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* 06/30/2008 Weekly Landscape/Scenic Show & Tell

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What happened? I know I typed a response here (had two windows open), though I can't say I specifically recall hitting Post. [shrug]

1st. Like the soft delicate and varied color exhibited. What is that foreground surface? From the footprints, it looks like gravel (from weathering, or driven from a flood wash)? Not sure about the horiz. placement here.

2nd. Did you use any Shadow/HL on this? This shows a nice DR range, but I think it's more the camera than post work, no? This scene has more going for it, compositionally. And what about those foreground rocks? Iron? But they give the notion of cobalt blue. Strikingly unusual.

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...Bob, NYC

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I'm with Ben here - it's a beauty of an image. It could be made a bit more engaging with a little local contrast applied (I use Unsharp Mask of 15/35/0). After that, I'm not sure if a final light sharpening would be called for.

The image deserves a slight more attention, as it has even more potential to grab one.

Nice going. :)

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...Bob, NYC

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Heh. People can be quite useful, when the scale is not apparent.

I like the 2nd better than the 1st, but more so for the shift to the right, where the stairway is given a little more show.

Nicely exposed generally, and a good choice for the shutter here. :)

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...Bob, NYC

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Nice stitching.

The first is a bit over saturated in the greens/reds. . . but I like it. The 2nd is really nice - with a clarity that pulls you in. And that's quite a scene there, showing the. . . cable car (what's that called?).

I think I'll take the first one. :)

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...Bob, NYC

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Rick - talking about MF. . . I have to say I never really trust AF. I use it enough, and have no complaints, but I'll grab the ring more oft then hit the AF button. Are you of similar mind?

That IS flawless, as I can tell. Did you pick this vantage for the composition, or the light? I like it in part for being taken a bit behind the source of light.

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...Bob, NYC

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Quite a nice series. Each one engaging in its own right. I prefer the color version of the river/pond with the submerged log is really nice (in part for the wind effect exhibited). And that last one. . . such a bucolic scene. For me, it's the most effective of the lot.

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...Bob, NYC

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Well, the DEET on my legs wore off for wading, and my calves are land mines of bites. The WORST bites are the horsefly (unless it's another type I'm not aware of). It seems there's usually one working an area, and it's relentless, so one has to wait for it to land and try to kill it. Sunday's horsefly was more the challenge than most (but it was a good day to die, eventually).

Anyways. . . worked on a few last night.

Here's the Out Of Aperture single exposure again, with the same taken into PS for a more refined touch:



Canon EOS 5D ,Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM
1/15s f/16.0 at 23.0mm iso100



This next one is part of a 180 deg. pano. Problems in the original stemmed from the glare that was unavoidable on the left (as it faced the sun), which rendered the left 1/2 less colorful and a bit washed out, compared to the right 1/2. Yet, there's plenty of room for cropping a few different scenes out it, on either side.

The prev. example, as well as below, were 3 exposure HDR (bracketed +1-3/4). Have gone back to Photomatix. . . with a bit more study, I find it does do what Enfuse can do, as well as a much more refined development of exposures. Too early to say much more about it, but I just wanted to throw that out there:

http://www.pbase.com/btullis/image/99503312
Canon EOS 5D ,Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM
f/16.0 iso100



I did do something to the sky which may be questionable, though.

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...Bob, NYC

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
Bob Tullis said:
What happened? I know I typed a response here (had two windows
open), though I can't say I specifically recall hitting Post.
[shrug]

1st. Like the soft delicate and varied color exhibited. What is
that foreground surface? From the footprints, it looks like gravel
(from weathering, or driven from a flood wash)? Not sure about the
horiz. placement here.
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I think this is what they call slick rock, but don't hold me to it. It is not loose like gravel.
Bobo Hodls said:
2nd. Did you use any Shadow/HL on this?
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Shadow H/L is part of my standard work flow, so yes.

This shows a nice DR
Bobo Hodls said:
range, but I think it's more the camera than post work, no?
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Very little work on these, but I did apply a color calibration I got from Hans Kruse until I get my Gretag Macbeth card so I can do my own. I used the same on both images.

I feel like the DR out of this camera is better than the 5D, but it is more an impression than a proven fact. I notice it especially in clouds.

This
Bobo Hodls said:
scene has more going for it, compositionally. And what about those
foreground rocks? Iron? But they give the notion of cobalt blue.
Strikingly unusual.
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The color is a bit off. Those are black lava. I think my color calibration is the cause of the blue tint. Until I get my own calibration (instead of borrowed) I would not know exactly what to do.
Bobo Hodls said:
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Ben
 
Rick Knepper said:
Ben_Egbert said:
Hi Rick:

Nothing wrong with this shot. I am wishing I could spend at least a
month in southern Utah and the surrounding areas.
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Yeah, this is a different shot from the one I was considering
posting. I decided not to go there. Not the thread for it. As I have
mentioned elsewhere, the 24-70 become an addiction for me on that
last trip and I have a disportionate number of shots taken with it.
On my next trip back to Moab in early August, I will bring all of my
lenses including the zooms as I always do, but I fully intend to
leave them out of my backpack at least for the first few days to see
if I can ween myself off the zoom addiction. :)
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Thats exactly my problem as well. I sold my 24-105, so that helps a bit, but I still have my 17-40 and use it way too much, and regret it when I get home. The problem is, everything looks good on the trip, and I don't see the defect until I am on my home monitor.
Rick Knepper said:
Did you notice that I manually focused the 24-70?
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No, but thats good to know. Where was the focus point? I have been involved in a discussion over at the FM forum about infinity focus. Not an argument, so much as a question about what it really means.

