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My every 6 mo. filter rant!!!!!!!

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Allen Frankel said:
lenses--they only had Sunpack available. Well, I know that sunpack
doesn't have the greatest reputation but I said to myself, If ****
can't tell the difference, I probably won't.
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Sorry, but if that's the Sunpak uncoated UV filter you made a mistake. Oh, it's not an expensive mistake, but a mistake.

And while I'm no expert, I'm not just regurgitating what others have written. After Chris from Germany posted his evidence in favor of the B+W 010, I did some empirical tests of my own. On my G1, the Sunpak filter made CA worse than no filter at all. The B+W 486 improved it.

Sometimes you CAN see the difference. It may not be major, but it's enough to make me cough up the extra $20 in this case.
 
LOL!! I'm so glad I missed out on most of that DC stuff. I caught the very end of this person posting here... thank goodness! Good to see you still here and I always look for your "most entertaining" postings. Talk to you later.

nahau
 
I don't mind making a mistake, but my understanding based on somebody's post, is that the G2 does not have the same problems of chromatic aberration as the G1. I don't mind paying the extra money for new filters but I just needed a fix as my lens was getting to dusty and dirty--I take a lot of pictures of kids and don't always react quickly enough when they stick their hands out ;).
 
Allen Frankel said:
I don't mind making a mistake, but my understanding based on
somebody's post, is that the G2 does not have the same problems of
chromatic aberration as the G1. I don't mind paying the extra
money for new filters but I just needed a fix as my lens was
getting to dusty and dirty--I take a lot of pictures of kids and
don't always react quickly enough when they stick their hands out
;).
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Heh, I have the same problem with dog noses.

I agree, the G2 is better with CA. I haven't repeated my test with the G2.

Generally I also agree with **** S on filters. You really don't need the absolute most expensive most of the time. But I won't be using cheap uncoated Sunpaks either, unless I was in a situation such as you described.

One point I disagree with is the minimizing of the flare problem. I use hoods, but they're not always practical, especially with a polarizer. On the G2 at least you can mount the hood after the polarizer, then rotate them together. But on a lens where the hood has a separate mount, you would have to reach into the hood to rotate the filter. But then you can't see anything but your fingers. :)
 
Just in case anyone is interested, http://www.thkphoto.com (Hoya, actually Tokina/Hoya/Kenko) has an interesting discussion of the benefits of coating, multicoating etc.

In many - probably most - situations, the coating won't matter - as **** says, you won't be able to tell images taken with coated and uncoated filters apart. But in low light, or with backlit subjects, coatings can help to improve light transmission, decrease flare and improve contrast.

So you ain't drivin' a Porsche. Does that mean you made a mistake, or you're a lousy driver? You decide. GKL
 
Hi Allen,
Allen Frankel said:
just looking at the
selections on line was making me dizzy.
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Me too also!!!!!!!
Allen F said:
So I went into a local
camera store and asked them if they had tiffen, hoya or B&W
lenses--they only had Sunpack available.
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Sorry Allen,

If they don't carry any of the "big three" the're impersonating a camera store. Sunpack might be OK but I have zilch knowledge about them.
Allen F said:
Well, I know that sunpack
doesn't have the greatest reputation but I said to myself, If ****
can't tell the difference, I probably won't.
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OOPS--**** didn't mention anything about Sunpack. Neither did the Pop Photo article--only Tiffen, Hoya & B+W if I remember--and coated vs. non-coated.

Allen, I put the caveat in my "Rant" about major brands--I don't consider Sunpack to be a major in the serious/pro photo game.
Hey, at least your lens is protected!!!!!!
Regards,

**** S, Temecula, CA
'Capturing The Essence'
 
eg said:
And while I'm no expert, I'm not just regurgitating what others
have written. After Chris from Germany posted his evidence in favor
of the B+W 010, I did some empirical tests of my own. On my G1, the
Sunpak filter made CA worse than no filter at all. The B+W 486
improved it.
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Agreed, and I think made mention of this fact about Chris's work with the B+W on the G1 on my "Rant."
--
**** S, Temecula, CA
'Capturing The Essence'
 
Help!!!

