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erik527 said:
rhlpetrus said:
erik527 said:
I am current on all versions. i even downloaded nx 2 last night and
had the same issue.
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Let's see.

1) Which profile in-camera? sRGB of aRGB?

2) It may be that you chose aRGB, which is not supported by
browsers/ms viewers. In that case, the change is like that, aRGB
shows one way on PS or CNX and another on browsers/viewers. To
correct that, in CNX go to adjust> color profiles, then choose Convert
button and sRGB IEC..., with Intent Perceptual. Save, that should
work on any viewer, internet, etc, just same image as seen on your
PPing soft.
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erik527 said:
With that photo, I used color mode II on my d50.
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Aha, bingo, mode II is Adobe RGB - aRGB for shot.
erik527 said:
Here is what Rockwell says about color mode II - is this the reason
for my problems??
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erik527 said:
Mode II is secret code for Adobe RGB, which only hackers use.
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Typical KR's BS: aRGB has a wider gamut (deeper color grading) and is the standard for printing.
erik527 said:
Adobe
RGB gives dull colors when used by anyone other than an expert in
color management who prints his own work.
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True, on the other hand, sRGB (modes I and III), tend to oversaturate reds, and tests have shown that the red channel clips about 2/3 stop earlier with sRGB than with aRGB. I only use aRGB (mode II) and change to mode Ia (sRGB) in certain situations. But if exposure was well controlled (no reds close to clipping), Mode Ia will work perfectly well, just a choice of saturation, basically.

KR loves oversaturated pics of licensce plates, landscapes and the like, not everyone's piece of cake. Nikon likes that type of setting, I prefer the "dull" aRGB profile mostly (check my images in link nbelow and say if they are undersaturated). Adjustment in PP'ing like white/black point usually increase saturation, so better start lower.
erik527 said:
Even if you're an expert,
if you send your work out for printing, 90% of the time the people
doing the printing aren't experts and screw it up for you. Ignore
desktop armchair hobbyists who bleat on about the broader color gamut
of Adobe RGB.
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Aha yes, that's it, he just discards that,ok, his chopice, perfectly true for monitor/internet vieweing, not for professional printing.
erik527 said:
I've created and printed 100% chroma grads in Adobe RGB
and sRGB and saw no difference when printed either on Inkjets or on
the $250,000 Lightjet 5000 on Fuji Supergloss.
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Principle of authority argument, I'd disconsider this type of claim.
erik527 said:
Oh well! Using Adobe
RGB is asking for trouble unless you really know what you're doing
and have complete control over your process. If you have to ask,
don't use Adobe RGB.
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Oh well, a point of truth there, but if you care to control the process fully (and are not scared of challenges), go with aRGB and learn about it (or, even better PhotoRGB).
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Regards, Renato.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11435304@N04

 
JasonOdell said:
The Capture NX browser isn't color managed beyond sRGB or Adobe RGB.
If you open images in Capture NX in sRGB that you've shot in Adobe
RGB, your highlights could clip.
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Mainly red channel, actually (Iliah Borg tested it, red channel clipping occurs 2/3 stop earlier in sRGB compared to aRGB).
JasonOdell said:
On the opposite side of the spectrum, using ProPhoto RGB gives even
more latitude for highlights and shadows. I've got pictures that the
camera histogram shows as having clipping, but there is none when I
open in CNX in ProPhoto RGB.

-Jason
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True, PhotoRGB has the widest latitude, better than aRGB, much better than sRGB.
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Regards, Renato.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11435304@N04

 
about getting back to where you were in file hierarchy. That habit of NX's of making you navigate from the beginning each time drives me nuts and keeps me out of NX if I have a choice. I hope the tip works somehow in Mac-land.
 
Taallyn said:
One thing that I have found annoying when using the NX2 Browser is
that it doesn't remember the photo you clicked on to edit after you
have closed the photo. When you open the browser again, you have to
start back at the beginning of the list and scroll all of the way
through it again to get to the point you were at. The Browser should
remember that. As it is now, you have a lot of rescrolling to do
after each editting each photograph.
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Whilst I can find a LOT to like about NX2, I find it infuriating that they still haven't fixed this. Edit an image and save it, and you lose your place in the browser!! Not very easy to work through the images one by one when you keep getting thrown back to the start.

Mike
 
I agree. But this is why I have always used View NX to cull and pick the images I want to edit. CTRL-O in View to open in Capture NX, fix it, save and close, then alt-tab back to View NX.

