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Nikkor 24-70 Vignettes bad
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Lihkin
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Do you have any filters on the lens?
carpeicthus
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Welcome to full-frame. Wait until you see the 70-200.
Personally, I love it. Lenses have a heck of a lot more character on FX. Plus if you're really looking for edge-to-edge quality, you're probably stopping down. There the 24-70, unlike the 70-200, is a winner throughout the frame.
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Personally, I love it. Lenses have a heck of a lot more character on FX. Plus if you're really looking for edge-to-edge quality, you're probably stopping down. There the 24-70, unlike the 70-200, is a winner throughout the frame.
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Joe Mondello
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You can correct this in post or in-camera JPG. But the problem is physics of light -- not the lens. This zoom is as good as it gets in this range.
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Kaj E
Forum Pro
It is normal for FX. Here an interactive test of the 24-70 on DX and FX:
http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1121/cat/13
Click the Full frame tab to see the thumbnails for the different tests. Then click on the individual tests to make them larger and interactive.
It is also interesting as it shows how the same lens performs on DX.
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Kaj
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http://www.slrgear.com/reviews/showproduct.php/product/1121/cat/13
Click the Full frame tab to see the thumbnails for the different tests. Then click on the individual tests to make them larger and interactive.
It is also interesting as it shows how the same lens performs on DX.
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Mel
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I had noticed this also and am now using the in-camera vignette control on my D3 to compensate on those rare occassions when shooting wide open at 2.8. No idea if the D700 has this feature but if it does, you will be pleased.
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michaeladawson
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But as one other poster here said, "Welcome to full frame". If you are going to shoot wide open many lenses are going to vignette.
This is nothing new. It was there with film and it's here with digital. The advantage today is that you can correct on the computer to a large degree. Degree of vignetting was a common lens test in the "old days" and I suspect we'll see more attention to this as full frame becomes more ubiquitous.
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Mike Dawson
This is nothing new. It was there with film and it's here with digital. The advantage today is that you can correct on the computer to a large degree. Degree of vignetting was a common lens test in the "old days" and I suspect we'll see more attention to this as full frame becomes more ubiquitous.
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Bill Fagan
Senior Member
but it is correctable. Lens would have to be larger. No big deal to me. I would pay another $1000USD for fewer compromises.
johnosthus
Forum Enthusiast
I noticed there is an in-camera correction setting to reduce vigenetting. So it appears the engineers were aware of this situation. Anybody tried that yet?
normanJi
Well-known member
Why Nikon is making f2.8 and charging a fortune? And, when Nikon is unable to give top quality why not Nikon make a cheaper f4 or something.
If the photographer can not use f2.8 [ to avoid Vignettes] why pay for that to Nikon ?
I want to ask these question to Nikon. Thanks
If the photographer can not use f2.8 [ to avoid Vignettes] why pay for that to Nikon ?
I want to ask these question to Nikon. Thanks
johnosthus
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Isn't this criticism instead of helping a friend?
The optics involved are technically complex, and seem to vary from camera to camera, and with pixel density, apparently. Perhaps a person happily using the 70-200 for years on one camera with no problems will be justifiable surprised to find it doesn't work on a full frame camera.
I do not see vignenetting yet on my 20 mm 2.8. What photographic principle quides when it will appear on a difernt camera?
Or better yet, please advise me on how to adjust my FF menu setting for viginetting? High, low or normal? Which photographic principal guides each setting, which which lens?
Kaj E
Forum Pro
I have long added a slight vignette on some of my D200 shots. Not for the reason you mention, but to draw attention to the center portion of the image. It is kind of a generic dodge and burn process. Works well on portraits. But I do certainly not want to have it in most of my shots.So they get the "look" of full frame"
The vignetting is an unavoidable fact with FX, wide angle lenses and large apertures. One can in post-processing at least reduce the effect.
This has been an argument for the DX format as long as i can remember. It is still a fact.
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Kaj E
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It is the angle of light hitting the FX sensor at an angle at the edges. The more the light comes in at an angle less of it will reach the sensor well. The effect is more pronounced with digital FX than with film.
Please show us a photo with your 20mm lens at f/2.8 and a FX camera of a white wall straight out of the camera. I am quite sure there will be vignetting.
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anotherMike
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I'd say you don't understand the realities of lens design much.
All lenses are tradeoffs - you can't make the perfect lens, or at least, not if you keep it even remotely reasonable in price.
The 24-70 is a lens capable of matching or BEATING many primes in the 35,50,60 range and at least equal to them at 28 and 70mm. That's IMPRESSIVE for a zoom. And it does so while maintaining image integrity and a balance of attributes - it's not going all out for sharpness at the expense of CA control or cruddy tonal transitions and horrid bokeh.
So it has some vignetting at 2.8 - so what. It's a very reasonable tradeoff given the other quality attributes of the lens. No lens is perfect and it's not either (it has issues at 24mm that I'd rather see addressed before vignetting that goes away when you stop it down), but given it's one of the best, if not the best, mid range zoom made by anyone, I'd say the overall result is completely acceptable.
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All lenses are tradeoffs - you can't make the perfect lens, or at least, not if you keep it even remotely reasonable in price.
The 24-70 is a lens capable of matching or BEATING many primes in the 35,50,60 range and at least equal to them at 28 and 70mm. That's IMPRESSIVE for a zoom. And it does so while maintaining image integrity and a balance of attributes - it's not going all out for sharpness at the expense of CA control or cruddy tonal transitions and horrid bokeh.
So it has some vignetting at 2.8 - so what. It's a very reasonable tradeoff given the other quality attributes of the lens. No lens is perfect and it's not either (it has issues at 24mm that I'd rather see addressed before vignetting that goes away when you stop it down), but given it's one of the best, if not the best, mid range zoom made by anyone, I'd say the overall result is completely acceptable.
-m
vignetting:
I don't have the problem you mentioned, with my Nikkor 24-70 lens; but, even so, the D700 has settings one can adjust to control "vignetting",
BRJR ....(LOL, some of us are quite satisfied as Hobbyists ..)
I don't have the problem you mentioned, with my Nikkor 24-70 lens; but, even so, the D700 has settings one can adjust to control "vignetting",
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