Price of the "New 5D"...!!

NowherMan6 · May 20, 2008

Is my guess. Clearly neither the lens nor the body are new, but as far as I know they've been available in a kit for a relatively short while. I know my realistic interest in the 5D has only been going on for a few months as the price has been dropping and it came into my price range, but I don't think the kit has been around for THAT long.

tony field · May 20, 2008

A pro dealer, a couple of days ago, said that he expects the new 5D replacement to be available withing 40 days. The price will be about 1000-1200 (USD) higher than present - about the same or a bit lower than the original 5D prices. The camera was "supposed" to come out in mid to late spring, however focus issues kept the camera in development since some of the focus technology comes from the 1D-III and 1Ds-III.

This is a "very reliable rumor" - It most certainly will or will not be true in the final analysis. Remember that Earth is in the plural zone

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Its RKM · May 20, 2008

littleroot said:
Has been the practice with all single-digit DSLR's, no?

1D = $4500
1DM2 = $4500
1DM2N = $4500
1DM3 = $4500

1Ds = $8000
1DsM2 = $8000
1DsM3 = $8000

Except now the value of the dollar is plummeting, so expect thast rule to be broken soon, making the MkII more expensive than the introduction price of the original. :-(

AdityaDatta · May 20, 2008

Well, there is no real competition to 5D is there? If canon was to price it, I suspect they know it has to be less than D3, but not too terribly less. Assuming it is a feature packed camera, I suspect it to be priced at $3k + - $500. Anyhow, that was my personal analysis before I ordered the 5D kit last weekend.

Now if canon decided to be aggressive in this market segment, then all bets are off. e.g. they can put the 5D sensor with updated micro lenes etc + digi logic III + all the goodies into a new body and easily price it at $2k or less, if for nothing else but to steal casual D3 customers.

Eye McRizer said:
I do not wish to speculate on the specification of the "new 5D", but
probably you have experience in estimating the price of the "new 5D"
when it comes out (August 2008). Will it be the price of the 5D
three years ago (if I am not mistaken it was $3,500), or it will be
the less than that (e.g. $2500).

I have not followed the price policy of Canon with the new models,
but I guess many of you have, so probably you can estimate the price
of the "new 5D"...

The reason for asking it is quite simple: I am tempted to get the 5D
now for $1900 with the instant rebate, if the expected price is more
than $2500. If not, however, it may worth to wait for the "new 5D"....

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natureman · May 20, 2008

I have it on good authority that the camera will cost exactly 43 gazillion dollars and 29 cents, but will be worth every cent. In fact, the camera will be so good that it will go out and take award winning pictures for you and you can stay home and watch TV.

When are these stupid, useless, guessing games going to stop?

Eye McRizer said:
I do not wish to speculate on the specification of the "new 5D", but
probably you have experience in estimating the price of the "new 5D"
when it comes out (August 2008). Will it be the price of the 5D
three years ago (if I am not mistaken it was $3,500), or it will be
the less than that (e.g. $2500).

I have not followed the price policy of Canon with the new models,
but I guess many of you have, so probably you can estimate the price
of the "new 5D"...

The reason for asking it is quite simple: I am tempted to get the 5D
now for $1900 with the instant rebate, if the expected price is more
than $2500. If not, however, it may worth to wait for the "new 5D"....

natureman · May 20, 2008

Yeah, the same people who believe in horoscopes and tarot cards.

Eye McRizer said:
With all due respect, if it does not make sense to you, it may make
sense to other people...

natureman · May 20, 2008

No matter how you put it, it's still speculation. In fact, I don't think it even deserves the word speculation, since speculation would imply some sort of historical, dependable evidence. It's just a GUESS with no basis in fact whatsoever.

Only Canon knows IF they will ever make an updated 5D and only Canon knows what they would charge for it.

Eye McRizer said:
You have absolutely misunderstood me, sorry if I was not clear... I
am not asking anybody to speculate - that would not make any sense.
If you read my original question you will see that I was asking those
people, who have experience with Canon's pricing policy over the
years to tell me what happend... Probably those people who followed
Canon's SLR development for years (unfortunatley I was not) can
identify a pattern that could be used for forecasting... Forecasting,
and not speculation....

natureman · May 20, 2008

Post a link to a credible site that has that "quote" from canon. Better yet, see if you can find that "quote' on the Canon website or in any publication put out by Canon. Let's see it.

