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Canon G9 Review (from an opinionated pro, but interesting points)

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Too many vague generalities. Like his statement on the G9 shutter lag: " The G9 has a fairly minimal shutter lag, meaning it fires almost instantly". I guess that could be correct, depending on how big the "almost" is and what's "fairly".

Too many statements like this makes me dubious about the whole thing.

--mamallama
 
Howard A. Lewis said:
an excellent well written thoughtful realistic review.
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With the exception that he based some things on "I feel" rather than actual facts. Like G9 resolution and lens quality compared to some other cameras(blows all the other compact cameras right back to last week??). Also ovf is nothing to write home about, sure it's better than no ovf at all but it's still poorly executed. When/if Canon ever introduces something like DP1 then I'll be interested but more megapixels and bigger zooms are not the way to go.

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If a man empties his purse into his head, no one can take it away from him. An investment of knowledge always pays the best interest.
 
mamallama said:
Too many vague generalities. Like his statement on the G9 shutter
lag: " The G9 has a fairly minimal shutter lag, meaning it fires
almost instantly". I guess that could be correct, depending on how
big the "almost" is and what's "fairly".
Too many statements like this makes me dubious about the whole thing.
--mamallama
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Here is a quote from the review:

"...and I freely admit that I don't do the geeky, yet critical scientific measurements on cameras. However, as a user I am finely attuned to which cameras work exceedingly well and which ones perhaps shouldn't have seen the light of day. Hey man, give me a camera and I'll run it through its paces as a grizzled journeyman Photographer, which is light years different from someone testing an instrument for its own sake. Both have value, and I would put forth the assertion that the scientific evaluative end is largely absent these days (play Paul Simon's 'Kodachrome' here)..."

To each his own as they say. It differs from a lot of the other reviews in that the sometimes milk-toast slant is absent and it makes a point of directing the reader to lots of other places that do have unique information, even a couple of links to here. It was obviously written to supplement the more technical sites and to offer a "humanistic" take on it, especially from a very experienced photographer. It doesn't talk down to the readers either, regardless of their level of expertise. It appears that we are equals, especially with a voice to camera manufacturers, who received a very clear wake-up call that their equipment needs to be made much better.

Have fun regardless,

Cheers,

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Pixel_Cult
Have Fun--Join the Cult--Don't be a Dolt
 
mamallama said:
Too many vague generalities. Like his statement on the G9 shutter
lag: " The G9 has a fairly minimal shutter lag, meaning it fires
almost instantly". I guess that could be correct, depending on how
big the "almost" is and what's "fairly".

Too many statements like this makes me dubious about the whole thing.

--mamallama
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I much prefer essays like this one, coming from an experienced photographer, to gear-headed reviews coming from techno geeks. At this point, as a serious photographer, I am much more interested in knowing on well a camera handles and performs for my style of shooting, rather than discussing ad nauseum if camera X should have been given a classification of Recommended or whatever.

In this regard, the above essay is quite clear on the strenghts and weaknesses of the G9 as a small camera for the serious photographers, and I agree with many of the points of view expressed.
 
paulobiz said:
mamallama said:
Too many vague generalities. Like his statement on the G9 shutter
lag: " The G9 has a fairly minimal shutter lag, meaning it fires
almost instantly". I guess that could be correct, depending on how
big the "almost" is and what's "fairly".

Too many statements like this makes me dubious about the whole thing.

--mamallama
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I much prefer essays like this one, coming from an experienced
photographer, to gear-headed reviews coming from techno geeks. At
this point, as a serious photographer, I am much more interested in
knowing on well a camera handles and performs for my style of
shooting, rather than discussing ad nauseum if camera X should have
been given a classification of Recommended or whatever.

In this regard, the above essay is quite clear on the strenghts and
weaknesses of the G9 as a small camera for the serious photographers,
and I agree with many of the points of view expressed.
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To each his own, but what he said about the G9 could have been said about a dozen other cameras on the market.

What good is that other than HE likes the G9? Goody for HIM and HIS needs in photography. HIS needs and MINE and YOURS may be different. I read reviews for specific characteristics, not whether a reviewer recommends it or like it.

