don miller
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I had this function set at "not possible". I changed it after I was sure of the problem.
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D60 Losing pics
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fastlane65
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I also have noticed my D60 does not seem to have all the shots I take. After reading a simlar post some time ago, I started a sub-conscious log.
First I have to say it is not a huge problem. One out of every fifty or so shots. It also seems to be two or three shots together, then no problem for a while. The lost shots are usually ones shot in rapid succession immediately following the first few shots after powering on. It almost seems like the camera needs time to warm up.
It does seem to happen right after I replace the microdrive. I have a 1 gb and a 340 mb, can not comment on any CF.
I have the LCD review turned off. I will shoot several shots and then review for exposure/color and discover that a shot or two is missing.
My first D60 died so I have been reluctant to use the new one for any paying jobs. I plan to use it for a wedding next weekend. I will take my laptop and download the pics as often as possible, and will take several of every pose. Not like it is going to increase my overhead costs.
For those of you still waiting for the D60, don't be afraid. If you are shooting setups (wedding/prom/etc) just review your shots often. If you will be shooting sports, just keep shooting. Don't worry about that shot you think the camera lost - - it was probably out of foucs anyhow!!!
First I have to say it is not a huge problem. One out of every fifty or so shots. It also seems to be two or three shots together, then no problem for a while. The lost shots are usually ones shot in rapid succession immediately following the first few shots after powering on. It almost seems like the camera needs time to warm up.
It does seem to happen right after I replace the microdrive. I have a 1 gb and a 340 mb, can not comment on any CF.
I have the LCD review turned off. I will shoot several shots and then review for exposure/color and discover that a shot or two is missing.
My first D60 died so I have been reluctant to use the new one for any paying jobs. I plan to use it for a wedding next weekend. I will take my laptop and download the pics as often as possible, and will take several of every pose. Not like it is going to increase my overhead costs.
For those of you still waiting for the D60, don't be afraid. If you are shooting setups (wedding/prom/etc) just review your shots often. If you will be shooting sports, just keep shooting. Don't worry about that shot you think the camera lost - - it was probably out of foucs anyhow!!!
Chris Clark
Leading Member
This is a worrying problem, and one reason why I still have a D30 and not moved up to the D60 yet. I'd like to wait for all the glitches in the D60 to be ironed out. Mind you losing pictures is a bit more than a glitch.
The other reason I have not upgraded yet is I,ve blown all the cash already
when i got the d30!
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Steve Mckean
Active member
Ok Im getting more lost pics now more than ever ... Spoke to Canon UK and they have not been made aware of the problem yet (And Canon US are) so great company ? This is now a big problem as there are no more in stock I cannot get it replaced and as Canon UK arnt aware of any problem thers no point in sending it away under warrenty !!!!! catch 22 !!!! and yest I have tried the D60 without any MD in as well and stil still misses pics randomly as well so it is NOT the MD,s.
BEWARE
STEVE
BEWARE
STEVE
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Jack O'Neill
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Hi Steve,
I would suggest posting also in
http://www.robgalbraith.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=8
as I have. The more this info gets around the sooner something will be done about it.
Jack
I would suggest posting also in
http://www.robgalbraith.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=8
as I have. The more this info gets around the sooner something will be done about it.
Jack
tom jacobson
Leading Member
Is it possible that the pictures are on the MD or Card, but are not showing up in the Canon Software? Anyone tried downloading directly from the storage media and looking at the files without the Canon software to see if the files are there in the folders? Do these lost files appear in review on the camera or are they just gone? Tried looking at the pictures on the media on another camera and using review? TJ
TJ
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don miller
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Hi Jack,
Lokking through you posts I'm confused. Is you problem the "thumbnail bug" or have you lost pics that you believe were never written to the drive? Thanks.
don
Lokking through you posts I'm confused. Is you problem the "thumbnail bug" or have you lost pics that you believe were never written to the drive? Thanks.
don
don miller
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Hi Tom,That's possible but I believe I have seen the camera not write to the card. (No action what so ever after taking a pic).
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Jack O'Neill
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Hi Don,
I have both problems, the thumbnail bug is much more repeatable, but I have also lost images, sometimes it won't write to the media after taking a picture, then when the next picture is taken the buffer flushs the data to the media from both pictures, but sometimes it only writes the data for the second picture. It was just my feeling that this file loss problem was somehow related to the thumbnail bug.
