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Trouble free … and love'n it!

Let's see how many folks reply like this, instead of the few with battery problems?

Maybe you're looking for an excuse to to purchase the finest camera in it's class:)

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PS Toyota has a recal on 400,00 trucks or something like that, because the paint or undercoating is bad?

Shiit happens … it sucks, but it does.
 
Arretose you sound sooo bitter and twisted all out of shape over this
Arretose said:
ha...yeah right... good one Shutterbugin.... yeah just sit around 6
weeks for "nikon" to find the "problem" and try to "fix" it, only to
have it returned saying that they could not replicate the problem, so
they clean it, and you "hopefully" don't have it "break down" on you
again... All this because there are nay-sayers like you out there
that think that its not a big deal that there are people on this
forum that complain about issues with their D300. I can only hope
that Nikon doesn't have your same attitude towards this apparent
escalating D300/D3 defect.
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Arretose said:
DStan said:
I'd say that "dead battery syndrome" is an issue for a small
percentage of owners and is easily fixed on your own by simply
cleaning the contacts. I had this on a D80, I wiped the contacts
clean with white printer paper, then with some 91% Isopropyl alcohol
and never had the problem again. I cleaned my D300 contacts on the
first day and never had the problem.
I wouldn't worry about this, the D300 is a dream camera. You wouldn't
want to miss out on the dream.
--
Stan ;o()
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No... lets not miss out on the D300 dream... but hey go ahead and
miss out on the "money shot" because you have the low battery warning
on your D300 LCD. The point is, if people found out that a "small
percentage" of any commodity sold, didn't work, they will think twice
before putting their money down, especially when you are talking
hundreds of dollars. Having to come up with a band aid fix on a brand
new camera is unreasonable and will only temporarily fix the problem-
reports of Nikon swapping out circuit boards and people who used
DeOxit but the problem still resurfaced is evidence of this.
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The harsh reality is that every manufactured product has a certain percentage of failures and defects. Will you not buy a car because one day you will need to repair it? You can rest assured that day will occur. I don't remember reading about many if any at all reoccurrences of this problem after a proper cleaning. Will you not buy a DSLR because there's a very good chance that you will have to clean or get your sensor cleaned? This is more likely to happen than the contact issue. Do you think it is at all possible for 100% of the cameras made to be perfect? And yes I can understand why some people feel upset, especially if they get the problem and can't resolve it on their own. So yes a "small percentage" of this commodity may not work. The same is true for all DSLR's, so make your own decisions.
--
Stan ;o()



In the spirit of Occam’s Razor one should embrace the less complicated formulation or simply put, less is more.
 
jonpaul said:
I was just about to place a big-buck order for a Nikon D300 and
lenses but was blown away by the number of post that I read of people
having problems with the "dead battery syndrome;" now I'll wait. To
me, the most important thing that a camera must be is reliable. Is
Nikon listening? What corrective measures are being taken?
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I am beginning to worry myself.

I never heard about this problem on other forums like D80/D70/D60/D50/D40 forum.

Why those "cheaper" cameras have more durability and reliability over D300 ?

Why?
 
steves7k said:
Arretose you sound sooo bitter and twisted all out of shape over this
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Bitter and twisted- a strong play on words from you part. Try hesitant and skeptical. I did go through 4 D300 bodies so I do have a litle history with Nikon.
 
DStan said:
The harsh reality is that every manufactured product has a certain
percentage of failures and defects. Will you not buy a car because
one day you will need to repair it? You can rest assured that day
will occur. I don't remember reading about many if any at all
reoccurrences of this problem after a proper cleaning. Will you not
buy a DSLR because there's a very good chance that you will have to
clean or get your sensor cleaned? This is more likely to happen than
the contact issue. Do you think it is at all possible for 100% of the
cameras made to be perfect? And yes I can understand why some people
feel upset, especially if they get the problem and can't resolve it
on their own. So yes a "small percentage" of this commodity may not
work. The same is true for all DSLR's, so make your own decisions.
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NO, I will not buy a car if I know that within the first few thousand miles I am going to have to be brining it in. Yes, some day something will go wrong with your camera, but 4 cameras within the first week, I mean, its not like we are talking about 1 case. Search the threads my friend, you will find plenty of people that clean and do not resolve their DBS. Cleaning your sensor/camera is not a defect, a lens not communicating with the body or a faulty error message is a defect. If you truly do understand why some people feel upset, then maybe you could post possible solutions.
 
I stand by my thesis that forums are a biased sample that give no valid indication of the frequency of a given problem nor ones chances of experiencing it oneself.

Does this make the problem any less real for those who do have it? Of course not! Should Nikon fix the problem and deal with it when it does occur? Of course!

Should the experiences noted here influence a potential buyer, imho, absolutely NOT!

Thanks for the comment, though.
 
I'd be greatly surprised if that were true. I doubt any major product's quality control, apart from R&D, is that great--it's simply too expensive.

However, it is not unusual that two different products from two different manufactures do NOT have identical problems, but some problems--occasionally--nevertheless. Note auto recalls as an example.

All the best.
 
If I were a Pro I would hold off a bit...
Boris
--
Stubborn and ardent clinging to one's opinion is the best
proof of stupidity.
Michel de Montaigne

http://public.fotki.com/borysd/
 
For the sole reason that I at first heartily recommended the D300 and of the 7 people I told to buy and who did....three had to get replacements and one have up and went back to canon.

I think one needs all side of the story in order to formulate an opinion on whether or not to purchase.

Personally, even with a 7 month major show going on and lots of folks asking what I recommend, I absolutely will not recommend a D300 at this point in time...even though I'm shooting two brand new ones.

I'd either steer them (depending upon their requirements) to a D2X / Xs or a Canon model.
--
Jim Fenton
My Wildlife Images at:
http://www.pbase.com/soonipi1957
 
The D70 suffered a 'sudden death' syndrome. It even got a name: BGLOD = blicking green light of death. Seemed to be a lose connector.

This was worse then the dead battery syndrome because this seems to be an issue that you solve yourself by cleaning the contacts.

Got the D300 from the first batch in NL and never had any problem. It is a joy to use. My D70 also never suffered BGLOD.

But which brand is problem free. My father-in-law has a C 400D. But he has a lot of AF problems. Tested his camera a few times and after 2 repairs it seems pretty OK, but he is not 100% happy.

Just buy the D300 and be happy...
 
I had the issue with both my D300 bodies. Especially wit hthe 70-200/2.8 VR and the Sigma 120-300/2.8. Actually, it was even worse with the D200.

Careful cleaning of the mount and contacts both on lens and bodies + tight holding of the 70-200/2.8 when taking pictures (pretty loose on the body) and no more problems...

I mainly shoot sports and it is a wonderful camera for the job !

Best regards,

Derek
 
I have had my D80 for a year and a half and it too is experiencing batt issues (5 or 6 times) which has been a regular topic in their forum. Cleaning the contacts and secutiry of the lens will be my focus next time. I'm in this group because I intend to upgrade to the D300 and am looking for feedback. A bug like this is distressing but is not totally unexpected. If Nikon recognizes it and responds appropriately this still looks like a good choice. I've have enjoyed the D80 a great deal and the D300 will no doubt give me the same challenge/satisfaction.
--
looking up
 
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