Anastigmat said:
polansky said:

Talking about this doesn't make any sense at all!
Lets wait and see what Canon will bring on the market.
That is to say if they will replace the 5D.

Click to expand...

It is a done deal. Canon has said publicly that

1. There will be a 5D replacement

2. It will have a more durable shutter

3. It will have more pixels.

4. it will be the same price as the old model.

The first two is pretty easy. It is the last 2 that is more difficult
to decipher. Will it be 14mp or 16mp or even 21mp as some was asking.

Will it be $2,200, the price before the latest rebate, or will it be
$3,300, the price when the old model was introduced.

My guess is that it will be 14mp and $2,200. $2,500 max.

Anastigmat · May 20, 2008

natureman said:
Post a link to a credible site that has that "quote" from canon.
Better yet, see if you can find that "quote' on the Canon website or
in any publication put out by Canon. Let's see it.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1032&thread=26210120

http://china.kyodo.co.jp/modules/fsStory/index.php?sel_lang=tchinese&storyid=51881

The first link goes to a DPReview thread, which in turn points to a Chinese web site, in the second link, in which the Canon and Nikon executives were interviewed.

Here is a Babel Fish translation of the relevant passage:

"We will promote the powerful product. The intermediate camera “EOS 5D” will have enhanced durable and picture element successor type going on the market. We will promote a better product in the same level price."

I don't blame you for missing this important interview, because it happened five months ago. People who don't keep track of the news about the new 5D are often unaware that the new 5D has been an open secret for the past 5 months.

natureman said:
Anastigmat said:

polansky said:

Talking about this doesn't make any sense at all!
Lets wait and see what Canon will bring on the market.
That is to say if they will replace the 5D.

Click to expand...

It is a done deal. Canon has said publicly that

1. There will be a 5D replacement

2. It will have a more durable shutter

3. It will have more pixels.

4. it will be the same price as the old model.

The first two is pretty easy. It is the last 2 that is more difficult
to decipher. Will it be 14mp or 16mp or even 21mp as some was asking.

Will it be $2,200, the price before the latest rebate, or will it be
$3,300, the price when the old model was introduced.

My guess is that it will be 14mp and $2,200. $2,500 max.

Click to expand...

Anastigmat · May 20, 2008

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=28002716

You are apparently in the same camp as "Natureman." Both of you are unaware of the interview of the Canon executive in which he hinted that the new 5D will have an improved sensor, improved durability and be sold at the same price level. See link above, in which I cited the links. Now it is time for some people to eat crow while I do my victory dance. LOL.

Badbatz said:
Nonsense. Quote Canon (Chuck Westfall, right?), please, to support
your assertions (quote only direct Canon sources, please, I'm not
interested in rumors...)

IMO Chuck's statements are very guarded and conditional with NO
promisses whatsoever. Canon always works on "something" so he didn't
say anything new... Yeah, one can assume that if there is a need
there is a product but that's a BIG assumption, don'tyathink?

Rocco Galatioto · May 20, 2008

This type of post should come with the warning to go get an air sickness bag.
Give me a break.
No one knows, and those who know will not say anything.
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Badbatz · May 20, 2008

Oh please, not that cr@p again. If you look you'll find many references here (and in many different places...) to the same interview with a much better translation from Japanese. Geez, educate yourself before rehasing the same nonsense over and over again. Yeah, a guy from Canon said that they are working on something...

Ken Phillips · May 20, 2008

You 5D haters (you must hate it, you wanna replace it) should just STFU until a new camera is released. Adding the 5D to this forum was a huge mistake.
KP
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natureman · May 21, 2008

Anastigmat said:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1032&message=28002716

You are apparently in the same camp as "Natureman." Both of you are
unaware of the interview of the Canon executive in which he hinted
that the new 5D will have an improved sensor, improved durability and
be sold at the same price level. See link above, in which I cited
the links. Now it is time for some people to eat crow while I do my
victory dance. LOL.

Even IF there was actually an interview where a so-called "Canon executive" mentioned a new 5D, there was no mention of actual specs or price or when it would be available or anything else concrete.

Besides, IF Canon were to update the 5D, of course it will be "improved". DUH!

Dance on that.

I'm wondering something. Do any of you gearheads ever take any pictures or do you just sleep with your cameras?

Anastigmat said:
Badbatz said:

Nonsense. Quote Canon (Chuck Westfall, right?), please, to support
your assertions (quote only direct Canon sources, please, I'm not
interested in rumors...)

