Disappointed

Frederic Villemin said:

I'm sure that everything i will say has already been discussed in
the forum but i'm sorry i don't have enough time to read all the
messages

I bought a Dimage5 yesterday.. i had read many reviews about it,
eating batteries faster than i eat pizzas and having a bad AF.. I
thought it wouldn't be a problem and i was still happy to buy it

About the batteries, the 4 AA supplied lasted 10 minutes..but i
think that's normal The rechargeable batteries i bought are
still alive after 30 minutes of use, so that's not too bad.. the
problem is just you aren't warned before the camera goes down.. it
could have been better to be able to take one or two photos before
it stops.. but well i don't really care because i can buy another
of batteries..

The point i really don't like is the AF.. it's really really bad..
i have a 35mm EOS 500 which has a really simple AF which works way
better than this one.. and even if it doesn't work well i can do it
manually easily.. With the dimage5 and its EVF it's really hard to
find the focus manually.. you have to trust the AF and it's sad to
see it isn't able to find the focus on really simple shots..

I tried to use the spot AF and it seems to work better than the
other way but it's too bad to have such a good camera doing such a
bad job (my old Kodak DC240 was a king in AF compared to this one)

It's my second day with this camera, maybe i'll tell you
everything's fine in 5 days because i would be used to it but at
the moment, i'm quite disappointed..

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Dman said:

Frederic Villemin said:

I'm sure that everything i will say has already been discussed in
the forum but i'm sorry i don't have enough time to read all the
messages

I bought a Dimage5 yesterday.. i had read many reviews about it,
eating batteries faster than i eat pizzas and having a bad AF.. I
thought it wouldn't be a problem and i was still happy to buy it

About the batteries, the 4 AA supplied lasted 10 minutes..but i
think that's normal The rechargeable batteries i bought are
still alive after 30 minutes of use, so that's not too bad.. the
problem is just you aren't warned before the camera goes down.. it
could have been better to be able to take one or two photos before
it stops.. but well i don't really care because i can buy another
of batteries..

The point i really don't like is the AF.. it's really really bad..
i have a 35mm EOS 500 which has a really simple AF which works way
better than this one.. and even if it doesn't work well i can do it
manually easily.. With the dimage5 and its EVF it's really hard to
find the focus manually.. you have to trust the AF and it's sad to
see it isn't able to find the focus on really simple shots..

I tried to use the spot AF and it seems to work better than the
other way but it's too bad to have such a good camera doing such a
bad job (my old Kodak DC240 was a king in AF compared to this one)

It's my second day with this camera, maybe i'll tell you
everything's fine in 5 days because i would be used to it but at
the moment, i'm quite disappointed..

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What a funny/cute human you are. Going for something that dated so
long while the D7i is in the market? Furthermore, there are better
camera than the D5 and i suppose you didn't read those reviews
here? It is ur fault for not doing your homework, can't blame
other. All the best on ur D5

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Dman said:

What a funny/cute human you are. Going for something that dated so
long while the D7i is in the market? Furthermore, there are better
camera than the D5 and i suppose you didn't read those reviews
here? It is ur fault for not doing your homework, can't blame
other. All the best on ur D5

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Frederic Villemin said:

Frederic Villemin said:

What a funny/cute human you are. Going for something that dated so
long while the D7i is in the market? Furthermore, there are better
camera than the D5 and i suppose you didn't read those reviews
here? It is ur fault for not doing your homework, can't blame
other. All the best on ur D5

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You know what ? i don't have enough money to buy the dimage7i
and i don't think i would be really happier to spend twice the
money just to get a good AF and a better quality i'm not really
looking for..

I just said i was expecting a better AF from a 800 EU camera..

And even if the dimage 5 is quite old, it still has good reviews
everywhere.. that's why i'm disappointed.. i was waiting for better
performances..

btw you said there were better cameras than the D5 (i think you
were talking about same prices), can you tell me more ? i may
return it to the shop and change if i really find something better

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Dman said:

Frederic Villemin wrote:

Sorry dude

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Dman said:

i am not so good on digital camera but i think that G2
from Canon might please you since you on a budget. What about 995
from Nikon or CP 2500? CP 2500 is only a 2 MP but from the review,
it seem to be better than D5

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Andrew Cruickshank said:

Dman said:

Frederic Villemin wrote:

Sorry dude

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What is it about people who post wit the word 'dude'?

Andrew Cruickshank said:

i am not so good on digital camera but i think that G2
from Canon might please you since you on a budget. What about 995
from Nikon or CP 2500? CP 2500 is only a 2 MP but from the review,
it seem to be better than D5

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CP2500 seems better than a D5 .......... !!!!