Jack
I have both problems, the thumbnail bug is much more repeatable, but I have also lost images, sometimes it won't write to the media after taking a picture, then when the next picture is taken the buffer flushs the data to the media from both pictures, but sometimes it only writes the data for the second picture. It was just my feeling that this file loss problem was somehow related to the thumbnail bug.
Jack
don miller
Forum Enthusiast
Hi Jack,
Thank you for the clarification. When you first posted in this thread I thought "what does that have to do with the topic" but now that I've thought about the problem you have a point. I rarely use thumbs or do in-camera editing so I have not followed the thumbnail bug threads. I will be surprised is the losing pics bug is a fixable software/firmware problem but I hope it is.
don
Thank you for the clarification. When you first posted in this thread I thought "what does that have to do with the topic" but now that I've thought about the problem you have a point. I rarely use thumbs or do in-camera editing so I have not followed the thumbnail bug threads. I will be surprised is the losing pics bug is a fixable software/firmware problem but I hope it is.
don
Steve Mckean
Active member
I have tried that with the IBM MD but no there not there ... directly via PCMIA card adaptor
STEVE
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Steve Mckean
Active member
Well in my case there pics never previewed and never ended up on the card either although scrolling the thumb nails on the D60 going backwards the missing pic does occupy the same file number as another image so say 1/3 might have 2 images one shows for a splitsecond then is flashed over by the second both have the same file number tag ... After looking the image is not on the MD.
Steve Mckean
Active member
Just to let you know I get the same problem WITHOUT any CF or MD in the camera on the single shot review mode.
I can take 10-20 practice shots and they alreview fine then sudenly it will miss one and does not preview. SO looks like a Camera problem.
STEVE
I can take 10-20 practice shots and they alreview fine then sudenly it will miss one and does not preview. SO looks like a Camera problem.
STEVE
I just recently had the "taking the picture, but not actually acquiring the picture" bug happen to me on a Skateboard/Empty Pool shoot I did. It was really hot. I was using a 1GB microdrive that also got really hot. I was not shooting bursts, but constantly shooting and then reviewing later. During the reviewing process I saw that several images were not recorded (the great majority were though). Very dissapointing.
Could the heat have something to do with the bug? Computers do not like heat and start to act flakey when they get too hot. We are shooting with computers now.
Also, have any of you out there experienced this while tethered to an external computer?
Just curious.
For now I still love my D60, however I will shoot with my Nikon D1X whenever the action is fast and non-repeatable.
Arielv13
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Creativity is King
Could the heat have something to do with the bug? Computers do not like heat and start to act flakey when they get too hot. We are shooting with computers now.
Also, have any of you out there experienced this while tethered to an external computer?
Just curious.
For now I still love my D60, however I will shoot with my Nikon D1X whenever the action is fast and non-repeatable.
Arielv13
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Creativity is King
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Jack O'Neill
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sean
Guest
I've never seen this happen, but I set the option to not allow my D60 to shoot with no CF card installed. How do you have this option set? Perhaps the camera gets into some mode where it thinks you have no CF installed (flaky connection?) and just throws them out.
I have no idea if this will help, just a thought.
I have no idea if this will help, just a thought.
don miller
Forum Enthusiast
So for those who have seen this problem: Do you send the camera in for service? If it's a firmware problem nothing will be fixed until a new version is released. If it's a infrequently occurring hardware problem there is a good chance service will not find it until Canon identifies a general problem. They say they have a 7-10 business day turnaround on repairs. So figure 2 - 21/2 week turnaround for a camera that will most likely be returned with the problem unfixed.
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Jack O'Neill
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Hi Sean,
I already have the option set to no writing if CF not installed, so I don't think it makes any difference.
Jack
I already have the option set to no writing if CF not installed, so I don't think it makes any difference.
Jack
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Jack O'Neill
Guest
Hi Don,
Unless Canon knows and has a fix for this, I would wait. I don't think it will take news of this magnitude very long for Canon to address in some way.
Jack
Unless Canon knows and has a fix for this, I would wait. I don't think it will take news of this magnitude very long for Canon to address in some way.
Jack
I'm going to wait, also. The Canon service place in NJ told me to send the camera in for the thumbnail bug, and I'm sure they would say the same for the missing pix. I didn't send the camera because I am sure they have no way to fix it at this point, and probably they would not be able to replicate the problem, and just send the camera back.
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