IMO Chuck's statements are very guarded and conditional with NO
promisses whatsoever. Canon always works on "something" so he didn't
say anything new... Yeah, one can assume that if there is a need
there is a product but that's a BIG assumption, don'tyathink?

Click to expand...

andrew1306 · May 21, 2008

Here's the way I would estimate it (based on CHF, sorry, but about 1:1):

40D - 1300
1DIII - 4600
D300 - 2100
D3 - 5800

Since we expect a new 5D would be between a 40D and 1DIII (anyone want to argue that one?), and likely will be priced above the nikon D300 (based on the nikon-canon staggered, non-competing models law - someone should look into non-competition regulations about that). The clear anyswer is the new 5D will be 2100-4600Fr (that doesn't really help, does it? Then split the difference - 3300, street price after settling)

And now for more of the same, I predict the following prices completely at random for fun:
50D - $1400
60D - $1350
70D - $1300
1DIV - $4500
1DV - $4500
1DXXX (only for 'art' photogs, includes model and lubricant) - $15,000

Now, we shouldnt have to speculate for at least a few more seasons

andrew1306 · May 21, 2008

natureman said:
I'm wondering something. Do any of you gearheads ever take any
pictures

Not many that I'm proud of...

natureman said:
or do you just sleep with your cameras?

Not so proud of that either

natureman · May 21, 2008

andrew1306 said:
Here's the way I would estimate it (based on CHF, sorry, but about 1:1):

40D - 1300
1DIII - 4600
D300 - 2100
D3 - 5800

Since we expect a new 5D would be between a 40D and 1DIII (anyone
want to argue that one?), and likely will be priced above the nikon
D300 (based on the nikon-canon staggered, non-competing models law -
someone should look into non-competition regulations about that). The
clear anyswer is the new 5D will be 2100-4600Fr (that doesn't really
help, does it? Then split the difference - 3300, street price after
settling)

And now for more of the same, I predict the following prices
completely at random for fun:
50D - $1400
60D - $1350
70D - $1300
1DIV - $4500
1DV - $4500
1DXXX (only for 'art' photogs, includes model and lubricant) - $15,000

Now, we shouldnt have to speculate for at least a few more seasons

Hey, wait a minute. A clairvoyant parrot told me that the 70D will cost $1300.99. You're off by 99 cents. All the others are right on the button, except the new 5D.

Ludovic Monchat · May 21, 2008

NOBODY knows nothing about a new model. NOBODY knows if the affordable FF body experience will be carried out as it was 3 years ago because now the competition is high and will be higher and higher with Nikon and Sony among other brands.

Don't try and imagine a new price, you don't even know how and when a sequel will be unveiled. Maybe it will be a series, maybe a new model even cheaper, stop speculating. You have basically 3 months for having fun with your current camera.

My only advice would be to buy the 5D regardless the forthcoming of "something" new probably in September at Photokina because this camera rocks now even more because of his discounted price. You won't be disappointed.

Somebody wrote, "life is short...." so go out and shoot, whatever brand you like and HAVE FUN !! Use your brain for creating something rather than speculating on nothing ;0)

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bluefox9er · May 21, 2008

even more tiring than these 'roumours' are the 5d owners who need soooo much reassurance that their 5ds are the greatest camera ever made that even the remotest suggestion that the 5d might be replaced or improved on makes them psychotic, and anyone who dosn't buy a 5d NOW as opposed to wait is deemed to be mentally incapable.

This trait is really very apparent amongst 5d owners in any of the '5d mk II ' roumour threads.

The 5d is a great camera...get over it but don't tell people to buy it NOW when waitng for the newer version affords a choice for a prespective first time FF buyer.

IF the 'new' 5d mkII is too expensive or dosn't have features that the buyer needs then they will buy a 5d....

but don't live in cloud cuckoo land if you think that your beloved 5d is the ultimate in FF goodness and will never be improved on....because the 5d is a great camera..accept that, but also accept that products also evolve.
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Fevida · May 21, 2008

A few weeks ago I was at a Belgium dealer to buy a lens and I ask the guy about the new 5D. He told me he was told by a Canon-guy there will be not one but two new body's. One a bit cheaper then the current 5D, and one more expensive to close the gap between de cheaper model and the 1D. According to his info both will be full-frame.

I know, it's a rumour, nothing confirmed, but interesting nonetheless.

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