firefox23508
Leading Member
Yes, I need more. I have mine converted to take infrared photos. I need that kind of latitude to get a decent histogram. Granted, my infrared need is specific, but how difficult is it to add another step in the system.
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Who needs more than +/- 2.0 EV?
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Bobo Hodls
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There are times when that's a limitation, if one doesn't want to revert to manual exposure control.
Not a deal killer, or a shot looser, (IMO) but it would be nice to have more EC latitude for the other creative modes.
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Not a deal killer, or a shot looser, (IMO) but it would be nice to have more EC latitude for the other creative modes.
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panikspace
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I do! We all have our own ways of working with our gear; obviously I could shoot in maunal, but I prefer to shoot aperture-priority and use the dial to over or underexpose. It suits me, and yes, I often wish there was more than 2 stops to work with on my 20d. Surely it wouldn't be that hard to add the extra range - isn't it just software?
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Isola Verde
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Would it really cost much to have two choices:
"EC measured in 1/2 or 1/3 stops"
"EV of + -2 or + -3 stops"
If not, I'd vote for both, and pay a £ or two to have them - even if I then only remembered they were there twice a year!
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poliscijustin
Veteran Member
It is helpful if you shoot HDR images, although as with many things, this would probably not have much impact on the target buyer for the new canon
J
Jon Ragnarsson
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One more artificial limit to nudge people in buying more expensive cameras.
Nikon and Olympus offers +5 - -5 on ALL models...
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Nikon and Olympus offers +5 - -5 on ALL models...
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thw
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DavidMaven
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Lock exposure does not work unless your critical tonality is Zone V (middle gray) or withing + - 2 EV for a camera that limits you to 2 stops EC.
If the area of critical tonality is in Zone II or VIII (darkest or lightest tones showing any texture), then you need more than 2 stops.
Of course, there is manual exposure, but that takes longer, requires setting 2 controls (not just EC on one control).
If a camera maker puts in an EC feature, it should be done properly, not just for backlight situations in which the critical tonality is in or close to Zone V.
EC of + - 2 stops is just half-baked and useful mainly for marketing. Newbs will think it's a great feature when they read about it, but they'll never remember when to use it or how to use it.
Serious shooters who need or want an easy to use (i.e. non-manual exposure) EC feature will find it inadequate some of the time.
It's just a software adjustment to expand the range from + - 2 stops to + - 5 stops. Do it right or not at all.
Just my opinion.
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If the area of critical tonality is in Zone II or VIII (darkest or lightest tones showing any texture), then you need more than 2 stops.
Of course, there is manual exposure, but that takes longer, requires setting 2 controls (not just EC on one control).
If a camera maker puts in an EC feature, it should be done properly, not just for backlight situations in which the critical tonality is in or close to Zone V.
EC of + - 2 stops is just half-baked and useful mainly for marketing. Newbs will think it's a great feature when they read about it, but they'll never remember when to use it or how to use it.
Serious shooters who need or want an easy to use (i.e. non-manual exposure) EC feature will find it inadequate some of the time.
It's just a software adjustment to expand the range from + - 2 stops to + - 5 stops. Do it right or not at all.
Just my opinion.
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Robert Deutsch
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Some people do need/want more than + - 2.0EV.
But I must say that, in having taken tens of thousands of pictures with eight cameras (just counting the digital ones), I think I've used exposure compensation of 2.0 no more than about half-a-dozen times. I use exposure lock quite a lot; I use spot metering when necessary, and, with cameras that have the manual exposure feature, I've used that sometimes. I don't do HDR; if I did, I would probably find the + -2.0EV limitation inconvenient.
Bob
But I must say that, in having taken tens of thousands of pictures with eight cameras (just counting the digital ones), I think I've used exposure compensation of 2.0 no more than about half-a-dozen times. I use exposure lock quite a lot; I use spot metering when necessary, and, with cameras that have the manual exposure feature, I've used that sometimes. I don't do HDR; if I did, I would probably find the + -2.0EV limitation inconvenient.
Bob
Caer
Senior Member
Perhaps because the target market for that camera most likely couldn't care less about its "cruddy" framerate. If you really need more frames-per-second, buy a more expensive camera.
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MICHAEL_61
Senior Member
Yes of course! For shots like those:
http://lordofthelens.co.nz/JAlbum/City/slides/LIDSKI_URBAN%20 (34).html
http://lordofthelens.co.nz/JAlbum/City/slides/LIDSKI_URBAN%20 (53).html
done at night, when what you see with your naked eye is darkness and the stoopid camera exposes for bright lights and you have to switch to manual to get more than +2
See more at:
http://lordofthelens.co.nz/
Just an observation based on the Luminous Landscape article:
The histogram pictures are 113pixel high. Looking at the left one, there's still some highlights in the left diagram, which will obviously be clipped applying the exposure compensation. Although it's one-pixel high in the diagram, I'd think this represents a non-negligible amount if pixels that will be clipped.
Did anyone ever look into the tradeoffs we're making here?
thanks,
RJ
The histogram pictures are 113pixel high. Looking at the left one, there's still some highlights in the left diagram, which will obviously be clipped applying the exposure compensation. Although it's one-pixel high in the diagram, I'd think this represents a non-negligible amount if pixels that will be clipped.
Did anyone ever look into the tradeoffs we're making here?
thanks,
RJ
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sir_bazz
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How many of those eight cameras could do more than 2.0 stops of EV compensation?
bazz.
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Robert Deutsch
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None. And I never missed it. That's my point. If the 2.0 stops had not been enough on those few occasions, I would have used an easy workaround, such as manual setting of exposure or using exposure lock in combination with exposure compensation.
Bob
Aki Komulainen
Active member
More than 2 would be nice, but I do NEED manual exposure. And Hyper Manual, please 
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