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I've always used a small,compact camera besdies my Uzi.
Currently it's a Canon Ixus V (S110), but I now find I need more pixels.
Does anyone have any recommendations in the 3-4 Megapixel range ?
Ultra-compactness really is essential.

Reviews I've read of the Olympus C40 (D40) seem very mixed - does anyone have hands-on experience with this ?
Thanks.
 
Skaliwag said:
I've always used a small,compact camera besdies my Uzi.
Currently it's a Canon Ixus V (S110), but I now find I need more
pixels.
Does anyone have any recommendations in the 3-4 Megapixel range ?
Ultra-compactness really is essential.
Reviews I've read of the Olympus C40 (D40) seem very mixed - does
anyone have hands-on experience with this ?
Thanks.
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I have heard good things about the Canon S30 and S40, and they are fairly compact as well, although not as small as the digital Ixus.
 
Skaliwag -

It's a super camera and I (among others here) feel the review by Phil was underrated. Other sites praise it highly as do I. I have some pictures at http://pbase.com/lalady if you want to get an idea of the picture quality. Search here for D-40 and you'll find other D-40 owners too. (I've won a couple of POTD's using this camera :)

The size is wonderful, it only uses 2 batteries, has pixel mapping, and loads of other features. I love it.

You can't go wrong with this camera.

Judy
 
It's that simple. I have one and the image quality is great! Check out my D40 images in the link below. The camera has exceeded all of my expectations. I have had no CA problems, my only complaint is an occasional slow write time. I would highly recommend this camera, and have said in the past that I cannot understand why this camera is not more popular, just put it in your pocket and go!

Mark
http://www.pbase.com/1075/root
D40Z, Uzi, A-200
 
Sorry, but I'm not convinced.
There is clearly a major problem with purple fringing on this camera.
Almost every full size daylight sample I've seen has the problem.

From what I've seen, it's clearly beaten by the Canon S40 in almost every respect.
 
Skaliwag said:
Sorry, but I'm not convinced.
There is clearly a major problem with purple fringing on this camera.
Almost every full size daylight sample I've seen has the problem.
From what I've seen, it's clearly beaten by the Canon S40 in almost
every respect.
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You've already made up your mind. Phil's review is not the gospel. I am a beginner to digital photography, but have had many conventional cameras over the years. Like many beginners to digital photograhy we are now playing with and learning how to use all these new bells and whistles.

Regardless, I still know a good photo and a great photo when I see one and the D40 stands up to the challenge of producing great photos. I have seen what others post and it will be the only camera I carry on vacation this year I am so pleased with the D40.

Enjoy your Canon.

Desert Dude
 
I knwo you are looking for a 3-4 megapixel, but for ultra compact, I think the Minolta Dimage X is real nice. So far the pics have come out very good. I havent printed any yet, so dont know how they look, but on the web they are fine.

I got the Dimage X, because I really wanted a camera that I can litereally keep in my pocket all the time without worrying about breaking it.
Skaliwag said:
I've always used a small,compact camera besdies my Uzi.
Currently it's a Canon Ixus V (S110), but I now find I need more
pixels.
Does anyone have any recommendations in the 3-4 Megapixel range ?
Ultra-compactness really is essential.
Reviews I've read of the Olympus C40 (D40) seem very mixed - does
anyone have hands-on experience with this ?
Thanks.
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I only ever use reviews as a guide to what to look out for.
Full size real world samples are the main way I choose between cameras.

In the gallery posted by 1075 in this thread, some of the pictures are pretty awful, with sharpening halos and purple fringing.

What I need to know from other owners, like yourself, is whether this is the norm or the exception.

As for Phil's review, despite him making me aware of the problems, his sample gallery for the D40 is actually very impressive.
 