Well it's not bad we cam by the look of things -- but it's a bit
like comparing an APS P&S with a 35mm AF SLR in terms of the
target market.

Not a particularly valid comparison.

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Andrew.

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Frederic Villemin said:

I'm sure that everything i will say has already been discussed in
the forum but i'm sorry i don't have enough time to read all the
messages

I bought a Dimage5 yesterday.. i had read many reviews about it,
eating batteries faster than i eat pizzas and having a bad AF.. I
thought it wouldn't be a problem and i was still happy to buy it

About the batteries, the 4 AA supplied lasted 10 minutes..but i
think that's normal The rechargeable batteries i bought are
still alive after 30 minutes of use, so that's not too bad.. the
problem is just you aren't warned before the camera goes down.. it
could have been better to be able to take one or two photos before
it stops.. but well i don't really care because i can buy another
of batteries..

The point i really don't like is the AF.. it's really really bad..
i have a 35mm EOS 500 which has a really simple AF which works way
better than this one.. and even if it doesn't work well i can do it
manually easily.. With the dimage5 and its EVF it's really hard to
find the focus manually.. you have to trust the AF and it's sad to
see it isn't able to find the focus on really simple shots..

I tried to use the spot AF and it seems to work better than the
other way but it's too bad to have such a good camera doing such a
bad job (my old Kodak DC240 was a king in AF compared to this one)

It's my second day with this camera, maybe i'll tell you
everything's fine in 5 days because i would be used to it but at
the moment, i'm quite disappointed..

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jerry rosen said:

Jerry
Portland, Oregon

Andrew Cruickshank said:

Dman said:

Frederic Villemin wrote:

Sorry dude

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What is it about people who post wit the word 'dude'?

Jerry Rosen said:

i am not so good on digital camera but i think that G2
from Canon might please you since you on a budget. What about 995
from Nikon or CP 2500? CP 2500 is only a 2 MP but from the review,
it seem to be better than D5

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CP2500 seems better than a D5 .......... !!!!

Well it's not bad we cam by the look of things -- but it's a bit
like comparing an APS P&S with a 35mm AF SLR in terms of the
target market.

Not a particularly valid comparison.

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Jerry , sometimes after the new problem, we end up keeping it.This point can be argued for a long time .I tried around ten digitals and bought two.Many people want better quality, many don't but I feel for the camera makers and sellers also.Just don't push the guilt thing , cause we are still in the early stages of this technology.When you have foveron technology and people return their cameras then thats another issue.Or if someone buys a tv to watch the super bowl and returns it the next day , thats a different issue.Too many quirky things still going on.To repackage a camera should not be more then ten or fifteen bucks and I would gladly pay it to try a camera out.

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jimbrobb said:

I to have a D5 and I'm also not that impressed with the AF. Action
shots are not really possible.

Hope you are getting some good shots.

Jim

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jerry rosen said:

I've got a D 5 qnd I see nothing wrong with it. It takes good
pictures. I think that you will find others who feel the same way.
I have yet to see any camera on these forums that does not have
something wrong with it. I think that sometimes it's the user and
not the camera at all. They then return the camera and buy another
only to find new problems, and the cycle goes on and on and on.

Jerry
Portland, Oregon

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Steven Harlow said:

jimbrobb said:

I to have a D5 and I'm also not that impressed with the AF. Action
shots are not really possible.

Hope you are getting some good shots.

Jim

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Hmm,
I guess I better quit taking action shots with my D5 since "Action
shots ARE NOT really POSSIBLE."
Naaa, I think I will follow the route of the bumble bee, since it
is a scientific engineering impossibility for it to fly, but nobody
told the bee so it just goes ahead and flies anyway.
Good day, think I'll go out an take some action shots with my D5.

Steven (Minnesota)

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Jean Ricket said:

We had a Kodak 2.1 MP digital camera and my son still has a Kodak 1
MP and both cameras seemed reasonably quick on the auto focus.
Perhaps there is a trade-off--the more pixels the camera has to
process, the more time it takes. - JR

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Frederic Villemin said:

I'm sure that everything i will say has already been discussed in
the forum but i'm sorry i don't have enough time to read all the
messages

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Frederic Villemin said:

It's my second day with this camera, maybe i'll tell you
everything's fine in 5 days because i would be used to it but at
the moment, i'm quite disappointed..

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• Ivan

Steven Harlow said:

jerry rosen said:

I've got a D 5 qnd I see nothing wrong with it. It takes good
pictures. I think that you will find others who feel the same way.
I have yet to see any camera on these forums that does not have
something wrong with it. I think that sometimes it's the user and
not the camera at all. They then return the camera and buy another
only to find new problems, and the cycle goes on and on and on.