But yeah, they could have fixed this in Capture NX 2.0, and they didn't.
 
reck said:
about getting back to where you were in file hierarchy. That habit of
NX's of making you navigate from the beginning each time drives me
nuts and keeps me out of NX if I have a choice. I hope the tip works
somehow in Mac-land.
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In the Browswer, top right corner, change from thumbnail grid to thumbnail list, it still shows the thumbnails, but in a list, and returns you to where you left off after editing, saving, and closing a picture - this used to drive me nuts too :-). So why doesn't this also work with the grid view? Couldn't tell you.

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Albert-O
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Please visit me at
http://www.berto.zenfolio.com

 
See my previous post above ^.
drmrbrewer said:
Taallyn said:
One thing that I have found annoying when using the NX2 Browser is
that it doesn't remember the photo you clicked on to edit after you
have closed the photo. When you open the browser again, you have to
start back at the beginning of the list and scroll all of the way
through it again to get to the point you were at. The Browser should
remember that. As it is now, you have a lot of rescrolling to do
after each editting each photograph.
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Whilst I can find a LOT to like about NX2, I find it infuriating that
they still haven't fixed this. Edit an image and save it, and you
lose your place in the browser!! Not very easy to work through the
images one by one when you keep getting thrown back to the start.

Mike
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Albert-O
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Please visit me at
http://www.berto.zenfolio.com

 
Hi.

Instead of mouse-click to expand your browser window, make use of the extremely powerful Workspace Interfaces. (which you can customize, alter, save, with which dialogs you want open/active etc)

Press ALT+1 to activate the default browser workspace.
You are exactly where you left off editing your last image.

Hope that helps.

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Kevin
so many flowers, so little time sigh
the 'Art' of Aperture: a mini tutorial
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=23460691
http://www.rootminus1.com/freepics/thumbnails.php?album=68
http://www.rootminus1.com/freepics/index.php?cat=10032
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/theronfamily/
 
Cheep said:
But yeah, they could have fixed this in Capture NX 2.0, and they didn't.
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http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=28192193

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Kevin
so many flowers, so little time sigh
the 'Art' of Aperture: a mini tutorial
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1034&message=23460691
http://www.rootminus1.com/freepics/thumbnails.php?album=68
http://www.rootminus1.com/freepics/index.php?cat=10032
http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d58/theronfamily/
 
Didn't work for me, Theron. Alt+1 did nothing after I closed the photo I was editting. I clicked on the Browser Workspace in the toolbar dropdown menu, and the Browser opened with the correct image highlighted. However, as soon as you move the cursor into the Browser area, the highlight moves to whatever is under the cursor. Doesn't really help to keep your spot in a long list of things. This was with the thumbnail grid open though. I haven't tried it with the thumbnail list yet.
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Craig
Nikon D80, 18-135mm, 70-300mm VR, 50mm 1.8, SB600, MB-D80
Manfrotto 190XDB tripod w/ 486RC2 Ball Head
Kenko 12/20/36mm Ext. Tubes
http://taallyn.zenfolio.com
http://4pphotoblog.blogspot.com/
 
Didn't work for me either when I tried it last night, but I'll try again. Maybe I was just being thick.

Bottom line is that this is so fundamental, and has been mentioned in public countless times, that Nik/Nikon have NO excuse for not fixing it after so long. I mean, surely it takes about a minute of testing the product, and half a brain cell, to realise the way it works now is idiotic. This is version 2, not some early-stage alpha or beta.

Mike
 
I can understand why you would do white point and blackpoint in Capture NX or other raw converter if you are going to print from it. Would you still need to do that if you plan on later working some in photoshop.

It seems like you would want all the data available goint into photoshop and if you apply that you would be discarding data.
 
Thanks, so if you do your processing from NX set the blackpoint there and if you did your processing in photoshop set blackpoint in photoshop not the raw converter ?
 
TheronFamily said:
hi (again)

Have discovered a better way to handle those nigglies of yours.
Presentation mode.
Press P, takes you to a full screen edit mode.
Maximise ur image (Ctrl+0) or Ctrl++.
The magic of this is that the edit list and all other toolbars /
dialogs etc, are all hidden on the edge(s) of your window. Mouse over
where the edit list is normally situated, it pops up, you apply
adjustment, mouse away, it's gone!
Added bonus - if ur working on a part of the image that would be
under the edit list once it's opened, grab the pic and drag it left
with H key.
Too kewl!
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Ok. This is the tip of the month. Really, NX is looking great from where I sit. I use it with a Wacom tablet and bu using reloadable settings, I can fly through editing. All I need now is Nik to release Color Effex pro 3.0 for NX and I'm set.

Thanks for the tip!
 
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