Skaliwag said:
I only ever use reviews as a guide to what to look out for.
Full size real world samples are the main way I choose between
cameras.
In the gallery posted by 1075 in this thread, some of the pictures
are pretty awful, with sharpening halos and purple fringing.
What I need to know from other owners, like yourself, is whether
this is the norm or the exception.
As for Phil's review, despite him making me aware of the problems,
his sample gallery for the D40 is actually very impressive.
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I'm pretty new at this, and don't get me wrong, I don't mind in the least that you find imperfections in my photos, but could you tell me specifically which ones you are referring to? I know that the lights in some of my night shots are blown out or overexposed, but I don't see what you are referring to. Only reason that I'm asking is so I can be more aware of what the problems you see. I've been telling people that I haven't noticed these kinds of problems, and I really haven't, mabye I don't know what to look for.
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http://www.pbase.com/1075/root
D40Z, Uzi, A-200
 
Hi All,

I really do DISPAIR !! the original poster asked for recormmendations......... we give him this.....he then condems the reply,
Why dont you forget the C/D 40 and get a Cannon

Sorry but theres not much point replying to your post if you dont listen...when a perfect camera is born perhaph you would let us all Know

http://www.pbase.com/ekim

Go pick holes in this gallery

Regards

Mike
 
ekim said:
Hi All,
I really do DISPAIR !! the original poster asked for
recormmendations......... we give him this.....he then condems the
reply,
Why dont you forget the C/D 40 and get a Cannon

Sorry but theres not much point replying to your post if you dont
listen...when a perfect camera is born perhaph you would let us all
Know

http://www.pbase.com/ekim

Go pick holes in this gallery

Regards

Mike
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Skaliwag said:
I've always used a small,compact camera besdies my Uzi.
Currently it's a Canon Ixus V (S110), but I now find I need more
pixels.
Does anyone have any recommendations in the 3-4 Megapixel range ?
Ultra-compactness really is essential.
Reviews I've read of the Olympus C40 (D40) seem very mixed - does
anyone have hands-on experience with this ?
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Have you tried out Fuji S601 Zoom? Looks like a good one for consideration...

Don't have any experience with it, but perhaps someone from the Fuji forum can help.
 
Mike, I'm looking for a camera for my mom. The C/D40 seems to fit the bill since it's small but still has the resolution to print big if she shoots a keeper. Battery life doesn't concern me much since you just charge a set of four which should be plenty for most occasions. It looks like the C/D40 is ready to point and shoot and still has all the features to use as you learn more about photography. Do you do a lot of postprocessing of your pictures or have you found some settings to deal with CA?

Thanks, Maxven
Jeff I. said:
ekim said:
Hi All,
I really do DISPAIR !! the original poster asked for
recormmendations......... we give him this.....he then condems the
reply,
Why dont you forget the C/D 40 and get a Cannon

Sorry but theres not much point replying to your post if you dont
listen...when a perfect camera is born perhaph you would let us all
Know

http://www.pbase.com/ekim

Go pick holes in this gallery

Regards

Mike
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the c720 is pretty good for the zoom and its quite small in size. its 3.3mp and 8x zoom and enough manual features.
Skaliwag said:
I've always used a small,compact camera besdies my Uzi.
Currently it's a Canon Ixus V (S110), but I now find I need more
pixels.
Does anyone have any recommendations in the 3-4 Megapixel range ?
Ultra-compactness really is essential.
Reviews I've read of the Olympus C40 (D40) seem very mixed - does
anyone have hands-on experience with this ?
Thanks.
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Daniella
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
 
Maxven said:
Mike, I'm looking for a camera for my mom. The C/D40 seems to fit
the bill since it's small but still has the resolution to print big
if she shoots a keeper. Battery life doesn't concern me much since
you just charge a set of four which should be plenty for most
occasions. It looks like the C/D40 is ready to point and shoot and
still has all the features to use as you learn more about
photography. Do you do a lot of postprocessing of your pictures or
have you found some settings to deal with CA?

Thanks, Maxven
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Hi Maxven,

D40 Settings ( to stop CA, if it appears)

Dont forget to take factory default reset off...MOST IMPORTANT
Saturation -2
sharpness-1
contrast-1

Right, on these settings I still find that saturation is good if not slightly over the top.,sharpness is better than the E10 (before Proccessing) and contrast about the same. None of the C/d40 pictures have been altered except for resizing for the web (1600x1200), all straight out of the camera.