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Ben
 
Ben_Egbert said:
I think this is what they call slick rock, but don't hold me to it.
It is not loose like gravel.
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Interesting, more so for the evidence of foot prints.
Ben_Egbert said:
The color is a bit off. Those are black lava. I think my color
calibration is the cause of the blue tint. Until I get my own
calibration (instead of borrowed) I would not know exactly what to do.
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Hmmm. Seems to have the same cast, if that's what it is, in the shadow area of the rockface on the left side. See if your WB adjustment tool has shadow, midtone, and highlight color adjustment wheels or sliders. I'd think (?) that the shadows cast could be corrected individually. (At least, I have such in the Aperture RAW converter - haven't looked at what LR/ACR has in this regard, and forgot what I used to know of ACR).

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...Bob, NYC

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
Bob Tullis said:
Ben_Egbert said:
I think this is what they call slick rock, but don't hold me to it.
It is not loose like gravel.
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Interesting, more so for the evidence of foot prints.
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Not sure how the prints get there. It might be soft enough to give way to hooves but not really an aggregate in the normal senses.
Bobo Hodls said:
Bobo Hodls said:
The color is a bit off. Those are black lava. I think my color
calibration is the cause of the blue tint. Until I get my own
calibration (instead of borrowed) I would not know exactly what to do.
Click to expand...
Hmmm. Seems to have the same cast, if that's what it is, in the
shadow area of the rockface on the left side. See if your WB
adjustment tool has shadow, midtone, and highlight color adjustment
wheels or sliders. I'd think (?) that the shadows cast could be
corrected individually. (At least, I have such in the Aperture RAW
converter - haven't looked at what LR/ACR has in this regard, and
forgot what I used to know of ACR).

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I seldom correct colors using WB, the problem is, what do I correct them too, my built in color sense is the reason I gave up painting. I would not see this blue cast during raw conversion.

What I was trying to accomplish with this color correction is to match DPP conversions when using ACR. I wil try a DPP, and I bet I don't see any blue cast.

Thats a good job for this day, stay tuned.
Bobo Hodls said:
...Bob, NYC

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Ben
 
Hello Bob:

My internet connection was down (along with phone and TV as it is all Comcast) most of the day as some construction work cut the cable. So I may be pretty late getting back here.

I really like the improvement in the second image, lightened up the foliage and darkened the sky.

The pano is fantastic however. Not sure what you don't like about the sky, but it looks pretty good to me. The sky just comes along for the ride however, and the story is in the lake and the details of the distant shore with the Lillie's in the foreground.

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Ben
 
Here is a DPP conversions with my normal post processing and a touch of FM velvia added just as with the original. I used landscape in DPP. I could have used neutral, but then I would have been responsible to jazz up the color, and I am not qualified.

I still see a hint of blue in the rocks, but it seems much less pronounced. ACR is not so hot at accurate colors for the 1DS-m3.



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Ben_Egbert said:
The pano is fantastic however. Not sure what you don't like about the
sky, but it looks pretty good to me. The sky just comes along for the
ride however, and the story is in the lake and the details of the
distant shore with the Lillie's in the foreground.
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I think it works, but it doesn't have the clarity the rest of the image exhibits. I wanted to give it a little emphasis to the sky than was captured, so I slightly cooked it to be warmer (Nik Vivezia, actually). I'd agree that the sky is a backdrop for the center of interest, so it's not a glaring difference (it just wasn't quite what was there at the time).

Glad you liked it.

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...Bob, NYC

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
Yes, this is much better in color accuracy (or so it seems here) - but the difference in saturation leaves me a little flat. (Maybe it's only for seeing the first one first?).

I think it could stand more saturation, for the green grasses and the overall rock formation.
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...Bob, NYC

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

 
Thanks for looking. These are the Pittsburgh Incline Cars. Originally they used to carry down the material from on top of the mountain down to the rivers to be loaded onto ships. There used be a ton of them in Pittsburgh back during the steel days. I believe there are only 2 left operating.
Bob Tullis said:
Nice stitching.

The first is a bit over saturated in the greens/reds. . . but I like
it. The 2nd is really nice - with a clarity that pulls you in.
And that's quite a scene there, showing the. . . cable car (what's
that called?).

I think I'll take the first one. :)

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...Bob, NYC

Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/btullis

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