and is more compact. It's the one you'll bring with you if you can only pack one. Also, I didn't much care for the EVF of the 5700 today--if seems like you are using a video camera. The 5700 looks more like one too. I'm not knocking it, though, and if you can afford both go for it!

Cheers,

Peter
--
CP 900, 950, 990 and now the 5000; TC-E2; WC-E68
FE2 w/ many Nikkor lenses (but getting dusty)[/S]
 
If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm
People asked for translation. Here it is as a service, :-). However, I do not translate everything. In fact, I will remove some non-essential blah-blah-blah.

Evaluation (after the first set of building photos):

Nikon's 8X lens beats eveyone in this comparison. The next one is Minolta's 7X; however, its 28mm wide angle covers a wider area than others' 35mm. S602 and 707 perform well. The image quality of both seems sharp with optical and digital zoom. However, due to the fact that 707 is an earlier product, it zooming capability is the last and the metering system tends to underexpose. The zooming capability of 5700 is very good; however, since there is no IS (or VR -- in Nikon's terminology) assistance, only BBS can be use to select the best results.

Evaluation: Exposure Bracket

Evaluation: Close-Up

According to its spec, the minimum working distance is 3cm for the 5700,

and color and focuing are good (NOTE: I don't know the meaning and the intention of original writing). FinePix can even reach 1cm, which is the best of the four. However, S602 tends to overexposure when lacking fill light (NOTE: I don't understand this). F707 frunctuates greatly. We cannot obtain the desired results in a cloudy day even though F707 may also reach 2cm. A series of shots shows underexposure and incorrect tonality, which is a big surprise. Minolta's D7i, judged by its spec (25cm), is the weakest. However, our testing shows that it is better than that of the F707, which is also a big surprise.

Evaluation: Continuous Shooting Mode

We look at two factors: burst rate and buffer size. In terms of burst rate, S602's 5fps is the best, followed by 5700's and F707's 3fps, and Minolta's 2fps. On the other hand, 7i permits to take 6 shots before the buffer is full. This is followed by S602 (5 shots) and 5700 and F707 (3 shots).

I will omit the next three paragraphs.
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CK's comments:

The digital zoom testing does not make sense because the four cameras are not on the same ground. How can you compare a 4X digital zoom against a 1.4x digital zoom?

We do not know the aperture, shutter speed and ISO settings (and even white balance) when these images were taken. Were they taken with exactly the SAME setting? If the answer is no, sharpness comparison becomes meaningless because of the impact of aperture on depth of field. It the answer is yes, then the meter systems of these cameras must have some serious caliberation system, because the exposure difference is significant. It appears to me that the images on the second column taken with 5700 and D7i are a little overexposed. In fact, I suspect that the images on the first column were not exposed properly. Similar argument can be applied to the bracket test shots. However, it seems 5700 and D7i perform better than the other two. Note that I know the environment and its tonality well.

In summary, the author did some useful work. However, I would like to see a more rigorous testing.

CK
http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam
 
People asked for translation. Here it is as a service, :-).
However, I do not translate everything. In fact, I will remove
some non-essential blah-blah-blah.

Evaluation (after the first set of building photos):

Nikon's 8X lens beats eveyone in this comparison. The next one is
Minolta's 7X; however, its 28mm wide angle covers a wider area than
others' 35mm. S602 and 707 perform well. The image quality of
both seems sharp with optical and digital zoom. However, due to
the fact that 707 is an earlier product, it zooming capability is
the last and the metering system tends to underexpose. The zooming
capability of 5700 is very good; however, since there is no IS (or
VR -- in Nikon's terminology) assistance, only BBS can be use to
select the best results.

Evaluation: Exposure Bracket

Evaluation: Close-Up

According to its spec, the minimum working distance is 3cm for the
5700,
and color and focuing are good (NOTE: I don't know the meaning and
the intention of original writing). FinePix can even reach 1cm,
which is the best of the four. However, S602 tends to overexposure
when lacking fill light (NOTE: I don't understand this). F707
frunctuates greatly. We cannot obtain the desired results in a
cloudy day even though F707 may also reach 2cm. A series of shots
shows underexposure and incorrect tonality, which is a big
surprise. Minolta's D7i, judged by its spec (25cm), is the
weakest. However, our testing shows that it is better than that of
the F707, which is also a big surprise.