--mamallama
 
mamallama said:
paulobiz said:
mamallama said:
Too many vague generalities. Like his statement on the G9 shutter
lag: " The G9 has a fairly minimal shutter lag, meaning it fires
almost instantly". I guess that could be correct, depending on how
big the "almost" is and what's "fairly".

Too many statements like this makes me dubious about the whole thing.

--mamallama
Click to expand...
I much prefer essays like this one, coming from an experienced
photographer, to gear-headed reviews coming from techno geeks. At
this point, as a serious photographer, I am much more interested in
knowing on well a camera handles and performs for my style of
shooting, rather than discussing ad nauseum if camera X should have
been given a classification of Recommended or whatever.

In this regard, the above essay is quite clear on the strenghts and
weaknesses of the G9 as a small camera for the serious photographers,
and I agree with many of the points of view expressed.
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To each his own, but what he said about the G9 could have been said
about a dozen other cameras on the market.

What good is that other than HE likes the G9? Goody for HIM and HIS
needs in photography. HIS needs and MINE and YOURS may be different.
I read reviews for specific characteristics, not whether a reviewer
recommends it or like it.

--mamallama
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mamallama said:
paulobiz said:
mamallama said:
Too many vague generalities. Like his statement on the G9 shutter
lag: " The G9 has a fairly minimal shutter lag, meaning it fires
almost instantly". I guess that could be correct, depending on how
big the "almost" is and what's "fairly".

Too many statements like this makes me dubious about the whole thing.

--mamallama
Click to expand...
I much prefer essays like this one, coming from an experienced
photographer, to gear-headed reviews coming from techno geeks. At
this point, as a serious photographer, I am much more interested in
knowing on well a camera handles and performs for my style of
shooting, rather than discussing ad nauseum if camera X should have
been given a classification of Recommended or whatever.

In this regard, the above essay is quite clear on the strenghts and
weaknesses of the G9 as a small camera for the serious photographers,
and I agree with many of the points of view expressed.
Click to expand...
To each his own, but what he said about the G9 could have been said
about a dozen other cameras on the market.

What good is that other than HE likes the G9? Goody for HIM and HIS
needs in photography. HIS needs and MINE and YOURS may be different.
I read reviews for specific characteristics, not whether a reviewer
recommends it or like it.

--mamallama
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I have enough experience as a photographer to understand, and value, other experienced photographers opinions. I value these much more than pixel counting oriented reviews, with photos of the same still life or skyline time after time. Let me ask you: what good is that Dpreview gives a camera a top classification, if there is no indication how the camera will perform in the field? Time after time we have seen many disconnects between reviews and actual camera performance.

This is the reason I value much more actual field reports from experienced people. If someone that is using the camera for the same objectives as I plan to, then that is a very good indication for me.
 
paulobiz said:
mamallama said:
paulobiz said:
mamallama said:
Too many vague generalities. Like his statement on the G9 shutter
lag: " The G9 has a fairly minimal shutter lag, meaning it fires
almost instantly". I guess that could be correct, depending on how
big the "almost" is and what's "fairly".

Too many statements like this makes me dubious about the whole thing.

--mamallama
Click to expand...
I much prefer essays like this one, coming from an experienced
photographer, to gear-headed reviews coming from techno geeks. At
this point, as a serious photographer, I am much more interested in
knowing on well a camera handles and performs for my style of
shooting, rather than discussing ad nauseum if camera X should have
been given a classification of Recommended or whatever.

In this regard, the above essay is quite clear on the strenghts and
weaknesses of the G9 as a small camera for the serious photographers,
and I agree with many of the points of view expressed.
Click to expand...
To each his own, but what he said about the G9 could have been said
about a dozen other cameras on the market.

What good is that other than HE likes the G9? Goody for HIM and HIS
needs in photography. HIS needs and MINE and YOURS may be different.
I read reviews for specific characteristics, not whether a reviewer
recommends it or like it.

--mamallama
Click to expand...
I have enough experience as a photographer to understand, and value,
other experienced photographers opinions. I value these much more
than pixel counting oriented reviews, with photos of the same still
life or skyline time after time. Let me ask you: what good is that
Dpreview gives a camera a top classification, if there is no
indication how the camera will perform in the field? Time after time
we have seen many disconnects between reviews and actual camera
performance.
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Why are you asking me that? Didn't you read where I said "I read reviews for specific characteristics, not whether a reviewer recommends it or like it".