If you compare the E10 pics to C40 you will see that they "Sparkle", were as the E10 pics need some work, Ive asked on the SLR forum about this and the answer seems to be that the E10 needs post processing as its suposed to give a FLAT image.

With regards to the lens, Yes it is small, so is the camera, so watch were you point the lens, If is grey outside, as it is most of the time in UK, watch the background for drastic variations in contrast, you will get CA on any camera in these conbitions.

The D/C40 loves blue sky

On a last note on batteries, get 1800 mah and a charger that shows each battery with a seperate circut light Ansmann is a good choice,I have known other chargers to give faulse "fully charged lights"

Hope this helps,

http://www.pbase.com/ekim

Best Regards,

Mike
 
Thanks Mike, your advice it greatly appreciated! Now all I have to do is convince my dad that a digital camera is more expensive to buy than a film camera the same size... :-)

Maxven
ekim said:
Maxven said:
Mike, I'm looking for a camera for my mom. The C/D40 seems to fit
the bill since it's small but still has the resolution to print big
if she shoots a keeper. Battery life doesn't concern me much since
you just charge a set of four which should be plenty for most
occasions. It looks like the C/D40 is ready to point and shoot and
still has all the features to use as you learn more about
photography. Do you do a lot of postprocessing of your pictures or
have you found some settings to deal with CA?

Thanks, Maxven
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Hi Maxven,

D40 Settings ( to stop CA, if it appears)

Dont forget to take factory default reset off...MOST IMPORTANT
Saturation -2
sharpness-1
contrast-1
Right, on these settings I still find that saturation is good if
not slightly over the top.,sharpness is better than the E10 (before
Proccessing) and contrast about the same. None of the C/d40
pictures have been altered except for resizing for the web
(1600x1200), all straight out of the camera.

If you compare the E10 pics to C40 you will see that they
"Sparkle", were as the E10 pics need some work, Ive asked on the
SLR forum about this and the answer seems to be that the E10 needs
post processing as its suposed to give a FLAT image.

With regards to the lens, Yes it is small, so is the camera, so
watch were you point the lens, If is grey outside, as it is most of
the time in UK, watch the background for drastic variations in
contrast, you will get CA on any camera in these conbitions.

The D/C40 loves blue sky

On a last note on batteries, get 1800 mah and a charger that shows
each battery with a seperate circut light Ansmann is a good
choice,I have known other chargers to give faulse "fully charged
lights"

Hope this helps,

http://www.pbase.com/ekim

Best Regards,

Mike
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In your gallery I'm referring particularly to the pictures in the First Images.
In the other sections you don't say if you've used the D40 or the Uzi.

In particular -

Ice on Trees - The icy trees are nice - but even here there are a lot of purple fringed edges. The rest of the picture, to be blunt, looks like it could have come from a video recorder. It's just not got the detail you'd expect from a 4Megapixel camera.

View From Wisp - Same as above, with addition of noticeable halos around skier and fence

Lake View at Dusk - Again, purple fringes on branches and bad sharpening halo around horizon.

I'm aware that these were your first shots, and most of these problems can be reduced, though not eliminated, by changing camera settings.
They are, however, problems that seem to crop up all the time with this camera.
 
In response to my original post, 1 user recommended the Canons and 2 users said they were happy with the D40.

Checking the gallery of one of the D40 owners showed some problems with his shots, which I also found on other D40 samples around the Web.
I did not find these problems on Canon samples.

No, indeed, I can not find any problems with the shots in your gallery.

If you read the reply to Desert Dude, you will see that this is exactly what I was trying to find out - whether the problems I'd seen in so many samples can be avoided. Your gallery and replies suggest that they can be.
 
I have owned a Fuji 4900 before now, and it really put me off the SuperCCD.
Thanks, anyway.
 
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