Evaluation: Continuous Shooting Mode

We look at two factors: burst rate and buffer size. In terms of
burst rate, S602's 5fps is the best, followed by 5700's and F707's
3fps, and Minolta's 2fps. On the other hand, 7i permits to take 6
shots before the buffer is full. This is followed by S602 (5
shots) and 5700 and F707 (3 shots).

I will omit the next three paragraphs.
-------------------------------------------------------
CK's comments:

The digital zoom testing does not make sense because the four
cameras are not on the same ground. How can you compare a 4X
digital zoom against a 1.4x digital zoom?

We do not know the aperture, shutter speed and ISO settings (and
even white balance) when these images were taken. Were they taken
with exactly the SAME setting? If the answer is no, sharpness
comparison becomes meaningless because of the impact of aperture on
depth of field. It the answer is yes, then the meter systems of
these cameras must have some serious caliberation system, because
the exposure difference is significant. It appears to me that the
images on the second column taken with 5700 and D7i are a little
overexposed. In fact, I suspect that the images on the first
column were not exposed properly. Similar argument can be
applied to the bracket test shots. However, it seems 5700 and D7i
perform better than the other two. Note that I know the
environment and its tonality well.

In summary, the author did some useful work. However, I would like
to see a more rigorous testing.

CK
http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/DigiCam
 
shows underexposure and incorrect tonality, which is a big
surprise. Minolta's D7i, judged by its spec (25cm), is the
weakest. However, our testing shows that it is better than that of
the F707, which is also a big surprise.
That is because they apparently don't understand how macro works. It isn't how close you get, it is what the coverage is. The Minolta works at full telephoto for macro, so it works at a longer distance from the subject, which is usually an advantage not a disadvantage.
Evaluation: Continuous Shooting Mode

We look at two factors: burst rate and buffer size. In terms of
burst rate, S602's 5fps is the best, followed by 5700's and F707's
3fps, and Minolta's 2fps. On the other hand, 7i permits to take 6
shots before the buffer is full. This is followed by S602 (5
shots) and 5700 and F707 (3 shots).
So why didn't they test the 8 frames/sec mode on the Minolta?
I will omit the next three paragraphs.
-------------------------------------------------------
CK's comments:

The digital zoom testing does not make sense because the four
cameras are not on the same ground. How can you compare a 4X
digital zoom against a 1.4x digital zoom?
Digital zoom is worthless anyway, of course.

Bryan
 
Tested Model 5700 vs other digi cams?

Of course Tested Model carmera is not good than other formal camera
since it is a tested model : )

We need the formal CP5700 to do test comparision, not tested model: )
If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
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TAIPEI, TAIWAN - FORMOSA - Nikon Cool Pix 5000 user
 
as title...

PRE-PRODUCTED TEST 5700 CAMERA VS. OTHER FORMAL CAMERAS!!
If you can read Chinese, there is a newly comparison between Nikon
5700, Minolta D7i, Fuji S602, and Sony 707 on the following link :-

http://www.digital.idv.tw/dc-test/Minolta/DiMAGE7i/compare/index-dimage7i-compare.htm

1st test : zoom capability (full wide, full optical tele, digital
zoom)
2nd test : exposure bracketing
3rd test : macro
4th test : continuous shotting

What do you think ?

Jason.
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TAIPEI, TAIWAN - FORMOSA - Nikon Cool Pix 5000 user
 
Main thing I noticed was very little chromatic aberration for
all the cameras, and and those are some tough shots with the
severe backlighting. I really don't think you can expect less than
that from any prosumer digital camera. Strange that the Sony should
mess up the whitebalance so badly for the cloudy airplane shot.
Since the 5700 seems to sharp at 8x zoom itd be interesting
to see what it looks like only zoomed to the 4 or 5x of
the other cameras. Definitely a nice lens.

ian
 

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