Jerry
Portland, Oregon

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Jerry,
WELL SAID!!!

Steven (Minnesota)

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thabear said:

Try out some other cameras in the shop and see which one has the AF
you desire. You will probably find it.

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Ivan Good said:

Frederic Villemin said:

I'm sure that everything i will say has already been discussed in
the forum but i'm sorry i don't have enough time to read all the
messages

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Ivan Good said:

It's my second day with this camera, maybe i'll tell you
everything's fine in 5 days because i would be used to it but at
the moment, i'm quite disappointed..

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Some friendly advice...

First off, you NEED to TAKE the TIME to go thru this forum and read
some past posts, you'll find lots of info and lots of help by
TAKING this time

Second, you've admittedly ONLY had your D5 for a couple days, as
has been stated in many threads in this forum, the D7/D5 is NOT a
simple point and shoot camera, and takes a little time to learn to
get good pictures.

Third, if you haven't already, take the time to sit down and go
thru the manual WITH THE CAMERA. Go over all the features and
buttons, etc. in the manual and the camera. Just getting to know
the D5 is half the battle (and half the fun).

Forth, get at least 2 (x4) sets of NiMH batteries. And 4 (x4) sets
if you can afford it. The D7/D5 does require a lot of power (not
that this is a bad thing) but its the way the camera is and as an
owner you simply have to deal with it the best you can

Fifth, the EVF. Yes at first it seems to be poor. Yes at first it
doesn't seem to be anywhere as good as an optical view finder on a
35mm camera. But, once you get used to the EVF (and stop fighting
it) you'll find its not all that bad. With some practice you'll
find you CAN actually manually focus with it (although NOT in the
same way as you did with a 35mm optical VF) and you'll find the
exposure (ie: how bright or how dark) things look in the EVF is
exactly what the final picture will look like.

Sixth, the auto focus. Again yes at first it seems to be poor, and
yes at first it seems nowhere near as good as the AF on your 35mm
camera (and this is true its NOT THAT GOOD), but thats not to say
it doesn't work. And like the EVF, once you STOP FIGHTING the auto
focus, you'll find its not all that bad.

(There have been reports where the AF on D5's fails to focus AT
ALL, and the camera needs to be restarted to get it to work for a
bit before it fails AGAIN completely) if you HAVE this problem send
it to Minolta for warranty repair, if not, forget about this
particular problem (it doesn't concern you).

2 tips for using the auto focus on a D5

1) ALWAYS USE FRESH BATTERIES.
(check out the Internet for the use and care of NiMH batteries)

I've noticed with my own D5, if the batteries are low the AF has a
harder time of it. If your AF seems slow or seems to have a hard
time locking on the subject, REPLACE the batteries, even if you
haven't gotten the low battery warning, replace them ANYWAY!

2) the D5 (and the D7) have a LONG ZOOM lens, you HAVE TO HOLD it
VERY STILL!! This takes some practice (for some LOT OF PRACTICE),
and to start you SHOULD use a fairly fast shutter speed (1/500 or
above), because ANY LITTLE movement WILL give you fuzzy pictures!

My advice, give yourself a couple months to get to know your D5, I
think, you'll be MUCH HAPPIER after you get used to how the D5
functions

AND stop litening to those who poo poo the D5

• Ivan

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Andrew Cruickshank said:

thabear said:

Try out some other cameras in the shop and see which one has the AF
you desire. You will probably find it.

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But it's not necessarily a solution when it turns out that it's a
Nikon D1x
and you're not inclined to take out a second mortgage to go with it.

Ah well ....

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Andrew.

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Techguy999 said:

Ivan --

I really liked your reply especially bullet #3 about reading the
manual WITH the camera in hand. How can one expect to learn --
really learn -- the functions without first sitting down and
experimenting with them?

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• Ivan

Ivan Good said:

Techguy999 said:

Ivan --

I really liked your reply especially bullet #3 about reading the
manual WITH the camera in hand. How can one expect to learn --
really learn -- the functions without first sitting down and
experimenting with them?

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Thanks, I've spent a lot of time with my D5 (my 2nd digtal camera)
and think I'm getting the hang of it

You'd be surprised how many people think ALL they should have to do
is pay $1000.00 and point and shoot a digital camera (without
reading the manual of course) AND instantly it'll make them a world
renowned National Geographic type photographer over night.

And if it DOESN'T, then why there MUST be something WRONG with the
camera, or at LEAST a conspiracy from the manufacture to rip them
off....

Sad but true....

• Ivan

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