For example, I picked on the vague wishy-washy touchy-feely evaluation of the reviewer's G9 shutter lag description. It's worthless.

I appreciate Imaging-Resources technical measurements of shutter lag, accurate to 1 milliseconds, under many conditions (full autofocus, pre-focus, manual focus, etc.). I have enough photographic experience to relate those numbers to real life shooting. But if someone tells me "it fires almost instantly", I can't relate that to anything in the field. Can you?

--mamallama
 
mamallama said:
mamallama said:
I have enough experience as a photographer to understand, and value,
other experienced photographers opinions. I value these much more
than pixel counting oriented reviews, with photos of the same still
life or skyline time after time. Let me ask you: what good is that
Dpreview gives a camera a top classification, if there is no
indication how the camera will perform in the field? Time after time
we have seen many disconnects between reviews and actual camera
performance.
Click to expand...
Why are you asking me that? Didn't you read where I said "I read
reviews for specific characteristics, not whether a reviewer
recommends it or like it".

For example, I picked on the vague wishy-washy touchy-feely
evaluation of the reviewer's G9 shutter lag description. It's
worthless.

I appreciate Imaging-Resources technical measurements of shutter lag,
accurate to 1 milliseconds, under many conditions (full autofocus,
pre-focus, manual focus, etc.). I have enough photographic experience
to relate those numbers to real life shooting. But if someone tells
me "it fires almost instantly", I can't relate that to anything in
the field. Can you?

--mamallama
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Come on, don't be so shy. Tell us what you really think... By the way, what's your favorite function of the G9? What is your least favorite?

thanks, I am genuinely curious

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Pixel_Cult
Have Fun--Join the Cult--Don't be a Dolt
 
Pixel_Cult said:
Come on, don't be so shy. Tell us what you really think... By the
way, what's your favorite function of the G9? What is your least
favorite?
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You really don't want to know what I really think. I'm openly too polite to say what I really think.

I don't own a G9 (for good reasons that I'm too polite to say as I know many here virtually worship the camera).

--mamallama
 
I found it to be a good read. I agree with Paullobiz and Pixel_cult's takes on it, except, it is not a "review".

It is an article, specifically labeled by its author as an essay. The subject is the furture of digital compacts. It is not intended by its author to be a review.

This type of piece is common on some sites (LuminousLandscape, Online Photographer) That are not review sites, rather they are photography sites, which therefor will have a broader scope.

It mentions this site as a place to get the specs and test results. This (or a reference to one or more other sites) often appears at the beginning of this type of article, since the author has no intent to cover that stuff.

Again, I enjoyed the read.

Thank you, by the way, for posting the link. It is a "general" art blog, with some interesting stuff on it.
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http://www.jaymoynihan.com
 
What I didin't like about the review is that he keeps saying just put a DSLR sensor the G9 and it will be a great camera. A DSLR sized sensor can be put into a small body, obviously the DP1 does it. But you have to give up the tele end. A large sensor with 210mm reach means a large lens. Wirh current technology you have to give up size for zoom. The market wants small cameras with big zoom, which is why the DP1 is a niche product.

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Dan
CanonA720IS
PentaxK100dSuper
 
mamallama said:
mamallama wrote:
Too many vague generalities. Like his statement on the G9 shutter
lag: " The G9 has a fairly minimal shutter lag, meaning it fires
almost instantly". I guess that could be correct, depending on how
big the "almost" is and what's "fairly".

Too many statements like this makes me dubious about the whole thing.
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I found this to be perhaps the best article about the G9 to date.

Cheers,

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Sabesh
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabesh/
 
sabesh said:
sabesh said:
mamallama wrote:
Too many vague generalities. Like his statement on the G9 shutter
lag: " The G9 has a fairly minimal shutter lag, meaning it fires
almost instantly". I guess that could be correct, depending on how
big the "almost" is and what's "fairly".

Too many statements like this makes me dubious about the whole thing.
Click to expand...
I found this to be perhaps the best article about the G9 to date.
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Different strokes for different folks.

--mamallama
 
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