I've had my EF 16-35mm L for some time but haven't used it as my D60 is somewhere that isn't my home!!!

Now, I have a job in two weeks that I can actually use the beast on my EOS5. Soooo time to get a "thin" UV without front threads to eliminate vignetting right? I read my own post about filters and ordered a Tiffen + lens cap from my favorite salesman.

Would you believe the Fxxxxxg factory that makes the thin rings for tiffen burnt to the ground--hence no mo thin Tiffen filters.

But my 77mm $85 B+W is on the way. Arrrrgh. It is going to be a real pain going to the safety deposit box to get that damn filter out every time I want to use it. Besides, I may have to switch to "generic" scotch for awhile.
Donations Accepted ($$ or scotch)!!!!!
Regards,
--
**** S, Temecula, CA
'Capturing The Essence'
 
**** S wrote:
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I may have to switch to
**** S said:
"generic" scotch for awhile.
Donations Accepted ($$ or scotch)!!!!!
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****

I'd consider pulling a thicker lens out of the pile and sticking to quality scotch. You never know what might happen at the photo shoot after drinking this:

http://liquors.pippin.louisville.ky.us/Cart/product.asp?productid=13257&catcode=250&topcatcode=

So what's your brand?

--
Allen

I have no idea about that which I am writing.
Thus, I hereby retract everything I just wrote.
 
What about thin Hoyas? or is there only one factory that makes thin aluminum filter rings? BTW, your B+W will be brass, so if you drop it, don't worry, you won't lose your $85 investment. Brass is extremely rigid, so the 16-35L will then absorb the full brunt of the shock ... and many more cases of scotch. Cheers, GKL, aka the troublemaker (;-)
**** S said:
Help!!!
I've had my EF 16-35mm L for some time but haven't used it as my
D60 is somewhere that isn't my home!!!
Now, I have a job in two weeks that I can actually use the beast on
my EOS5. Soooo time to get a "thin" UV without front threads to
eliminate vignetting right? I read my own post about filters and
ordered a Tiffen + lens cap from my favorite salesman.
Would you believe the Fxxxxxg factory that makes the thin rings for
tiffen burnt to the ground--hence no mo thin Tiffen filters.
But my 77mm $85 B+W is on the way. Arrrrgh. It is going to be a
real pain going to the safety deposit box to get that damn filter
out every time I want to use it. Besides, I may have to switch to
"generic" scotch for awhile.
Donations Accepted ($$ or scotch)!!!!!
Regards,
--
**** S, Temecula, CA
'Capturing The Essence'
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Hi gkl
gkl said:
What about thin Hoyas? or is there only one factory that makes thin
aluminum filter rings? BTW, your B+W will be brass, so if you drop
it, don't worry, you won't lose your $85 investment. Brass is
extremely rigid, so the 16-35L will then absorb the full brunt of
the shock ...
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I don't even wanna think about that.
gkl said:
and many more cases of scotch.
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I do wanna think about that ;-)))

Actually I settled on the B+W after being unable to get the Tiffen because B+W includes a fitted push on lens cap with their ultra thin filters. Obbiously a "clip-in " won't work due to the absence of front threads.
Regards,
--
**** S, Temecula, CA
'Capturing The Essence'
 
Hey Kid!

Your still a baby, waitt till you get to be my agr (71), they you'll be a teenager.

Agree with you right on, buy a lens slap on a filter, I can't imagine how many lenses Iv'e saved through the years fro bangs and scratches.

Frank
**** S said:
gkl said:
What about thin Hoyas? or is there only one factory that makes thin
aluminum filter rings? BTW, your B+W will be brass, so if you drop
it, don't worry, you won't lose your $85 investment. Brass is
extremely rigid, so the 16-35L will then absorb the full brunt of
the shock ...
Click to expand...
I don't even wanna think about that.
**** S said:
and many more cases of scotch.
Click to expand...
I do wanna think about that ;-)))
Actually I settled on the B+W after being unable to get the Tiffen
because B+W includes a fitted push on lens cap with their ultra
thin filters. Obbiously a "clip-in " won't work due to the absence
of front threads.
Regards,
--
**** S, Temecula, CA
'Capturing The Essence'
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--
Frank
 
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